| FTBL How do y'all feel about Army (9-2) being left out of the bowl line up?

[We All Bleed Crimson]

Army, at 9-2, was left out of the bowl lineup.
Personally, I would rather see Army in one of the bowl games than South Carolina (2-8) or 10rc (3-7).
I don't know, it just seems like it would make more sense. I know the SEC has bowl tie-ins, but 2 and 8??!! How can 2-8 and 3-7 represent the SEC properly?

 

[Brandon Van de Graaff]

Tennessee had to bow out of the bowl today. I know there was some discussion about Army replacing them but not sure if anything was ever announced. Hopefully it happens, they deserve it (for a number of reasons).

Also, these bowl tie-ins are dumb and make the bowls less fun and attractive every year.

 

[50+yeartidefan]

Tennessee had to bow out of the bowl today. I know there was some discussion about Army replacing them but not sure if anything was ever announced. Hopefully it happens, they deserve it (for a number of reasons).

Also, these bowl tie-ins are dumb and make the bowls less fun and attractive every year.

Just saw they took Tennessees place

The tie ins really do not do the bowls any service...

very very very few attractive matchups.

 

[Brandon Van de Graaff]

Just saw they took Tennessees place

The tie ins really do not do the bowls any service...

very very very few attractive matchups.

Good, glad they are getting to play an extra game. Bad news is, they have to go to Memphis, so it's sorta good news, bad news.

 

[50+yeartidefan]

Good, glad they are getting to play an extra game. Bad news is, they have to go to Memphis, so it's sorta good news, bad news.

you know thats right....omg....Memphis.....mud flats of such a beautiful state...lol

 

[rick4bama]

Military Bowl was cancel so Army was left out. But the Tennessee opt-out and that when Army came into the Liberty Bowl.

 

[OldPlayer]

Army being left home to twiddle their thumbs is a travesty. 9-2 is a whole lot better than the five SEC teams with losing records that were invited to bowls. I know there are several more schools with losing records that are playing in a bowl.

 

[bamatommy]

Sucks

 

[Rolltide24]

Army - Liberty... it was meant to be!

 

[BetyoursoulBamaisbetterthanyou]

Glad Army was placed in their stead. They earned a bowl game, tennessee dang sure did not. To have kept Army out of a bowl would have been a horrible smear on the face of college football.

 

[TideatMileHigh]

There should only be like 5 or 8 bowl games IMHO. I love hearing pundits bitch about attendances being so low, yet they fail to address the fact that when you have 40 bowl games named after soulless corporate sponsors, people tend to not give a shit, fans and players alike.

 

[50+yeartidefan]

Army being left home to twiddle their thumbs is a travesty. 9-2 is a whole lot better than the five SEC teams with losing records that were invited to bowls. I know there are several more schools with losing records that are playing in a bowl.

be home for Christmas or take a "bowl" ( should be called add-on game).....
At 3-7 or 4-6....record
I take Christmas with my family....

 

[50+yeartidefan]

There should only be like 5 or 8 bowl games IMHO. I love hearing pundits bitch about attendances being so low, yet they fail to address the fact that when you have 40 bowl games named after soulless corporate sponsors, people tend to not give a shit, fans and players alike.

some on here dont agree....they think they are better than added playoff games...

 

[OldPlayer]

There should only be like 5 or 8 bowl games IMHO. I love hearing pundits bitch about attendances being so low, yet they fail to address the fact that when you have 40 bowl games named after soulless corporate sponsors, people tend to not give a shit, fans and players alike.

Remember that bowl games were created as a means to promote the city or town where the game is. It generates revenue via taxes for air, hotels, restaurants, taxis, sponsorship and tourist activities. That's why the local government is always involved (visitors and tourism boards). Even small bowls (Weedeater Bowl, Idaho Potato Bowl) generate a lot of money with less than capacity crowds. They also get the exposure and free advertising for the location during the media coverage and TV network promoting the event.

 

[kbama15]

Except California where everything is locked down! No revenue there!

 

[OldPlayer]

Except California where everything is locked down! No revenue there!

I'm not talking about this year. I'm talking about why the bowls were created.

 

[bama alum]

The state of Tennessee should be grateful Army has accepted this invite. Now they can finally see what a winning college team looks like.

