🏈 Devastating accusations leveled at Tennessee

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by a GoVolsextra.com poster who claims to be an ex-Tennessee player and staff member.

Who knows if it is true or not but, you never know. The original post was removed but some of the responses to it are still up here:

http://www.govolsxtra.com/news/2009/may/22/ausmus-target-vols-search-strength-coach/#comments

Here is the original post that was zapped:

(1) In private meetings, 1 of which I attended, Mike Hamilton admitted that the basic accusations of the Super Bowl party were true.

(2) Coaches have equipment managers ice beer down for their consumption in the public areas of the complex after practice. Remember: 1 of the coaches has a DUI, 1 is an admitted alcoholic/addict and another is the son of a convicted drug dealer.

(3) Cutting walk-ons after they paid their fees for the spring semester - and couldn't get a refund and attend another school.

(4) One of the coaches is regularly seen at an apartment of a known Knoxville drug dealer.

(5) The secretaries who were described as "not being able to keep up" in January provoked Lane and Assistant head Coach Ed Orgeron because they were not comfortable hearing the words g***amn and m*f***er every 30 seconds.

(6) Lane uses the student managers (driving UT vehicles) as his own personal designated driver service. Before Layla got to Knoxville, he often used this service to get him to his favorite watering holes.

Someone should ask Lane where he spent the evening after the lettermen's party at Ray Hand's house - after leaving OCI with the daughter of ... (out of respect for the father of this girl, I won't finish the sentence.)

(7) Kiffin had to be reprimanded by Hamilton for drinking with college students at Hannah's and OCI. (Again, before Layla came to town.)

(8) Assistant Head Coach Ed Orgeron has instructed staff members that he doesn't give a darn about their families. They should get somebody to raise their children for them, because their life belongs to him.

(9) Throughout the spring, world's oldest GA Mitch Browning didn't review install packages with his players. He would give them pages from a playbook, accompanied with "I don't know why we're doing this; it's stupid and won't work." It really installed confidence in the players.

(10) After his first week on the job, Eddie Gran described the personal lives and habits of his new co-workers to a friend still on the support staff at Auburn "one thing I can tell you about the guys I work with: haven't any of them found the Lord."

(11) The physicians are no longer the final decision-maker of the health care of the student athlete. If a doctor says that a player should be held out of contact or certain types of activities, the coaching staff regularly overrules these decisions. I know that Mark Smith and Assistant Head Coach Ed Orgeron have butted heads over this many times. Athletic trainer Jason McVeigh has been threatened with his job if he objects to Orgeron's medical decisions.

 

[freelancewriter]

I saw this before the deletions started and what's written above was posted by john1998.

he also posted the following-

OK, here's one from someone who's not someone who hates UT, although you may respond to it the same way...
The "fictional lead" about which everyone is referring - that is, the 800 pound gorilla sitting in the room no one wants to mention - is this: Did Orgeron want Mark Smith to administer certain "supplements" to the players, and Smith refuse? The reason for Smith's departure emanates from Orgeron, that much we know.
I hope the Sentinel and other reporters work to learn the full story. I would start by calling the old S&C and equipment people at Ole Miss and see what sorts of things Orgeron did down there. (Hooker, Hyams, Low, somebody...are you listening?)
BTW, I'm not a troll from another school who hates UT. I played for UT, have 2 rings and served on the staff there more than 10 years ago. I am saddened almost every week by something that happens in that program. Not the things I read about in the paper...it's the things that aren't in the paper that are most disappointing.
Mike Hamilton probably needs some Ambien each night. He probably also wishes he had a university President to take a little of this heat.

 

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Right, Freelance, this guy doesn't seem like your typical troll. He seems fairly intelligent and knowledgeable about the inner workings of Tennessee, knows all the names, etc...

 

[joeman546]

While I have trouble believing all the accusations, the Ed Ogeron stuff, cussing stuff, and Lane using UT vehicles as his personal envoy wouldnt surprise me.

Neither would the cutting walkons after the deadline for tuition refunds. Thatd PISS me off, as someone who goes to college.

Id be demanding that the coach gave me a refund out of his own pocket then and there, or id be going directly to the newspapers to destroy his reputation.

Thats 5 months of time + money that coach wasted.

