šŸŒŽ DOGE (Department of Government Efficiency) Reports of moving the USPS under the Dept. of Commerce

ElephantStomp said:
Yes, Iā€™d start with the defense. We have absolutely zero reason to spend what we do on defense
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I realize your position on defense funding. I don't believe, for one second, you value your tax dollars being spent on a comic book for a foreign country versus money spent protecting our country.

I don't believe, for one second, there isn't waste and "malarkey" (as your boy liked to say šŸ™ƒ ) in the DoD. The same goes for ALL government agencies. I wholeheartedly believe that waste should be eliminated.

A comparison with something that benefits American citizens versus something that has no benefit to you or me? Come on. Think about what you are saying here. You'd rather see US defenses cut versus cutting a pipeline that ran from USAID to NGO's to terrorist organizations whose intentions aren't questioned by the US government? Hyperbole on your part, or just tossing a quart of fuel on this little fire of ours?

BTW, has everyone noticed that all these findings we're seeing published...NO ONE is disputing that's where the money went. It's stopping that money flow that's riled nerves.

Make it make sense.
 
Brandon Van de Graaff said:
Also, if it comes to light that The Athletic was kept alive by any of my tax dollars, I may go dark and emerge as a Dexter-like hero that dispatches any and all who approved such.
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According to a report by a guy named Cheong (may have misspelled that, Ian something) a little under fifty million was "awarded" to the NYT from HHS and NSF through USAID.

And who owns ... ?
 
TerryP said:
A comparison with something that benefits American citizens versus something that has no benefit to you or me? Come on.
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Regarding the effects of military spending, a wise, 5-star general and supreme WW2 commander once said the following as he left the Oval Office:

ā€œBut threats, new in kind or degree, constantly arise. I mention two onlyā€¦ The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist. We must never let the weight of this combination endanger our liberties or democratic processesā€¦ Partly because of the huge costs involved, a government contract becomes virtually a substitute for intellectual curiosityā€¦ The prospect of domination of the nation's scholars by Federal employment, project allocations, and the power of money is ever present and is gravely to be regardedā€¦ we must also be alert to the equal and opposite danger that public policy could itself become the captive of a scientific-technological eliteā€¦ As we peer into society's future, we-you and I, and our government-must avoid the impulse to live only for today, plundering, for our own ease and convenience, the precious resources of tomorrow. We cannot mortgage the material assets of our grandchildren without risking the loss also of their political and spiritual heritage. We want democracy to survive for all generations to come, not to become the insolvent phantom of tomorrowā€¦ Disarmament ā€¦ is a continuing imperative. Together we must learn how to compose difference, not with arms, but with intellect and decent purposeā€¦ā€

On an earlier occasion he said:

ā€œEvery gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired signifies, in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed. This world in arms is not spending money alone. It is spending the sweat of its laborers, the genius of its scientists, the hopes of its children. The cost of one modern heavy bomber is this: a modern brick school in more than 30 cities. It is two electric power plants, each serving a town of 60,000 population. It is two fine, fully equipped hospitals. It is some fifty miles of concrete pavement. We pay for a single fighter plane with a half million bushels of wheat. We pay for a single destroyer with new homes that could have housed more than 8,000 people. This is, I repeat, the best way of life to be found on the road the world has been taking. This is not a way of life at all, in any true senseā€¦ā€
 
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I appreciate the Eisenhower quotation.

If he were standing here with us today while looking at and discussing this very subject he'd say "those suggesting cutting defense spending versus these things we're seeing being exposed are damn fools." You think he's going to be 'all in' with sending money to Egypt for tourism when his troops live in the streets? Hell, paying for sex changes in Guatemala when Walter Reed is in the condition its in?


I'm reading and watching. I see things being canceled. I see people upset about what's happening. I haven't seen anyone point to a cut and say why it's a bad idea to defund _________. I haven't seen everything that's been cut.


I fell into a bit of a rabbit hole reading how DOGE was implemented. Note, I didn't say created. The department (United States Digital Service) was created under O'Bama. It's now the United States DOGE Service. It was about a decade ago and the goal was improving digital services within the government: IT projects and the like.
 
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