šŸˆ Dalton's new contract: meaning for AJ

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When I read that the Bengals gave Andy Dalton a contract extension worth $96M over 6 years, my first thought was that AJ will never become a starter at the Bengals; however, on learning that the substantitive part of the contract is a 2 year guarantee and $25M - after which Dalton goes year-to-year - I decided that Dalton's deal may not, after all, be a game changer in terms of wait time for McCarron. Your thoughts?
 
I agree, seems similar to Kaep's contract with the 49ers. GM's and owners are getting smarter with the 2nd contracts aren't they. As far as AJ's concerned, nothing wrong with holding a clipboard for a while why you learn the ropes. If he does the right things, he's one injury away from starting (Kaep is a perfect example of that).

How much money did the Jets give (or waste on) Sanchez...
 
I don't see Andy Dalton as a guy that will be with the Bengals long term. He has his ups and his downs, so I think there is opportunity for McCarron to learn and step in from time to time. Like was said above, nothing wrong with holding a clipboard and learning the ropes. If he has what it takes, he'll get a chance.
 
Mike Brown, the owner of the Bengals will make sure Marvin Lewis sticks with Dalton through the contract. I have lived 2 hours from CinCinnati for 25 years and one thing I learned is Brown will ride a horse unti there is nothing left to ride. A.J., IMO, will not see the field in the regular season unless Dalton gets injured.
 
Sounds as if the Bengals did a safe deal, this will become more complicated for AJ in 3 years if Andy is still the QB. That's when the contract starts getting expensive.

Dalton finished the season as the #5 fantasy QB last year...shocked huh? Last year Dalton finished in the top 10 in completions, yards, and touchdowns. On the flip side, when Dalton gets pressured, he folds like a cheap seat (see playoff game vs San Diego last year).

Dalton's value in fantasy football should diminish this year with Hue Jackson as the OC, Hue likes to run the ball.
 
Via ESPN-

Over the past 3 seasons, he is:

Category Stats Rank
Comp pct. 60.9 17th
Yds per att. 6.97 21st
Touchdowns 80 9th
Total QBR 51.5 23rd

"The Bengals are still waiting for Dalton to be sensational during the postseason, however, when he is 0-3 as a starter.

Dalton, who has thrown for more than 3,000 yards in all three of his seasons, has guided the Bengals to a 30-18 mark during the regular season and three straight trips to the playoffs. His career QBR during the regular season is 51.5; it is 18.1 in postseason play.

Last season, Dalton set career highs with 33 touchdown passes and 20 interceptions as he led the Bengals to the AFC North title with an 11-5 mark."

His playoff stats: 56% completion, 1 TD 6 INT, and 0-3 W/L record.

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Honestly, he's an average QB. Occasionally above-average. Not worth the money but maybe it will serve as a confidence booster to him.
 
Honestly, he's an average QB. Occasionally above-average. Not worth the money but maybe it will serve as a confidence booster to him.

He got average pay too for a few years ($25m for 2 years), they didn't back a brinks truck up to his house. See below (taken from the link)...there are alot more incentives I didn't bother putting below - playoffs, participation, superbowl, etc.

Whats also interesting, he passed on getting injury-only guarantees added to the contract, as it was going to cost him $2m pre-taxes.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...7-million-now-22-million-through-early-march/

2014 ($18m)
$12m signing bonus
$5m roster bonus (due in 3 days)
$968,000 base salary
$200,000 workout bonus

2015
$4m roster bonus (due 3rd day NFL season, in March)
$3m non-guaranteed base
$200,000 workout bonus

2016
$10.5m base
$200,000 workout bonus

2017
$13.1m base
$200,000 workout bonus

2018
$13.7 base
$200,000 workout bonus

2019
$16m base
$200,000 workout bonus

2020
$17.5m base
$200,000 workout bonus
 
http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2014/08/what_does_andy_daltons_six-yea.html

What does Andy Dalton's six-year contract extension mean for AJ McCarron?

When Cincinnati selected AJ McCarron in the fifth round of the 2014 NFL Draft, there was speculation the Bengals picked the former Alabama quarterback as an insurance policy, a competitor or even a replacement for Andy Dalton.