EDIT: I wouldnt care who the coach was, it could be Nick Saban himself, you just dont do that

 

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While I have trouble believing all the accusations, the Ed Ogeron stuff, cussing stuff, and Lane using UT vehicles as his personal envoy wouldnt surprise me.

Neither would the cutting walkons after the deadline for tuition refunds. Thatd PISS me off, as someone who goes to college.

Id be demanding that the coach gave me a refund out of his own pocket then and there, or id be going directly to the newspapers to destroy his reputation.

Thats 5 months of time + money that coach wasted.

EDIT: I wouldnt care who the coach was, it could be Nick Saban himself, you just dont do that

I agree, Joe. I really hope it isn't true, not for Tennessee's sake, but for the teens that could possibly have been jobbed.

 

[freelancewriter]

While I have trouble believing all the accusations, the Ed Ogeron stuff, cussing stuff, and Lane using UT vehicles as his personal envoy wouldnt surprise me.

Neither would the cutting walkons after the deadline for tuition refunds. Thatd PISS me off, as someone who goes to college.

Id be demanding that the coach gave me a refund out of his own pocket then and there, or id be going directly to the newspapers to destroy his reputation.

Thats 5 months of time + money that coach wasted.

EDIT: I wouldnt care who the coach was, it could be Nick Saban himself, you just dont do that

people around vol message boards are questioning this guys credibility and i'm not surprised. his response to those questions is interesting.

Hey With Doctor person... chew on this...let me know if I'm an interloper...

The locker room at the Neyland Thompson sports complex has double doors that open to an area where each player has a cage where he gets his clean laundry prior to each workout. There is a flat screen television monitor above the door that displays, among other things, the players' schedule for the day

Inside the locker room there is a steam room that hasn't worked in years.

There is a new player's lounge that was constructed in the place where the coaches' locker room used to be. The coaches locker room was rebuilt in the basement of the building - a terribly inconvenient place.

There is one remaining elliptical trainer in the weight room. the rest were moved into the new baseball weight room that was a part of the recent Lindsey Nelson renovation.

The team meeting room in the Complex sits on the second floor of the building, at the north end of the indoor field. The chairs in the room are black and oversized.

The new staff now plays rap music at practice.

The UT athletic training room is named after Tim Kerin, who died 5 weeks before John Majors' heart attack in 1992 (from memory.) It was the summer of John Ward's heart problem, as well. (John had a pacemaker installed.)

Jackie Sherrill quietly attended Kerin's funeral, which was held at Sacred Heart Cathedral on Northshore Drive. He is buried in a cemetery off Broadway.

The cheerleaers and game officials now split the old team dressing rooms under the east stands in Neyland Stadium. They can be entered from behind the home bench, from the northeast corner of the endzone, or via a small, unknown doorway that also leads to Gus Manning's "halftime room" under the old east stands.

Convinced?

Certainly knows how to pull strings, grab ladels and stir the pot.

 

[Kozlowski]

The guy was clearly a Fulmer lover.

UT has problems with many old guard still wanting Fulmer to be the coach. (some never liked Fulmer that were Majors supporters)

Fulmer hanging around that program (much like Pat Dye) will be detrimental to the Kiffin (and possibly the next guy even):nana:

 

[TerryP]

The guy was clearly a Fulmer lover.

UT has problems with many old guard still wanting Fulmer to be the coach. (some never liked Fulmer that were Majors supporters)

Fulmer hanging around that program (much like Pat Dye) will be detrimental to the Kiffin (and possibly the next guy even):nana:

Personally, I take what that guy posted...well, let's just say the cliche "grain of salt" is being generous.

When it first started its rounds I did send it to a few friends I have around the USC program. I was told O is a wild card, but the behavior described by Kiffin doesn't fit with his time at USC.

I see this about like every other good rumor. Add a little truth here and there and it somehow gives credence to the entire diatribe.

Adding to what you said here...

The thing I'm noticing, and can't say I mind it at all, is a continuation from what we've seen over these past few years.

There was a growing division in their fan base with Fulmer. The lovers, as you mentioned, and those that wanted him out. Now, those two groups seem to be divided into three.

Pro-Fulmer.
Pro-Kiffin.
Anti-Kiffin but anti-Fulmer as well.

You know what they say about a nation divided...

 

[Swamptick]

I hope it's all true. This is all so incredibly awesome!