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If there is one fact in the SEC. NO ONE knows what's going to happen at LSU. Period with emphasis.

Y'all want to talk about the six degrees of separation between women's basketball and "The Village People" with a loop of the former White House Press Sect?
 
Krimson said:
If you have a job you answer to someone and you do things you don't really want to do.
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I'm in the middle of grabbing some screen shots from U2 "Where the Streets Have No Name" for the mag for EPP...literally, just had a conversation with the writer about the cops on the scene. "They didn't want to do it..." Wild, K.
 
Krimson said:
If you have a job you answer to someone and you do things you don't really want to do.
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If I was the head football coach, IT WOULD BE MY STAFF... not a staff chosen by the athletic Director... not retreads like Frank Wilson... are you the head coach or not?... apparently Woodward's bullying didn't work.. because now BRIAN Kelly is $54 million richer... and hopefully he will not negotiate at all...
 
24and7 said:
If I was the head football coach, IT WOULD BE MY STAFF... not a staff chosen by the athletic Director... not retreads like Frank Wilson... are you the head coach or not?... apparently Woodward's bullying didn't work.. because now BRIAN Kelly is $54 million richer... and hopefully he will not negotiate at all...
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Bo Davis got some terrible advice while Saban was out of town and made a poor decision. Saban didn't want him gone, but understood. Ain't no telling how many coaches have "lied" to Saban about stuff, but that particular time, compliance was in the middle of it so it blew up. The fact Saban wanted him back at UA should tell you all there is to know. Yes, on Freeze and Pruitt, the SEC advised against bringing them in, but they didn't stop UA from doing it. UA advised auburn not to sure Pearl when he was under his show cause, but that didn't stop them. Now on Pruitt, later on, he himself made things more difficult with his decisions to file lawsuits, that is true too.

I'll also reiterate, I'm personally not sold that this Kelly/Woodard thing went down like some reported it (with demands). I'll leave it at that other than (again) to say those things do happen... admittedly, much less to a coach like Saban who swung the bat that he wielded. Which is why he's not a great example to bring up. But few very few coaches have the power that he had... and even still, he got overruled at times.
 
Brandon Van de Graaff said:
Bo Davis got some terrible advice while Saban was out of town and made a poor decision. Saban didn't want him gone, but understood. Ain't no telling how many coaches have "lied" to Saban about stuff, but that particular time, compliance was in the middle of it so it blew up. The fact Saban wanted him back at UA should tell you all there is to know. Yes, on Freeze and Pruitt, the SEC advised against bringing them in, but they didn't stop UA from doing it. UA advised auburn not to sure Pearl when he was under his show cause, but that didn't stop them. Now on Pruitt, later on, he himself made things more difficult with his decisions to file lawsuits, that is true too.

I'll also reiterate, I'm personally not sold that this Kelly/Woodard thing went down like some reported it (with demands). I'll leave it at that other than (again) to say those things do happen... admittedly, much less to a coach like Saban who swung the bat that he wielded. Which is why he's not a great example to bring up. But few very few coaches have the power that he had... and even still, he got overruled at times.
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You are right about this... The media is the one that said over and over that Saban didn't trust Davis... Hell I wanted him back myself..His results were undeniable
 
24and7 said:
Yikes for them...
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Okay. I'm not done. You don't think these things through.

Page 42 of this thread I mentioned why this is a good move.
TerryP said:
I always appreciated and liked Frank Beamer. That came with the realization he didn't have much in the charisma department. Yet, that worked with Va Tech in spite of the "couch burning reputation" their fan base carries.

I see Franklin and Beamer 'neck to neck' in their race for the most charisma which leads me to think that might be a good landing spot. (May not have been the best use of a cliche there...)
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Brandon Van de Graaff said:
Saban didn't resign when UA told him he had to fire Bo Davis. He also didn't resign when UA told him he couldn't hire Hugh Freeze or (rehire) Jeremy Pruitt.

I'm not defending Woodward here, as you mentioned, his poor decisions played a role in all of it. But AD's make "suggestions" or "demands" all the time, in all sports (if that is actually what happened in this case). Foley made the strong suggestion to Napier last year that he relinquish his play calling duties and just focus on being the HC. Napier declined and stuck with that he wanted to do. Things didn't improve, so he got fired.
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Agree with all of that, but the additional piece is the AD had already been given some direction by the governor, which could've been, "get rid of the HC".
 
TerryP said:
Now that you've made your way through those two booster groups you have your biggest task at hand. How do you handle the political power Woodward holds in the state of Louisiana if you're going to fire him?
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It Takes Eleven said:
Agree with all of that, but the additional piece is the AD had already been given some direction by the governor, which could've been, "get rid of the HC".
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TerryP said:
If there is one fact in the SEC. NO ONE knows what's going to happen at LSU. Period with emphasis.
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It Takes Eleven said:
Agree with all of that, but the additional piece is the AD had already been given some direction by the governor, which could've been, "get rid of the HC".
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Exactly. And the only LSU fans left in the stadium during the 4th quarter Saturday night were pissed off boosters passing around the proverbial collection plate. The fuse had been lit.
 

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