 

[TideatMileHigh]

Remember that bowl games were created as a means to promote the city or town where the game is. It generates revenue via taxes for air, hotels, restaurants, taxis, sponsorship and tourist activities. That's why the local government is always involved (visitors and tourism boards). Even small bowls (Weedeater Bowl, Idaho Potato Bowl) generate a lot of money with less than capacity crowds. They also get the exposure and free advertising for the location during the media coverage and TV network promoting the event.

That's very true. My feelings are more centered around having a post season that is more merit based than economic based. I understand why these games were created, but the second and third order effects of this massive expansion has rendered the post season mostly irrelevant.

 

[TerryP]

I love hearing pundits bitch about attendances being so low, yet they fail to address the fact that when you have 40 bowl games named after soulless corporate sponsors, people tend to not give a shit, fans and players alike.

That's a mischaractization on how players feel about bowl games. These trips are highlights of their lives even in losing efforts.

 

[Brandon Van de Graaff]

A quick reshuffle without tie-ins and it's already a much better bowl lineup without much thought put into it. I left the UCF vs. BYU game as that is actually intriguing. I'm sure I've got teams listed that opted out, but whatever.

New Year's Six bowl games

DATE	BOWL / LOCATION	TIME (TV)	MATCHUP
Jan. 2	Orange Miami	8 p.m. (ESPN)	Texas A&M vs. Oklahoma
Jan. 2	Fiesta Glendale, Ariz.	4 p.m. (ESPN)	North Carolina vs. Iowa State
Jan. 1	Peach Atlanta	12:30 p.m. (ESPN)	Indiana vs. Georgia
Dec. 30	Cotton Arlington, Tex.	8 p.m. (ESPN)	Cincinnati vs. Florida

Other bowl games

DATE	BOWL	TIME (TV)	MATCHUP
Jan. 2	Outback Tampa, Fla.	12:30 p.m. (ABC)	Ole Miss vs. Miami
Jan. 2	Gator Jacksonville, Fla.	Noon (ESPN)	Kentucky vs. NC State
Jan. 1	Citrus Orlando, Fla.	1 p.m. (ABC)	Auburn vs. Northwestern
Dec. 31	Texas Houston, Texas	8 p.m. (ESPN)	Texas vs. Arkansas
Dec. 31	Liberty Memphis, Tenn.	4 p.m. (ESPN)	West Virginia vs. Missouri
Dec. 31	Arizona Tucson, Ariz.	2 p.m. (CBS)	Coastal Carolina vs. Oregon
Dec. 31	Armed Forces Fort Worth, Texas	Noon (ESPN)	Mississippi State vs. USC
Dec. 30	Music City Nashville, Tenn.	4 p.m. (ESPN)	Iowa vs. Missouri
Dec. 30	Duke's Mayo Charlotte, N.C.	Noon (ESPN)	Wake Forest vs. Army
Dec. 29	Alamo San Antonio, Texas	9 p.m. (ESPN)	Texas vs. Colorado
Dec. 29	Cheez-It Phoenix, Ariz.	5:30 p.m. (ESPN)	NC State vs. Oklahoma State
Dec. 26	LendingTree Mobile, Ala.	3:30 p.m. (ESPN)	Western Kentucky vs. Georgia State
Dec. 26	First Responder Dallas, Texas	3:30 p.m. p.m. (ABC)	Louisiana vs. Iowa
Dec. 26	Gasparilla Tampa, Fla.	Noon (ABC)	South Carolina vs. UAB
Dec. 26	Cure Orlando, Fla.	TBA (ESPN)	Kentucky vs. Liberty
Dec. 25	Camellia Montgomery, Ala.	2:30 p.m. (ESPN)	Buffalo vs. Tulsa
Dec. 24	New Mexico Albuquerque, N.M.	3:30 p.m. (ESPN)	Houston vs. Hawaii
Dec. 23	Montgomery Montgomery, Ala.	7 p.m. (ESPN/ESPN2)	Memphis vs. FAU
Dec. 23	New Orleans New Orleans	3:30 p.m. (ESPN)	Louisiana Tech vs. San Jose State
Dec. 22	Boca Raton Boca Raton, Fla.	7 p.m. (ESPN)	UCF vs. BYU
Dec. 22	Idaho Potato Boise, Idaho	3:30 p.m. (ESPN)	Tulane vs. Nevada
Dec. 21	Myrtle Beach Conway, S.C.	2:30 p.m. (ESPN)	Appalachian State 56, North Texas 28