🏈 How many bowl games will we see this season?

[planomateo]

Kentucky is already considering no bowl game.

You have to think budget shortfalls / tv contracts will drive this conversation. It's already forced the Pac12 and B1G to play football this year

And now @TerryP brings up ability to practice...

 

[OldPlayer]

This brings something else to mind, @Brandon Van de Graaff .

With bowl invitations comes more practice time. If they are allowing any team in for a bowl game (no win requirement in 2020) how does that translate to how long a team can practice? The more bowls canceled the less likelihood teams get that extra few weeks. It's a big deal building to spring.

"NCAA rules allow bowl teams to practice or hold other athletic activities up to four hours per day or 20 hours per week between the end of the regular season and a bowl game. While coaches often refer to the "15 extra practices" that come with a bowl invitation, there is no specific limit to the number of practices a team can hold during bowl preparation."

With the extension of games and championship games into December/mid-December, this may actually limit the number of practices that could be held before some of the smaller bowls.

 

[50+yeartidefan]

It's a 1979 Gilmore/Waters afternoon.

As with many of your responses....you lost me on this one...but thats not difficult....
Considering me....

 

[planomateo]

Pink Floyd reference

 

[50+yeartidefan]

This got split off to a new thread, so I'll expound a bit on my thought. First off, as @TerryP mentioned, I probably overshot with the 90% estimate, but I was trying to make a point while probably being a bit extreme. I honestly had no idea how many bowl games there were (though it's too many IMO - yes, I do think there is such thing as too much football [when it is really bad football]).

I think the major bowls, the New Year's Day group and some others like the Peach and the Florida Bowls will try to do everything in their power to hold the games. The issue, obviously is the impact the bat flu will have, not just with the teams, but with the respective bowl sites (like in CA as mentioned). Bowls would be held after Christmas break, and while some schools may opt to keep their guys on campus and in the preverbal "bubble", most won't, and honestly shouldn't for what would amount to a worthless (non-playoff) bowl game. Players are going to want to go home. Many players need to go home. But doing so, will cause the virus ripple effect that we inevitably get from doing such things.

It is a high risk, high reward situation. And we have seen how conferences handle such things... some like the SEC and ACC are more aggressive in their push to play games, others like the PAC-12 and B1G are much more tentative. If a bowl game is successfully played, then that is a win for everyone involved... the schools, the TV side, the bowl sponsors, etc. But it is a risk that will be weighed by each bowl, and I could see many of them canceling either because of political pressure or because they want to play it safe. If they do play most of the bowls, I'd think the only way it would work would be if teams flew to the bowl site the day before (like an in-season game), but that would take away much of what bowl week is about for the players. But by not doing so, you risk wasting a lot of money on travel, lodging, etc. if the game ends up being called 24-48 hours before kickoff because of positive tests.

Now, as mentioned, I think the big bowls and the playoff bowls will do everything possible to play, but even with those guys, I bet things are heavily altered in terms of how teams go about their business leading up to those games.

Hold the bus right there....
So...the way i read you....
In regards to these MEANING less bowls....
Should be played...and should keep the players from going h9me for the holidays...Christmas especially....
So the sponsors, schools, and hosting cities can make money?....

i can see kids giving up holidays...if a National Championship is on the line...
For 4 teams...
But a Peach Bowl win...or Liberty Bowl in beautiful Memphis in the winter...or something.... are you kidding me?....

of course..they could say.... go home if you want...put you cant comeback to team this year ( and risk infecting others)...and will play with those who want to stayand play. ( some would)....

 

[50+yeartidefan]

Pink Floyd reference

have heard of Mr Floyd.... both of them

still dont know the "what" though...
Probably have never llistened to Mr Floyd

 

[TerryP]

Pink Floyd reference

How fitting is this?!?!

"I've got 13 channels of shit on the TV to choose from..."

 

[50+yeartidefan]

How fitting is this?!?!

"I've got 13 channels of shit on the TV to choose from..."

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I remember.....in Washington ( state) had 2.......
In WV ...had 0...

3 most elsewhere.....but had to turn antenna......
TV seemed. To bring pleasure to evenings then....at no cost
144 channels now,... at 125$....and not much very interesting til fall Saturdays

 

[OldPlayer]

Hold the bus right there....
So...the way i read you....
In regards to these MEANING less bowls....
Should be played...and should keep the players from going h9me for the holidays...Christmas especially....
So the sponsors, schools, and hosting cities can make money?....

i can see kids giving up holidays...if a National Championship is on the line...
For 4 teams...
But a Peach Bowl win...or Liberty Bowl in beautiful Memphis in the winter...or something.... are you kidding me?....

of course..they could say.... go home if you want...put you cant comeback to team this year ( and risk infecting others)...and will play with those who want to stayand play. ( some would)....

For many teams, going to a bowl - any bowl - is a primary goal. They are happy going to the Beef Jerky Bowl and the players are willing to give up a holiday to experience it. Most teams that go to a bowl don't go home for the holidays. With COVID this year, I'm betting that many teams will require their players to stick around so that they aren't exposed to the virus by well-wishers who stop in to visit at home.

Some teams that play in a New Year's bowl have allowed their players to go home for a few days and then meet at the bowl site or regroup at the school and immediately fly to the destination.

The Peach Bowl is now a major bowl (part of the CFP bowl rotation).

 

[Brandon Van de Graaff]

Hold the bus right there....
So...the way i read you....
In regards to these MEANING less bowls....
Should be played...and should keep the players from going h9me for the holidays...Christmas especially....
So the sponsors, schools, and hosting cities can make money?....

i can see kids giving up holidays...if a National Championship is on the line...
For 4 teams...
But a Peach Bowl win...or Liberty Bowl in beautiful Memphis in the winter...or something.... are you kidding me?....

of course..they could say.... go home if you want...put you cant comeback to team this year ( and risk infecting others)...and will play with those who want to stayand play. ( some would)....