Dalton is one of five quarterbacks in NFL history to lead his team into the playoffs in each of his first three seasons. He, Peyton Manning and Cam Newton are the only QBs with at least 3,000 passing yards in each of their first three seasons. Dalton, Manning and Dan Marino are the only QBs with at least 80 touchdown passes in their first three seasons. Last season, Dalton set Cincinnati records for passing yards and touchdown passes.

But Cincinnati had lost all three of its playoff games with Dalton under center, and he'd thrown one TD pass and six interceptions in those losses. So entering the final season of his first contract, Dalton had some uncertainty attached to his future in Cincinnati.

Cincinnati was described as "an ideal landing spot" for McCarron.

On Monday, the Bengals showed what they thought of Dalton, announcing he had signed a six-year contract extension that could keep him with the team through 2020. Cincinnati did not disclose the financial terms of the deal, but reports indicated it could be worth as much as $115 million if Dalton reaches all the incentives in it. The immediate numbers are a signing bonus of $12 million and a roster bonus in three days of $5 million, dwarfing his base salary for the 2014 season of $986,000. That appears to be the only money guaranteed in the contract.

On Monday, Dalton was the focus of the Bengals' press conference announcing the contract. No mention was made of the other quarterbacks on the Cincinnati roster, and none of the reporters attending asked how the signing affected them.

Marvin Lewis, going into his 12th season as the Bengals' coach, laid out his QB policy, though.

"From when I started on this job, I thought it was important that we knew who the quarterback was going to be all the time," Lewis said. "We've been consistent with that. It's played well for us. If you look across the league, there're very few times you can go in and out of quarterbacks and that team ends up being successful. ... As the guys come into that huddle, they want to know who's leading them. It's our job as coaches always to put everybody in the right positions. But it just takes some of the anxiety out of the way when they know who their quarterback is going to be and who the trigger point is all the time. We've been fortunate with that -- Jon (Kitna) the first year, Carson (Palmer) and now Andy to continue up and follow through. So I think it's a consistent message."

On Cincinnati's first depth chart of training camp, McCarron is listed as the third-team quarterback between eight-year veteran Jason Campbell, a former Auburn star, at No. 2 and No. 4 Matt Scott, who spent last year on the Jacksonville Jaguars practice squad, even though he hasn't practiced with the full team yet in training camp.

The former St. Paul's prep star was placed on the active/non-football injury list before training camp. He was limited in his throwing during OTAs and minicamp. Reports then listed his issue as "arm tightness." When he was put on the non-football injury list, his shoulder was termed the problem area, and reports said the Bengals had put him on a throwing program before returning him to full duty. On Monday, a report on the Bengals' web site listed McCarron's ailment only as "elbow." Whatever the issue, McCarron remains on the non-football injury list with the Bengals heading toward their preseason opener on Thursday night, when they visit the Kansas City Chiefs, a game in which he normally could have expected to see plenty of playing time.
 
Listening to 700 WLW out of Cincy this morning on the way to work, the host was talking about how this contract is a win win for both Dalton and the Bengals. Dalton gets 25 m on the first two years and if he does not produce, the Bengals can get rid of him for practically nothing.

The knock on Dalton from my Bengal fans is that he is 0-3 in the playoffs. Marvin Lewis, the coach is 0-whatever in the playoffs. As I stated in a previous post, Mike Brown will ride the Andy Dalton horse until the end bc he is not a man for change. He is very traditional and to a point stubborn when it comes to his franchise. I guess that is why they had such horrible teams for so long.
 
You guys should read this, you might have a different feeling on AJ's chances. I hinted at some of this stuff above, but Bill goes into more detail in the below article.

Dalton comes from the Kevin Kolb and Blaine Gabbert school, which is a school that should probably be shut down, demolished, and declared a Superfund site. Quarterbacks in this class often struggle to diagnose pressure before the snap and do a subpar job of capturing who exactly is coming at them when defenses disguise their blitzers. Even worse, when they do feel even the tiniest bit of pressure heading in their direction, passers like Kolb and Gabbert bail out of the pocket and frantically sprint toward the sideline like ants trying to escape feet. The coup de grâce is a dangerous pass, one often thrown to the first hint of a friendly uniform without resetting and reexamining the field to see where defenders have settled.

 
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