🏈 Defensive Depth and where Bama stands

[crimsoncorner]

Defensive Line

Lose 4:
5* DL Da'Ron Payne, JR (Natl Rk: 29; Position Rk: 7)
5* DL Da'Shawn Hand, SR (Natl Rk: 5; Position Rk: 1)
4* DL Joshua Frazier, SR (Natl Rk: 85; Position Rk: 6)
3* DL Jamar King, SR (Natl Rk: 54 (JUCO); Position Rk: 4 (JUCO))

Gain 5:
5* DE Eyabi Anoma, FR (Natl Rk: 4; Position Rk: 1)
4* DE Jarez Parks, FR (Natl Rk: 91; Position Rk: 7) Note: Greyshirt in 2017
4* DT Stephon Wynn, FR (Natl Rk: 74; Position Rk: 3)
4* DT Christian Barmore, FR (Natl Rk: 176; Position Rk: 16)

Return 6:
4* DE Isaiah Buggs, SR (Natl Rk: 2 (JUCO); Position Rk: 1 (JUCO))
4* DT Raekwon Davis, JR (Natl Rk: 84; Position Rk: 11)
4* DT Quinnen Williams, RS SO (Natl Rk: 160; Position Rk: 16)
5* DE LaBryan Ray, SO (Natl Rk: 26; Position Rk: 1)
4* DT Phildarian Mathis, RS FR (Natl Rk: 99; Position Rk: 7)
3* DT Johnny Dwight, RS SR (Natl Rk: 429; Position Rk: 32)

Linebackers

Lose 3:
5* LB Rashaan Evans, SR (Natl Rk: 15; Position Rk: 1)
4* LB Shaun Dion Hamilton, SR (Natl Rk: 203; Position Rk: 9)
4* LB Mekhi Brown, RS SO (Natl Rk: 114; Position Rk: 6)

Gain 2:
4* LB Cameron Latu, FR (Natl Rk: 131; Position Rk: 7)
4* LB Jordan Davis, FR (Natl Rk: 108; Position Rk: 6)
3* LB Jaylen Moody, FR (Natl Rk: 697; Position Rk: 49)

Return 13:
5* LB Mack Wilson, JR (Natl Rk: 15; Position Rk: 2)
4* LB Anfernee Jennings, RS JR (Natl Rk: 172; Position Rk: 11)
4* LB Terrell Hall, JR (Natl Rk: 64; Position Rk: 6)
4* LB Christian Miller, RS SR (Natl Rk: 39; Position Rk: 3)
5* LB Dylan Moses, SO (Natl Rk: 13; Position Rk: 2)
0* LB Jamey Mosley, RS SR (Natl Rk: NA; Position Rk: NA)
4* LB Christopher Allen, SO (Natl Rk: 106; Position Rk: 8)
4* LB Keith Holcombe, RS SR (Natl Rk: 281; Position Rk: 27)
5* LB Ben Davis, RS SO (Natl Rk: 10; Position Rk: 1)
4* LB VanDarius Cowan, RS FR (Natl Rk: 83; Position Rk: 5)
4* LB Markail Benton, RS FR (Natl Rk: 98; Position Rk: 7)
4* LB Joshua McMillon, RS JR (Natl Rk: 224; Position Rk: 16)
3* LB Keaton Anderson, RS JR (Natl Rk: 584; Position Rk: 41)

Defensive Backs

Lose 6:
5* DB Minkah Fitzpatrick, JR (Natl Rk: 30; Position Rk: 5)
4* DB Ronnie Harrison, JR (Natl Rk: 197; Position Rk: 12)
4* DB Anthony Averett, RS SR (Natl Rk: 274; Position Rk: 24)
0* DB Levi Wallace, SR (Walk-on)
5* DB Tony Brown, SR (Natl Rk: 9; Position Rk: 2)
4* DB Hootie Jones, SR (Natl Rk: 50; Position Rk: 4)

Gain 5:
5* DB Patrick Surtain, Jr., FR (Natl Rk: 6; Position Rk: 1)
4* DB Saivion Smith, FR (Natl Rk: 2 (JUCO); Position Rk: 1 (JUCO))
4* DB Jalyn Armour-Davis, FR (Natl Rk: 107; Position Rk: 13)
4* DB Josh Jobe, FR (Natl Rk: 109; Position Rk: 14)
3* DB Eddie Smith, FR (Natl Rk: 436; Position Rk: 42)

