Freddie Kitchens promoted to Cleveland Browns OC

[planomateo]

Earlier today, Browns departed with HC Hue Jackson and OC Todd Haley (probably a few more).

Freddie Kitchens gets promoted to OC.

 

[bama alum]

As a long-suffering Steelers' fan, I believe Jackson was probably fired just because he hired Todd Haley has his OC. He's terrible. Good luck, Freddie!

 

[rick4bama]

Best of Luck Freddie!

 

[alabama mike]

Wishing Freddie the best in his new role. Not sure Hue Jackson is at fault. Nobody and I mean nobody is going to win with what the Browns have done over the past several years. Ownership needs to hire a GM, give them complete authority and get out of the way. The Browns have not been great this year but they have been in most games. Sounds like another rebuild job to me.

 

[TUSKtimes]

Freddie Kitchen to Dennis Riddle for the win in the '96' IB, 24-23. I still owe him a cold one.

 

[Elderfalsedemigod]

Heard on radio today. Hue Jackson has a 20% career wining percentage and that is only by virtue of his one 8-8 season with the Raiders. 11-44-1 career record. I do not think Hue is a good head coach even though he has been in some crappy situations. He does not seem to hire well and makes other stupid decisions that good head coaches don't make. JMO

 

[JoshB]

Wishing Freddie the best in his new role. Not sure Hue Jackson is at fault. Nobody and I mean nobody is going to win with what the Browns have done over the past several years. Ownership needs to hire a GM, give them complete authority and get out of the way. The Browns have not been great this year but they have been in most games. Sounds like another rebuild job to me.

He's certainly not at fault. I actually like Hue jackson and someone is about to get a hell of an OC (Jackson) unless he decides to go to college or something and try his hand there.

 

[bamachine]

Wishing Freddie the best in his new role. Not sure Hue Jackson is at fault. Nobody and I mean nobody is going to win with what the Browns have done over the past several years. Ownership needs to hire a GM, give them complete authority and get out of the way. The Browns have not been great this year but they have been in most games. Sounds like another rebuild job to me.

He was pretty dumb, in his decisions, from what I saw in Hard Knocks this season. He is also a little arrogant for someone who has so little success as a HC. Being with that organization just multiplies any issues that do exist. Hopefully Freddie does well enough to get the hell out of hell.

 

[planomateo]

Hue seems to much of a players coach to me. I believe those types are focused on the wrong things. Certainly not what Cleveland needs.

The fact he survived another year is astonishing.

 

[JoseyWalesTheOutlaw]

Heard on radio today. Hue Jackson has a 20% career wining percentage and that is only by virtue of his one 8-8 season with the Raiders. 11-44-1 career record. I do not think Hue is a good head coach even though he has been in some crappy situations. He does not seem to hire well and makes other stupid decisions that good head coaches don't make. JMO

If Hue Jackson is a good NFL HC then I am Luciano Pavarotti....now I do have a Tux (Burch and Tant...TitleTown...1973)

 

[JoshB]

Wishing Freddie the best in his new role. Not sure Hue Jackson is at fault. Nobody and I mean nobody is going to win with what the Browns have done over the past several years. Ownership needs to hire a GM, give them complete authority and get out of the way. The Browns have not been great this year but they have been in most games. Sounds like another rebuild job to me.

He was pretty dumb, in his decisions, from what I saw in Hard Knocks this season. He is also a little arrogant for someone who has so little success as a HC. Being with that organization just multiplies any issues that do exist. Hopefully Freddie does well enough to get the hell out of hell.

It actually astonishes me that someone that watched Hard Knocks would come away from that saying he came off as "arrogant." You are literally the ONLY person I have ever heard say that, after watching that show.

What decisions did he make that were dumb?

 

[JoshB]

Hue seems to much of a players coach to me. I believe those types are focused on the wrong things. Certainly not what Cleveland needs.

The fact he survived another year is astonishing.

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I would say he's a players coach but he clearly has done things that demand respect. Just look at when Corey Coleman was whining to anyone that would listen that he had been bumped to the second team and demanded that "If Im not gonna start, trade my ass" and literally hours later he traded his ass.

 

[bamachine]

Wishing Freddie the best in his new role. Not sure Hue Jackson is at fault. Nobody and I mean nobody is going to win with what the Browns have done over the past several years. Ownership needs to hire a GM, give them complete authority and get out of the way. The Browns have not been great this year but they have been in most games. Sounds like another rebuild job to me.

He was pretty dumb, in his decisions, from what I saw in Hard Knocks this season. He is also a little arrogant for someone who has so little success as a HC. Being with that organization just multiplies any issues that do exist. Hopefully Freddie does well enough to get the hell out of hell.

It actually astonishes me that someone that watched Hard Knocks would come away from that saying he came off as "arrogant." You are literally the ONLY person I have ever heard say that, after watching that show.

What decisions did he make that were dumb?

Multiple assistants, starting with Kitchens, tried to tell him that they needed the guys that were injured to be out there at practices to watch what they were working on. Not that they should be out there practicing, just watching what they were trying to install, live. He completely dismissed all of them with a "I am the head coach, if you ever get to where I am, then you can make those decisions."

I fully get that he should have the final say but he did not even mull it over or discuss it with them, he immediately shut them down and then grandstanded.

As for me being the only one, try doing a search of r/nfl for the Hard Knocks threads or SurlyHorns for their thread.

I think he might be a good assistant/coordinator but he is not HC material.

 

[JoshB]

Wishing Freddie the best in his new role. Not sure Hue Jackson is at fault. Nobody and I mean nobody is going to win with what the Browns have done over the past several years. Ownership needs to hire a GM, give them complete authority and get out of the way. The Browns have not been great this year but they have been in most games. Sounds like another rebuild job to me.

He was pretty dumb, in his decisions, from what I saw in Hard Knocks this season. He is also a little arrogant for someone who has so little success as a HC. Being with that organization just multiplies any issues that do exist. Hopefully Freddie does well enough to get the hell out of hell.

It actually astonishes me that someone that watched Hard Knocks would come away from that saying he came off as "arrogant." You are literally the ONLY person I have ever heard say that, after watching that show.

What decisions did he make that were dumb?

Multiple assistants, starting with Kitchens, tried to tell him that they needed the guys that were injured to be out there at practices to watch what they were working on. Not that they should be out there practicing, just watching what they were trying to install, live. He completely dismissed all of them with a "I am the head coach, if you ever get to where I am, then you can make those decisions."

I fully get that he should have the final say but he did not even mull it over or discuss it with them, he immediately shut them down and then grandstanded.

As for me being the only one, try doing a search of r/nfl for the Hard Knocks threads or SurlyHorns for their thread.

I think he might be a good assistant/coordinator but he is not HC material.

I will say I agree with that being a decision but it doesn't come off as arrogant. And its very hard for me to take one scenario where he didnt handle it well as him being "arrogant" when he didn't come off that way in any other interactions.

 

[50+yeartidefan]

Met Freddie Kitchens parent at a Bama game,...they got ( had ?) this hugh RV with a custom paint job with FK in Bama uniform on it...was awesome...
If only had camera phones then

 

[planomateo]

 

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