I'm probably not following what you're asking here, but, I'm just saying it would be an issue IMO. I'm not arguing for or against players going home for Christmas. Those decisions should be left up to the school/players to decide. I would say that most probably want to go home, and whether they know it or not, some probably need to go home. But if they do go home, it opens a bigger can of Covid worms which could make playing in a bowl more difficult. If I'm right about all this, an that's admittedly a big if, the hosting bowl economies don't stand to make much money anyway. I guess any is better than none, but fan travel and capacity are going to be way down from normal years.

 

[OldPlayer]

I'm probably not following what you're asking here, but, I'm just saying it would be an issue IMO. I'm not arguing for or against players going home for Christmas. Those decisions should be left up to the school/players to decide. I would say that most probably want to go home, and whether they know it or not, some probably need to go home. But if they do go home, it opens a bigger can of Covid worms which could make playing in a bowl more difficult. If I'm right about all this, an that's admittedly a big if, the hosting bowl economies don't stand to make much money anyway. I guess any is better than none, but fan travel and capacity are going to be way down from normal years.

Remember that the bowls make the majority of their money from TV rights, not from selling seats. The cities that promote the bowls make their money from tax revenue. They will take a revenue hit but it's important to play the game to promote the brand.

 

[50+yeartidefan]

I'd have to count. The Internet can be a beautiful thing and there's always something interesting....that's probably a third.

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Itaint i dont want internet ...its not available....lol
Have direct tv...so get a lot...and not bball fan....or other sports...watch softball...when bama is playing...

dont have to turn antenna....

 

[50+yeartidefan]

For many teams, going to a bowl - any bowl - is a primary goal. They are happy going to the Beef Jerky Bowl and the players are willing to give up a holiday to experience it. Most teams that go to a bowl don't go home for the holidays. With COVID this year, I'm betting that many teams will require their players to stick around so that they aren't exposed to the virus by well-wishers who stop in to visit at home.

Some teams that play in a New Year's bowl have allowed their players to go home for a few days and then meet at the bowl site or regroup at the school and immediately fly to the destination.

The Peach Bowl is now a major bowl (part of the CFP bowl rotation).

got you...
But...bowls USE to be big thing...for all...
Players that love playing...will do anything to have a game...i got that
But...Christmas with family... i gave up a couple ( 3 actually).....( not willingly)...
is worth more than that...

But to make school, hosting city, network money...hard sale

 

[50+yeartidefan]

I'm probably not following what you're asking here, but, I'm just saying it would be an issue IMO. I'm not arguing for or against players going home for Christmas. Those decisions should be left up to the school/players to decide. I would say that most probably want to go home, and whether they know it or not, some probably need to go home. But if they do go home, it opens a bigger can of Covid worms which could make playing in a bowl more difficult. If I'm right about all this, an that's admittedly a big if, the hosting bowl economies don't stand to make much money anyway. I guess any is better than none, but fan travel and capacity are going to be way down from normal years.

right this year....host city's arent going to make much...
But when the get 30-40 K fans in for 2-3 days...big impact
But even 10-15k make some...

my point was... home for holidays...or play a meaningless game...? To makes school ,hosting city, and espn money.... i take home!

 

[Brandon Van de Graaff]

Remember that the bowls make the majority of their money from TV rights, not from selling seats. The cities that promote the bowls make their money from tax revenue. They will take a revenue hit but it's important to play the game to promote the brand.

I was specifically talking about the host cities since that was mentioned, but yes, the big money is from the TV rights. If the bowls can be played, it will work out well for the schools and conferences, but this year it's not as easy as saying, "ok, the Music City Bowl is set for December 30th and it's going to be auburn vs. Iowa." There's going to be so much at play at every level this year that IMO, it's going to be difficult to get them all played. Again, could be wrong, they might play them all and it may be the best bowl season in the history of bowl seasons... but it looks like 8 have already been canceled (including 1 in TX which is sorta surprising), and the season isn't even over for 3 more weeks. My hope though is that they can play as many as possible. Usually the players enjoy it and they've more than earned the right to an extra game with everything they've had to deal with this season. Plus, I want to see Iowa destroy auburn.

 

[TerryP]

If I have this correct:

• Holiday
• Bahamas
• Hawaii
• Redbox
• Celebration
• Fenway
• Pinstripe
• Sun

 

[50+yeartidefan]

If I have this correct:

• Holiday
• Bahamas
• Hawaii
• Redbox
• Celebration
• Fenway
• Pinstripe
• Sun

Wouldnt watch any of these....
With rare exceptions

 

[TerryP]

Wouldnt watch any of these....
With rare exceptions

That's akin to saying I don't want to eat at a restaurant and not knowing a thing about the place. You just didn't like the name.

 

[50+yeartidefan]

That's akin to saying I don't want to eat at a restaurant and not knowing a thing about the place. You just didn't like the name.

Lol.... well....there are some restaurants i wouldnt eat at...ur right...

Name, menu, REPUTATION.....

of ones u listed...i watchedSUN Bowl when Bama played Army
I will watch any gameBama plays..anytime...any place..

but never none of others.... and i did say with rare exception....
Like ifit was hosting first round of 8 game playoff

 

[TerryP]

As with many of your responses....you lost me on this one...but thats not difficult....
Considering me....

The album, The Wall, came out in 1979: Roger Waters and David Gilmore. You mentioned getting a rise; "Comfortably Numb" afternoon was referencing a song. All these games and you say nothing to watch. The "13 channels of shit..." is a lyric that came off the same album; "Nobody's Home" was the song.

The group, Pink Floyd.