Return 8:
4* DB Deionte Thompson, RS JR (Natl Rk: 44; Position Rk: 2)
4* DB Trevon Diggs, JR (Natl Rk: 114; Position Rk: 4)
4* DB Shyheim Carter, JR (Natl Rk: 71; Position Rk: 9)
4* DB Daniel Wright, SO (Natl Rk: 118; Position Rk: 15)
4* DB Jared Mayden, JR (Natl Rk: 138; Position Rk: 13)
4* DB Xavier McKinney, SO (Natl Rk: 58; Position Rk: 6)
4* DB Nigel Knott, RS SO (Natl Rk: 62; Position Rk: 7)
3* DB Kyriq McDonald, RS FR (Natl Rk: 474; Position Rk: 46)

 

[50+yeartidefan]

Defensive Line

Lose 4:
5* DL Da'Ron Payne, JR (Natl Rk: 29; Position Rk: 7)
5* DL Da'Shawn Hand, SR (Natl Rk: 5; Position Rk: 1)
4* DL Joshua Frazier, SR (Natl Rk: 85; Position Rk: 6)
3* DL Jamar King, SR (Natl Rk: 54 (JUCO); Position Rk: 4 (JUCO))

Gain 5:
5* DL Eyabi Anoma, FR (Natl Rk: 4; Position Rk: 1)
4* DL Jarez Parks, FR (Natl Rk: 91; Position Rk: 7) Note: Greyshirt in 2017
4* DL Stephon Wynn, FR (Natl Rk: 74; Position Rk: 3)
4* DL Jordan Davis, FR (Natl Rk: 108; Position Rk: 6)
4* DL Christian Barmore, FR (Natl Rk: 176; Position Rk: 16)

Return 6:
4* DL Isaiah Buggs, SR (Natl Rk: 2 (JUCO); Position Rk: 1 (JUCO))
4* DL Raekwon Davis, JR (Natl Rk: 84; Position Rk: 11)
4* DL Quinnen Williams, RS SO (Natl Rk: 160; Position Rk: 16)
5* DL LaBryan Ray, SO (Natl Rk: 26; Position Rk: 1)
4* DL Phildarian Mathis, RS FR (Natl Rk: 99; Position Rk: 7)
3* DL Johnny Dwight, RS SR (Natl Rk: 429; Position Rk: 32)

Linebackers

Lose 3:
5* LB Rashaan Evans, SR (Natl Rk: 15; Position Rk: 1)
4* LB Shaun Dion Hamilton, SR (Natl Rk: 203; Position Rk: 9)
4* LB Mekhi Brown, RS SO (Natl Rk: 114; Position Rk: 6)

Gain 2:
4* LB Cameron Latu, FR (Natl Rk: 131; Position Rk: 7)
3* LB Jaylen Moody, FR (Natl Rk: 697; Position Rk: 49)

Return 13:
5* LB Mack Wilson, JR (Natl Rk: 15; Position Rk: 2)
4* LB Anfernee Jennings, RS JR (Natl Rk: 172; Position Rk: 11)
4* LB Terrell Hall, JR (Natl Rk: 64; Position Rk: 6)
4* LB Christian Miller, RS SR (Natl Rk: 39; Position Rk: 3)
5* LB Dylan Moses, SO (Natl Rk: 13; Position Rk: 2)
0* LB Jamey Mosley, RS SR (Natl Rk: NA; Position Rk: NA)
4* LB Christopher Allen, SO (Natl Rk: 106; Position Rk: 8)
4* LB Keith Holcombe, RS SR (Natl Rk: 281; Position Rk: 27)
5* LB Ben Davis, RS SO (Natl Rk: 10; Position Rk: 1)
4* LB VanDarius Cowan, RS FR (Natl Rk: 83; Position Rk: 5)
4* LB Markail Benton, RS FR (Natl Rk: 98; Position Rk: 7)
4* LB Joshua McMillon, RS JR (Natl Rk: 224; Position Rk: 16)
3* LB Keaton Anderson, RS JR (Natl Rk: 584; Position Rk: 41)

