⛳ "I'd rather watch a JV spring football game than The Masters." -- I believe this is one of our own with this freezing cold take.

[18Champs]

 

[TerryP]

Let's see ... whom shall I tag here?

 

[UAgrad93]

Let's see ... whom shall I tag here?

 

[TUSKtimes]

Did anyone ask him if that was before or after Tiger won his 5th jacket?

 

[planomateo]

Lol...

 

[bamachine]

I will admit that I never watch golf on TV, although I will watch highlights. I am the same with all sports except football. I love to play golf but boring to watch, imo. I also hate watching baseball on the tube but enjoy it at the ballpark. Mine had nothing to do with Tiger though. I would not watch if JT was leading heading into the Sun back 9.

 

[sean]

I will admit that I never watch golf on TV, although I will watch highlights. I am the same with all sports except football. I love to play golf but boring to watch, imo. I also hate watching baseball on the tube but enjoy it at the ballpark. Mine had nothing to do with Tiger though. I would not watch if JT was leading heading into the Sun back 9.

i'm pretty much the same way. i can't watch baseball or basketball on tv, but i can go to a game and watch it.

golf? never really got into it. i don't even watch highlights. i'm happy when a former BAMA player does well (that's in any sport after they leave The University), but that's as close as i can get.

 

[TerryP]

I will admit that I never watch golf on TV, although I will watch highlights. I am the same with all sports except football. I love to play golf but boring to watch, imo. I also hate watching baseball on the tube but enjoy it at the ballpark

Fortunate enough to have played a lot of golf courses I've ran into a lot of different lies. I'm watching the game from that view—I know from the coverage what I'd hit and how. It's interactive to a degree. The coverage...

Mine had nothing to do with Tiger though. I would not watch if JT was leading heading into the Sun back 9.

..with me it has to do with Tiger. It's drawing eyes, but I'm missing all the different shots from a lot of different players. A tight leaderboard help a lot this weekend in that respect, the hyperbole was over the top.

 

[JoshB]

I stand by it

 

[JoshB]

Did anyone ask him if that was before or after Tiger won his 5th jacket?

After. It would remain that way if Tiger won 100.

 

[50+yeartidefan]

Who is Tiger?

 

[TUSKtimes]

..with me it has to do with Tiger. It's drawing eyes, but I'm missing all the different shots from a lot of different players. A tight leaderboard help a lot this weekend in that respect, the hyperbole was over the top.

You haven't seen anything yet. Commercials out now, bringing attention to the all-time tourney win of Sam Sneed's 82 wins. But back in his day, that goes back to the 30s there are some serious dubious wins once upon a time. For example:

In some instances, the committee credited Snead (and other players) with wins that by some standards are suspect. For example, Snead’s victories in the Crosby Clambake have counted because of its “historical significance.” That ignores the fact that it was hardly a “tournament” in those days. His 1937 victory was in an 18 hole event, his 1938 and 1941 wins were over 36 holes, and his 1950 win was a tie over 54 holes. And that's just a taste.

Back in the day a lot of weird and dubious tournaments were the norm.

Which brings us back to Tigers incredible 81 and counting. Most people don't realize that Tiger has 40 wins on the European tour. That's 3rd all time and only 10 behind the all-time leader at 50 and he seldom played these events. It never gets mentioned and it's ridiculous given that a lot of good American golfers play these events and win very little.

 

[TerryP]

In some instances, the committee credited Snead (and other players) with wins that by some standards are suspect. For example, Snead’s victories in the Crosby Clambake have counted because of its “historical significance.” That ignores the fact that it was hardly a “tournament” in those days. His 1937 victory was in an 18 hole event, his 1938 and 1941 wins were over 36 holes, and his 1950 win was a tie over 54 holes. And that's just a taste.

Back in the day a lot of weird and dubious tournaments were the norm.

Dubious, huh? When a tournament moves from single elimination to the best two of three do the single elimination games get labeled as dubious?
While they aren't the norm today it doesn't discount the weight they carried when won. That's akin to putting caveat on Bryant's rings with the scholarship caveat when it was the norm at that time. There was no disadvantage, or advantage, to be found. And, like the win you mention for Sneak, it's far from dubious; it's won.

Which brings us back to Tigers incredible 81 and counting

Tourney wins strays away from the earlier quote. While the popularity of the game has risen, the coverage of the game isn't the same product. It's becoming increasingly worse.

 

[alabama mike]

I will make it a point to watch parts of The Master's but usually that's about it.

 

[TUSKtimes]

Dubious, huh? When a tournament moves from single elimination to the best two of three do the single elimination games get labeled as dubious?
While they aren't the norm today it doesn't discount the weight they carried when won. That's akin to putting caveat on Bryant's rings with the scholarship caveat when it was the norm at that time. There was no disadvantage, or advantage, to be found. And, like the win you mention for Sneak, it's far from dubious; it's won.

The PGA TOUR as an entity didn’t even exist until 1968. Prior to that, the professional tour was an extension of the PGA of America known as the Tournament Players Division. Players often worked as pros at clubs and toured as their schedule allowed. Others were full-time touring pros. Strength of fields likely varied wildly. Records were not well kept.

What I'm saying, there is a lot more legitimacy for Jack's 73 PGA wins that the one Tiger is now chasing. But chasing it he is and one more tie's the record, such as it is.

