🏈 "If it continues like this, he'd be the first player to be favored for the Heisman who has never started a game." - Todd McShay

[18Champs]

 

[Tidestalker]

Crazy. Vegas gets all the dirt!

 

[rick4bama]

:rtrsign:

 

[TUSKtimes]

I love it that it's the Vegas group rather than ESPN's motley crew spewing the praise. This is going to be such a fun team to watch.

 

[#80]

He will win at least one there is no question in my mind.

 

[sean]

i hope fans aren't doing the whole pedestal thing, with Tua.

too many times, a new player has a great showing in one game, and they think he's the next heisman winner. but one half, of one game, doesn't make a heisman season. also, there have been times where fans, and even the media, have put a player above all others just after one game.

now, if he can be consistent with the type of play he showed in the second half of the last game, then i he should definitely be in the picture. also, i think he's more of a pure passer than Jalen is. Jalen is a decent passer, but i think Tua is just better at it.

 

[TerryP]

too many times, a new player has a great showing in one game, and they think he's the next heisman winner. but one half, of one game, doesn't make a heisman season. also, there have been times where fans, and even the media, have put a player above all others just after one game.

I've seen more than a few make a comparison of Jeremy Johnson to Tua. A difference--big one--is it was Gus pushing the idea of Johnson as a Heisman candidate in the spring and summer. Here it's been a case where the talk started directly after the game by those who cover the game.

And to be fair, it's not just one half of one game. Sure, that's the highlight reel but we've seen enough in mop-up duty to where we've learned he's got Heisman potential.

 

[pop2]

Did you not watch the Vandy game? Sure they were blowouts but watch a few of the passes.

 

[kbama15]

Putting too much on this kid!

 

[Bama Guy]

'May' be putting too much on Tua, but this kid stepped into the biggest game of the season and didn't blink an eye, even after throwing a pick. My only concern is that he seems like a gunslinger and CNS doesn't tolerate turnovers. The pressure to protect the ball may change his playing style for the worse. I think this happened to Jalen to some extent. Jalen may have never been a great passer, but he went backwards probably due to the pressure not to turn the ball over. RTR

 

[T&B]

Putting too much on this kid!

Not this one - this one can handle anything. He was baptized in fire. This one has the juice.

He sees the entire field. He is going to make opposing D's defend the entire field, and with the athletes Bama runs out there at the skill positions it's simply not possible to defend the entire field. Its going to be glorious watching him dissect defenses. Its going to be a breath of fresh air to finally see what an elite OL, and an elite RB group can do when there aren't 8-9 men in the box.

Gonna get nasty. I. Can't. Wait.

 

[JoshB]

too many times, a new player has a great showing in one game, and they think he's the next heisman winner. but one half, of one game, doesn't make a heisman season. also, there have been times where fans, and even the media, have put a player above all others just after one game.

I've seen more than a few make a comparison of Jeremy Johnson to Tua. A difference--big one--is it was Gus pushing the idea of Johnson as a Heisman candidate in the spring and summer. Here it's been a case where the talk started directly after the game by those who cover the game.

And to be fair, it's not just one half of one game. Sure, that's the highlight reel but we've seen enough in mop-up duty to where we've learned he's got Heisman potential.

Throwing touchdown passes against Vanderbilt's walk ons is "Heisman potential?"

 

[pop2]

Did you not read the whole thing? Did you not see him under dire pressure pick up Smith and throw within a milli-second to the back of the end zone? Did you see the deep pass to the right sideline? Didn't matter who it was....those were special throws. If he had been on the field by himself they were special. Feel better for trying to speak down to someone?

 

[TerryP]

Throwing touchdown passes against Vanderbilt's walk ons is "Heisman potential?"

Don't make a mountain out of a molehill by my referencing other games. It's those very games that the potential we are talking about has been demonstrated. I didn't put him in the Heisman race. His play has.

It is what it is.

 

[#80]

If anyone can handle the hype it's Tua he is a very special player with special talent as well.

 

[JoshB]

Throwing touchdown passes against Vanderbilt's walk ons is "Heisman potential?"

Don't make a mountain out of a molehill by my referencing other games. It's those very games that the potential we are talking about has been demonstrated. I didn't put him in the Heisman race. His play has.

It is what it is.

No it hasn't, hype has put him in a nonexistent race that hasn't even started.

it's comments like this that are making the hype surrounding him impossible to live up to. You commented that it wasn't just one half of one game that is creating this hype when it 100% clearly is. No one, other than hardcore Alabama fans, knew who Tua was before that game. Why? Because no one had ever seen him before, because he rarely saw action in games that weren't 40 point blowouts.

The minute he throws a pick in a big moment, takes a dumb sack (that isn't followed up by a game winner) these same fans are going to be crapping all over him. And god forbid if he losses a game.

 

[TerryP]

@BamaBoyJosh, They were talking about how good he was in January of '17. If not sooner. There he's in an article referencing the Heisman.

Here's how Alabama's newest blue chipper is bucking the trend of the modern QB

We're past the hype. We saw it wasn't hype, the kid has some special talents. We saw it wasn't hype with the games he was playing in before Bama was facing UGA.

Throwing touchdown passes against Vanderbilt's walk ons is "Heisman potential?"

So, I read this and say...yeah. With what we have today an AJ type season would put him in NY. 30 to 5-65% numbers.

 

[TUSKtimes]

The minute he throws a pick in a big moment, takes a dumb sack (that isn't followed up by a game winner) these same fans are going to be crapping all over him. And god forbid if he losses a game.

Didn't happen when Bama fans saw the pick six vs Tennessee. Didn't happen with the fans and most importantly didn't happen with Nick Saban. If Saban isn't panicking there's not much to be too concerned with. Other than more dire predictions from you.

Alabama was ranked 91st in passing offense last year. If you want to make a gentlemen's bet that's where we finish this year with Tua, I'm in.

 

[SnakeFan]

I think Trent Dilfer started the Tua Hiesman hype at his Elite camp a couple years ago

 

[JoshB]

The minute he throws a pick in a big moment, takes a dumb sack (that isn't followed up by a game winner) these same fans are going to be crapping all over him. And god forbid if he losses a game.

Didn't happen when Bama fans saw the pick six vs Tennessee. Didn't happen with the fans and most importantly didn't happen with Nick Saban. If Saban isn't panicking there's not much to be too concerned with. Other than more dire predictions from you.

Alabama was ranked 91st in passing offense last year. If you want to make a gentlemen's bet that's where we finish this year with Tua, I'm in.

So, we're comparing a pick six from a backup QB in a game that is already a blowout to throwing a pick in a big moment? Good lord...

And where would that bet come from? Why do you guys feel the need to constantly put words in my mouth? Where have I ever said Tua wouldn't do well? You're trying to turn my "wait and see approach" into me criticizing or being down on Tua.