Defensive Backs

Lose 6:
5* DB Minkah Fitzpatrick, JR (Natl Rk: 30; Position Rk: 5)
4* DB Ronnie Harrison, JR (Natl Rk: 197; Position Rk: 12)
4* DB Anthony Averett, RS SR (Natl Rk: 274; Position Rk: 24)
0* DB Levi Wallace, SR (Walk-on)
5* DB Tony Brown, SR (Natl Rk: 9; Position Rk: 2)
4* DB Hootie Jones, SR (Natl Rk: 50; Position Rk: 4)

Gain 5:
5* DB Patrick Surtain, Jr., FR (Natl Rk: 6; Position Rk: 1)
4* DB Saivion Smith, FR (Natl Rk: 2 (JUCO); Position Rk: 1 (JUCO))
4* DB Jalyn Armour-Davis, FR (Natl Rk: 107; Position Rk: 13)
4* DB Josh Jobe, FR (Natl Rk: 109; Position Rk: 14)
3* DB Eddie Smith, FR (Natl Rk: 436; Position Rk: 42)

Return 8:
4* DB Deionte Thompson, RS JR (Natl Rk: 44; Position Rk: 2)
4* DB Trevon Diggs, JR (Natl Rk: 114; Position Rk: 4)
4* DB Shyheim Carter, JR (Natl Rk: 71; Position Rk: 9)
4* DB Daniel Wright, SO (Natl Rk: 118; Position Rk: 15)
4* DB Jared Mayden, JR (Natl Rk: 138; Position Rk: 13)
4* DB Xavier McKinney, SO (Natl Rk: 58; Position Rk: 6)
4* DB Nigel Knott, RS SO (Natl Rk: 62; Position Rk: 7)
3* DB Kyriq McDonald, RS FR (Natl Rk: 474; Position Rk: 46)

So maybe the end of the dynasty isnt quite occurring real soon!!!!
Nice info....

 

[BamaMD]

So maybe the end of the dynasty isnt quite occurring real soon!!!!
Nice info....

Nope, but with guys departing early for the NFL every year, its going to be imperative that we hire a great recruiter/coach to replace Dunbar to restock the d-line. Otherwise, we could see some issues 2-3 years down the road.

 

[bama alum]

5* LB Ben Davis, RS SO (Natl Rk: 10; Position Rk: 1)

Will this be the year...?

 

[EasyTider]

Who are the likely 1&2 to line up over the center/guards, nose tackle if you will?. (Payne's replacement)

 

[bradenob]

Who are the likely 1&2 to line up over the center/guards, nose tackle if you will?. (Payne's replacement)

Yes CC- Because you list all the D line guys as DLs but there IS a definite distinction between a DE, a Jack, and a true DL in Sabans defense. I know someone can grow INTO a DL or be a DL/DE a la Jonarhan Allen- what say you?

 

[JoshB]

Yes CC- Because you list all the D line guys as DLs but there IS a definite distinction between a DE, a Jack, and a true DL in Sabans defense. I know someone can grow INTO a DL or be a DL/DE a la Jonarhan Allen- what say you?

I think you mean DT...

 

[JoshB]

I think Ray could possibly even get some snaps at nose this year. I just dont see Dwight as the answer there. Wynn may be called into action sooner rather than later.
I think its now or never for Ben Davis at insider backer. Mack Wilson has the MIKE locked up and I think if Davis (or another) can step in at the other inside spot, Moses will move outside. Otherwise he will stay inside.

 

[kbama15]

I just pray for no injuries this season!

 

[crimsoncorner]

DT and DE are fixed.

 

[Tidestalker]

Yes CC- Because you list all the D line guys as DLs but there IS a definite distinction between a DE, a Jack, and a true DL in Sabans defense. I know someone can grow INTO a DL or be a DL/DE a la Jonarhan Allen- what say you?

L. Ray or Jarez Parks... Right?!

We just need to be relatively healthy and have 1 or 2 youngsters step up! Ray and Williams should be up and coming studs. Bugs is very solid. Davis is a budding star. C'mon Mathis, Barrimore, Wynn... Someone come in ready to roll!

 

[bradenob]

I think you mean DT...