Tourney wins strays away from the earlier quote. While the popularity of the game has risen, the coverage of the game isn't the same product. It's becoming increasingly worse.

Don't tell that to all the people tuning in to see Tiger win a golf tourney. And the players aren't nearly as disappointed knowing that all the attention Tiger has given to golf has put millions in their pockets that otherwise ain't gonna happen. All these 20 somethings want to talk about is what Tiger has meant to them and how it's encouraged them to get in shape and play a different type of golf.

Best Masters I ever watched was last weekend. The buzz was incredible.

 

[TerryP]

@TUSKtimes, the point remains.

The TV coverage is worse for those who golf a lot. We don't get to see as much now as we did pre-Tiger or when he was struggling (and even then it was too much.) We literally could have another player in 2" of rough, on a downslope, and looking at water he has to get over to hit the green and your TV coverage will be on Tiger taking a practice swing from the fairway while his playing partner is farther out, up, and at address. It's those very scenarios (seen each week) that make the coverage worse.

 

[BamaFan334]

The PGA TOUR as an entity didn’t even exist until 1968. Prior to that, the professional tour was an extension of the PGA of America known as the Tournament Players Division. Players often worked as pros at clubs and toured as their schedule allowed. Others were full-time touring pros. Strength of fields likely varied wildly. Records were not well kept.

What I'm saying, there is a lot more legitimacy for Jack's 73 PGA wins that the one Tiger is now chasing. But chasing it he is and one more tie's the record, such as it is.






Don't tell that to all the people tuning in to see Tiger win a golf tourney. And the players aren't nearly as disappointed knowing that all the attention Tiger has given to golf has put millions in their pockets that otherwise ain't gonna happen. All these 20 somethings want to talk about is what Tiger has meant to them and how it's encouraged them to get in shape and play a different type of golf.

Best Masters I ever watched was last weekend. The buzz was incredible.

Players hated Tiger Woods because of how big of an asshole he was to them, their families, the patrons, and even the kids that were excited to come see him play. He was standoffish, selfish, and nobody liked the guy. Everything changed once he got busted cheating on his wife and kids with porn stars and hookers, on top of his pill addiction. Luckily he has had to look himself in the mirror and face a potential career ending and life changing kind of injury, because it has made him a more caring individual that smiles, is more in tune with his audience, cuts up with the younger guys on tour, and doesn't drop f-bombs and GD on the course with a group of kids five foot away anymore. Yes, everyone loves a comeback story, so you add that with a more caring and lighthearted Tiger and you have all the 20-somethings enjoying the circus he is bringing. If he remained the same Tiger as before no one would have had anything to do with him. You think he would ever have fit into that group of Fowler, Speith, Thomas, and others than party and are enjoying this ride they are on?

 

[PurlJam]

Fortunate enough to have played a lot of golf courses I've ran into a lot of different lies. I'm watching the game from that view—I know from the coverage what I'd hit and how.

Same here Terry..... the woods/water and shank/chili dip.

 

[TUSKtimes]

@TUSKtimes, the point remains.

The TV coverage is worse for those who golf a lot. We don't get to see as much now as we did pre-Tiger or when he was struggling (and even then it was too much.) We literally could have another player in 2" of rough, on a downslope, and looking at water he has to get over to hit the green and your TV coverage will be on Tiger taking a practice swing from the fairway while his playing partner is farther out, up, and at address. It's those very scenarios (seen each week) that make the coverage worse.

I like to watch sky golf. The British understate everything. They tend to get on with the action in front of them and it's enjoyable. Rich Beem and Butch Harman even do some color commentating. In this country, they have always gone out of the way to continue to pipe in all the negative crap that keeps getting regurgitated with Tiger and frankly all the feely, touchy backstories of the other golfers as well. When records start tumbling it can get wild. It's just what American TV does. That's not a Tiger problem. They did it with Muhamad Ali, LeBron James, Michael Jordan, and all the other mega stars who light up the universe. It's good to be King.

 

[TUSKtimes]

Players hated Tiger Woods because of how big of an asshole he was to them, their families, the patrons, and even the kids that were excited to come see him play. He was standoffish, selfish, and nobody liked the guy. Everything changed once he got busted cheating on his wife and kids with porn stars and hookers, on top of his pill addiction. Luckily he has had to look himself in the mirror and face a potential career ending and life changing kind of injury, because it has made him a more caring individual that smiles, is more in tune with his audience, cuts up with the younger guys on tour, and doesn't drop f-bombs and GD on the course with a group of kids five foot away anymore. Yes, everyone loves a comeback story, so you add that with a more caring and lighthearted Tiger and you have all the 20-somethings enjoying the circus he is bringing. If he remained the same Tiger as before no one would have had anything to do with him. You think he would ever have fit into that group of Fowler, Speith, Thomas, and others than party and are enjoying this ride they are on?

Now, all the fans get to embrace the redemptive Tiger. These crazy, hysterical crowds clearly indicate that everyone loves a second chance at greatness. Where he was popular before, it has gone to even greater heights.

These 20 and 30 somethings will be less enthusiastic when he keeps taking their lunch money. That stare that Molinari was getting in the final round will be more what Speith and Thomas will experience as time goes on. Is he more approachable? Yes. Will that change his demeanor when he's in red and competing? No.