šŸˆ Good game - no doubt best two teams

Clemson made some monster adjustments to their Oline in the 2nd half. Kept our front 4 from getting pressure. Made us have to blitz to get pressure.

You can't give them so many touches and when your Offense goes 3 and out so many times, you're going to lose. We were 2 of 15 on 3rd down... just ugly. Clemson made the changes they needed and we didn't...
 
I agree the whipped us on quite a few drives especially when our offense was on the field. I'm still mashing sour grapes over here over the controversial final play and earlier play which was essentially the same play. Pretty sure had Bama done it, the college football world would be raising pitchforks and lighting torches right now.
 
It was our offensive three and outs that killed our D, not their O-Line. They called 99 offensive plays. That is insane. We have just ONE offensive drive among those 10 in a row three and outs and we win. Poor offensive showing.

BTW, the blame goes around on the O, but Ardarius had gotten separation on those two deep balls and Jalen missed both - almost like it was just a throw away for him. Even Coker could have hit both of those. We hit one of those? Game over. We win.
 
Our receivers and penalties killed us. Fix one of those two and we win the game. Take Hurts out of the equation. He didn't turn the ball over, or kill any drives.

I'll disagree. His lack of downfield passing ability killed multiple drives (plus the penalties). The inability to convert third downs made our defense play 90+ plays.
 
Our receivers and penalties killed us. Fix one of those two and we win the game. Take Hurts out of the equation. He didn't turn the ball over, or kill any drives.

Can't take him out. His inability, outside of one play, to do anything in the passing game was arguably the leading cause of the defense playing 90+ snaps. Bama was completely one dimensional. And he did kill multiple drives with incompletions to open receivers and on one he just ran out of bounds holding the ball 5 yards behind the line of scrimmage. The o-line was ugly and stupid penalties definitely hurt but there's no way to exclude his part in that disaster on offense.
 
Can't take him out. His inability, outside of one play, to do anything in the passing game was arguably the leading cause of the defense playing 90+ snaps. Bama was completely one dimensional. And he did kill multiple drives with incompletions to open receivers and on one he just ran out of bounds holding the ball 5 yards behind the line of scrimmage. The o-line was ugly and stupid penalties definitely hurt but there's no way to exclude his part in that disaster on offense.

He can't make our receivers catch the ball, he can't make our line block correctly. Was he perfect, far from it, but he didn't cause us to lose. My main point was he didn't turn the ball over, took what the defense gave him, and was as successful as his teammates allowed. He hit Howard in stride, he hit Ridley and Stewart in the hands, he put one right in Dieter's bread basket, he was never really a threat to turn the ball over from what I remember. I think it's simply unfair of all of our own fans to sit and try to act like he was the driving force behind an inept offense and all of the three and outs. Did we not get away from the run? Were we not consistently throwing boundary passes at the line of scrimmage and allowing Clemson to simply play in a small ten yard box, did we not have a ton of offensive penalties that killed us on 1st down? I'm sorry, but using Hurts as a scapegoat makes no sense and doesn't sit well with me.
 
I'll disagree. His lack of downfield passing ability killed multiple drives (plus the penalties). The inability to convert third downs made our defense play 90+ plays.

How many shots did we take downfield? Was Coker 100% last season, or even 50%? Because I remember that we never knew what the ball was going to do coming out of Coker's hands. Sarkisian called a bad game in my mind. Started off well when we ran the ball and got up 14, then he started with the bullshit swing passes and allowed Clemson to play the line of scrimmage because there was no downfield threat. Penalties, dropped balls, and play calling were the issue, not Hurts.
 
He can't make our receivers catch the ball, he can't make our line block correctly. Was he perfect, far from it, but he didn't cause us to lose. My main point was he didn't turn the ball over, took what the defense gave him, and was as successful as his teammates allowed. He hit Howard in stride, he hit Ridley and Stewart in the hands, he put one right in Dieter's bread basket, he was never really a threat to turn the ball over from what I remember. I think it's simply unfair of all of our own fans to sit and try to act like he was the driving force behind an inept offense and all of the three and outs. Did we not get away from the run? Were we not consistently throwing boundary passes at the line of scrimmage and allowing Clemson to simply play in a small ten yard box, did we not have a ton of offensive penalties that killed us on 1st down? I'm sorry, but using Hurts as a scapegoat makes no sense and doesn't sit well with me.
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Even though I think Hurts was bad the loss was not due to him. Defense, receivers, OL, secondary caused the loss. Even with a great QB we would have trouble winning. Our receivers and OL were below average. Clemson had outstanding receivers.

So much for all the #1 recruiting classes and all the top recruited receivers.

And the loss was due to Kiffin leaving.

And Sark did not call a bad game. He can only play with what he has
 
How many shots did we take downfield? Was Coker 100% last season, or even 50%? Because I remember that we never knew what the ball was going to do coming out of Coker's hands. Sarkisian called a bad game in my mind. Started off well when we ran the ball and got up 14, then he started with the bullshit swing passes and allowed Clemson to play the line of scrimmage because there was no downfield threat. Penalties, dropped balls, and play calling were the issue, not Hurts.

I'm not saying Hurts lost the game. But, his inability to throw the ball downfield let Clemson focus on the run. Hurts' few deep passes were over the heads of the receivers. He throws the ball, he doesn't pass the ball. This loss will hurt for a while but I'm confident that CNS and staff will work with Hurts through the Spring and get the entire offense ready for FSU. I don't think Sark called a bad game. Yes, we all wish he did something different after the game, but when Bo went down, they gave up on the run (even though Harris was running well).
 
I'm not saying Hurts lost the game. But, his inability to throw the ball downfield let Clemson focus on the run. Hurts' few deep passes were over the heads of the receivers. He throws the ball, he doesn't pass the ball. This loss will hurt for a while but I'm confident that CNS and staff will work with Hurts through the Spring and get the entire offense ready for FSU. I don't think Sark called a bad game. Yes, we all wish he did something different after the game, but when Bo went down, they gave up on the run (even though Harris was running well).

He did overthrow them, but I also made a point that we needed to go deep even if we overthrew them to keep them honest, and I think that's what happened. They covered our guys well and face it, maybe only Watson could hit those throws. The thing pissing me off was the short sided throws on the line of scrimmage where the traffic was, which I can't understand to save my life. Goes against the supposide sideline to sideline business to wear the defense out. You're right though, they will have Hurts ready for Florida State and I think he's gonna do great.
 
He did overthrow them, but I also made a point that we needed to go deep even if we overthrew them to keep them honest, and I think that's what happened. They covered our guys well and face it, maybe only Watson could hit those throws. The thing pissing me off was the short sided throws on the line of scrimmage where the traffic was, which I can't understand to save my life. Goes against the supposide sideline to sideline business to wear the defense out. You're right though, they will have Hurts ready for Florida State and I think he's gonna do great.

At that point it was a wasted down... we went deep in the 4th quarter and wasted a down that put us behind the sticks. It stopped the clock also. I would have preferred to hand the ball off 3 times and punt. The odds of getting 1st down running 3 times would have been better than the odds of Jalen completing one of those 2 deep balls. If you want to open up the runs a bit... go for a 15 yard crossing route or some other medium throw... but what the the coaches were too afraid of was turning the ball over. They called plays around not turning it over instead of what was needed to win the game and in which case I would have preferred to just run the ball and keep the clock moving if that was the thought process....

The time to throw deep would have been more in the 1st or 2nd quarter with the 14 point lead... not in the 4th quarter nursing a 10 point lead...
 
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