Oops - you ARE correct

 

[bradenob]

DT and DE are fixed.

Thank you sir - and they make sense - figured Parks would be a DE - hope Mathis is ready to step up?

 

[JoshB]

Just a shot in the dark...
DE - Buggs
NT - Davis/Ray/Dwight
DE - Q. Williams/Ray/Davis
OLB - Jennings/Miller
ILB - Moses
ILB - Mack
OLB - Lewis
CB - Savion Smith
CB - Shy Carter/Diggs
FS - Deionte Thompson
SS - Wright/McKinney
STAR - Shy Carter/Surtain

And hell, offense for shits and giggles...
QB - Hurts/Tua
RB - D. Harris/Jacobs/N. Harris
LT - Williams/Leatherwood
LG - Pierschbacher
C- Williams/Kennedy
RG - Cotton
RT - Wills
Z - Ruggs
X - Jeudy
H - D. Smith
TE - Hentges
HB - Irv Smith


Be shocked if I'm 50% on this lol

 

[EasyTider]

And hell, offense for shits and giggles...
QB - Hurts/Tua
Be shocked if I'm 50% on this lol

:bandhead:

 

[crimsoncorner]

Just a shot in the dark...
DE - Buggs
NT - Davis/Ray/Dwight
DE - Q. Williams/Ray/Davis
OLB - Jennings/Miller
ILB - Moses
ILB - Mack
OLB - Lewis
CB - Savion Smith
CB - Shy Carter/Diggs
FS - Deionte Thompson
SS - Wright/McKinney
STAR - Shy Carter/Surtain

And hell, offense for shits and giggles...
QB - Hurts/Tua
RB - D. Harris/Jacobs/N. Harris
LT - Williams/Leatherwood
LG - Pierschbacher
C- Williams/Kennedy
RG - Cotton
RT - Wills
Z - Ruggs
X - Jeudy
H - D. Smith
TE - Hentges
HB - Irv Smith


Be shocked if I'm 50% on this lol

I think you have it just at least 90% right.

Surtain will play. Don't count out Kyriq McDonald.

Tua will have to lose the QB job.

Williams or Piersbacher at C or LG (interchangeable)

I hope Leatherwood and Wills are the starting T's. Both are better than Womack.

 

[TUSKtimes]

I think Ray could possibly even get some snaps at nose this year. I just dont see Dwight as the answer there. Wynn may be called into action sooner rather than later.
I think its now or never for Ben Davis at insider backer. Mack Wilson has the MIKE locked up and I think if Davis (or another) can step in at the other inside spot, Moses will move outside. Otherwise he will stay inside.

What makes you say Ray at nose? Just curious. I could see Mathis there.

 

[rick4bama]

:bandhead:

Sorry but I think he right here. Now if this was UGA then he would be wrong.

 

[crimsoncorner]

I went back and watched the game again.

Raekwon ran nose at least 4 times with Payne and Hand in the game.

I could see Davis and Mathis run nose and also be in the game at the same time.

Bama ran these formations
1-5-5
1-4-6
2-4-5 (numerous times)
3-4-4
3-3-5

Pruitt ran a myriad of different at Fromm.

Will be interested to see how Tosh uses the front 7.

 

[OldPlayer]

Defensive Line

Lose 4:
5* DL Da'Ron Payne, JR (Natl Rk: 29; Position Rk: 7)
5* DL Da'Shawn Hand, SR (Natl Rk: 5; Position Rk: 1)
4* DL Joshua Frazier, SR (Natl Rk: 85; Position Rk: 6)
3* DL Jamar King, SR (Natl Rk: 54 (JUCO); Position Rk: 4 (JUCO))

Gain 5:
5* DE Eyabi Anoma, FR (Natl Rk: 4; Position Rk: 1)
4* DE Jarez Parks, FR (Natl Rk: 91; Position Rk: 7) Note: Greyshirt in 2017
4* DT Stephon Wynn, FR (Natl Rk: 74; Position Rk: 3)
4* DT Christian Barmore, FR (Natl Rk: 176; Position Rk: 16)

Return 6:
4* DE Isaiah Buggs, SR (Natl Rk: 2 (JUCO); Position Rk: 1 (JUCO))
4* DT Raekwon Davis, JR (Natl Rk: 84; Position Rk: 11)
4* DT Quinnen Williams, RS SO (Natl Rk: 160; Position Rk: 16)
5* DE LaBryan Ray, SO (Natl Rk: 26; Position Rk: 1)
4* DT Phildarian Mathis, RS FR (Natl Rk: 99; Position Rk: 7)
3* DT Johnny Dwight, RS SR (Natl Rk: 429; Position Rk: 32)

Linebackers

Lose 3:
5* LB Rashaan Evans, SR (Natl Rk: 15; Position Rk: 1)
4* LB Shaun Dion Hamilton, SR (Natl Rk: 203; Position Rk: 9)
4* LB Mekhi Brown, RS SO (Natl Rk: 114; Position Rk: 6)

Gain 2:
4* LB Cameron Latu, FR (Natl Rk: 131; Position Rk: 7)
4* LB Jordan Davis, FR (Natl Rk: 108; Position Rk: 6)
3* LB Jaylen Moody, FR (Natl Rk: 697; Position Rk: 49)

Return 13:
5* LB Mack Wilson, JR (Natl Rk: 15; Position Rk: 2)
4* LB Anfernee Jennings, RS JR (Natl Rk: 172; Position Rk: 11)
4* LB Terrell Hall, JR (Natl Rk: 64; Position Rk: 6)
4* LB Christian Miller, RS SR (Natl Rk: 39; Position Rk: 3)
5* LB Dylan Moses, SO (Natl Rk: 13; Position Rk: 2)
0* LB Jamey Mosley, RS SR (Natl Rk: NA; Position Rk: NA)
4* LB Christopher Allen, SO (Natl Rk: 106; Position Rk: 8)
4* LB Keith Holcombe, RS SR (Natl Rk: 281; Position Rk: 27)
5* LB Ben Davis, RS SO (Natl Rk: 10; Position Rk: 1)
4* LB VanDarius Cowan, RS FR (Natl Rk: 83; Position Rk: 5)
4* LB Markail Benton, RS FR (Natl Rk: 98; Position Rk: 7)
4* LB Joshua McMillon, RS JR (Natl Rk: 224; Position Rk: 16)
3* LB Keaton Anderson, RS JR (Natl Rk: 584; Position Rk: 41)

Defensive Backs

Lose 6:
5* DB Minkah Fitzpatrick, JR (Natl Rk: 30; Position Rk: 5)
4* DB Ronnie Harrison, JR (Natl Rk: 197; Position Rk: 12)
4* DB Anthony Averett, RS SR (Natl Rk: 274; Position Rk: 24)
0* DB Levi Wallace, SR (Walk-on)
5* DB Tony Brown, SR (Natl Rk: 9; Position Rk: 2)
4* DB Hootie Jones, SR (Natl Rk: 50; Position Rk: 4)

Gain 5:
5* DB Patrick Surtain, Jr., FR (Natl Rk: 6; Position Rk: 1)
4* DB Saivion Smith, FR (Natl Rk: 2 (JUCO); Position Rk: 1 (JUCO))
4* DB Jalyn Armour-Davis, FR (Natl Rk: 107; Position Rk: 13)
4* DB Josh Jobe, FR (Natl Rk: 109; Position Rk: 14)
3* DB Eddie Smith, FR (Natl Rk: 436; Position Rk: 42)

Return 8:
4* DB Deionte Thompson, RS JR (Natl Rk: 44; Position Rk: 2)
4* DB Trevon Diggs, JR (Natl Rk: 114; Position Rk: 4)
4* DB Shyheim Carter, JR (Natl Rk: 71; Position Rk: 9)
4* DB Daniel Wright, SO (Natl Rk: 118; Position Rk: 15)
4* DB Jared Mayden, JR (Natl Rk: 138; Position Rk: 13)
4* DB Xavier McKinney, SO (Natl Rk: 58; Position Rk: 6)
4* DB Nigel Knott, RS SO (Natl Rk: 62; Position Rk: 7)
3* DB Kyriq McDonald, RS FR (Natl Rk: 474; Position Rk: 46)

I did the math. Alabama averages 4+ stars based on the list (leaving players excluded). We're in trouble (sarcasm).