🏈 Cross Division Opponent Rotation

[holmium]

Does anyone know or understand the cross divisional rotation. We havent played South Carolina since 2010 but have played Kentucky twice since then. Missouri twice since then and I think Florida twice.

 

[BamaFan334]

Not sure how it works, but here it is for us through the next number of years...

ALABAMA - 2014 vs. Florida; 2015 at Georgia; 2016 vs. Kentucky; 2017 at Vanderbilt; 2018 vs. Missouri; 2019 at South Carolina; 2020 vs. Georgia; 2021 at Florida; 2022 vs. Vanderbilt; 2023 at Kentucky; 2024 vs. South Carolina; 2025 at Missouri.

 

[50+yeartidefan]

 

[JoshB]

I don't really think there is a ton of rhyme or reason to it other than having to make it work with 13 other teams at the same time. Getting rid of one of these non-conference games and adding an extra cross-division game would help a lot.

 

[TerryP]

Does anyone know or understand the cross divisional rotation. We havent played South Carolina since 2010 but have played Kentucky twice since then. Missouri twice since then and I think Florida twice.

I can't say the SEC offices screwed it up because I didn't really look at the schedules in detail when A&M and Mizzou were added to the conference. They are the reason it's like this. It's led to a few things one of which we're hearing about, a lot--AU facing UGA and UA on the road during the same season. The schedule adjustment created that talking point.

I've not seen or heard Ole Miss fans complaining about the schedule but they had to play Bama, on the road, two years in a row due to conference expansion as well.

Getting rid of one of these non-conference games and adding an extra cross-division game would help a lot.

We've heard the hypothesis that adding another conference game would mean the SEC has less teams bowl eligible. How true is that?

Off the top of my head, over the last two years, here's what I'm remembering (and likely missing one team...)

2017-- UK finished with 7 wins while losing their bowl game as did Mizzou and A&M. If we take one win away and call it a conference loss they'd still be bowling. The only exception being Ole Miss and they were banned from bowl games.

2016-- The same applies to UK this season as well. They'd still be bowling with an extra conference loss. The same applies to Arkansas. Mississippi State went bowling in '16--shouldn't have been there because they finished the regular season with five wins. Another conference loss for Vandy in '16 and they are sitting at home in the bowl season and the same goes for UofSC.

So, I'm looking at the last two years and see six games that a nine game conference schedule might come into play. Four of the six would be bowling anyway. That's better than half and if a change meant half of the borderline teams didn't make a bowl game so be it.

 

[JoshB]

Does anyone know or understand the cross divisional rotation. We havent played South Carolina since 2010 but have played Kentucky twice since then. Missouri twice since then and I think Florida twice.

I can't say the SEC offices screwed it up because I didn't really look at the schedules in detail when A&M and Mizzou were added to the conference. They are the reason it's like this. It's led to a few things one of which we're hearing about, a lot--AU facing UGA and UA on the road during the same season. The schedule adjustment created that talking point.

I've not seen or heard Ole Miss fans complaining about the schedule but they had to play Bama, on the road, two years in a row due to conference expansion as well.

Getting rid of one of these non-conference games and adding an extra cross-division game would help a lot.

We've heard the hypothesis that adding another conference game would mean the SEC has less teams bowl eligible. How true is that?

Off the top of my head, over the last two years, here's what I'm remembering (and likely missing one team...)

2017-- UK finished with 7 wins while losing their bowl game as did Mizzou and A&M. If we take one win away and call it a conference loss they'd still be bowling. The only exception being Ole Miss and they were banned from bowl games.

2016-- The same applies to UK this season as well. They'd still be bowling with an extra conference loss. The same applies to Arkansas. Mississippi State went bowling in '16--shouldn't have been there because they finished the regular season with five wins. Another conference loss for Vandy in '16 and they are sitting at home in the bowl season and the same goes for UofSC.

So, I'm looking at the last two years and see six games that a nine game conference schedule might come into play. Four of the six would be bowling anyway. That's better than half and if a change meant half of the borderline teams didn't make a bowl game so be it.

I honestly wouldn't be mad at some borderline bad SEC teams not embarrassing the conference in losses to group of five teams in bowl games lol Maybe gives some more Group of 5 schools a chance in bowl games, too.

 

[TerryP]

Does anyone know or understand the cross divisional rotation. We havent played South Carolina since 2010 but have played Kentucky twice since then. Missouri twice since then and I think Florida twice.

I can't say the SEC offices screwed it up because I didn't really look at the schedules in detail when A&M and Mizzou were added to the conference. They are the reason it's like this. It's led to a few things one of which we're hearing about, a lot--AU facing UGA and UA on the road during the same season. The schedule adjustment created that talking point.

I've not seen or heard Ole Miss fans complaining about the schedule but they had to play Bama, on the road, two years in a row due to conference expansion as well.

Getting rid of one of these non-conference games and adding an extra cross-division game would help a lot.

We've heard the hypothesis that adding another conference game would mean the SEC has less teams bowl eligible. How true is that?

Off the top of my head, over the last two years, here's what I'm remembering (and likely missing one team...)

2017-- UK finished with 7 wins while losing their bowl game as did Mizzou and A&M. If we take one win away and call it a conference loss they'd still be bowling. The only exception being Ole Miss and they were banned from bowl games.

2016-- The same applies to UK this season as well. They'd still be bowling with an extra conference loss. The same applies to Arkansas. Mississippi State went bowling in '16--shouldn't have been there because they finished the regular season with five wins. Another conference loss for Vandy in '16 and they are sitting at home in the bowl season and the same goes for UofSC.

So, I'm looking at the last two years and see six games that a nine game conference schedule might come into play. Four of the six would be bowling anyway. That's better than half and if a change meant half of the borderline teams didn't make a bowl game so be it.

I honestly wouldn't be mad at some borderline bad SEC teams not embarrassing the conference in losses to group of five teams in bowl games lol Maybe gives some more Group of 5 schools a chance in bowl games, too.

I'd bump it to a seven win minimum as well. Going .500 doesn't seem like an accomplishment worthy of reward.

"Hey, we didn't have a losing record!"
"Hey, you didn't have a winning record either."

 

[JoshB]

Does anyone know or understand the cross divisional rotation. We havent played South Carolina since 2010 but have played Kentucky twice since then. Missouri twice since then and I think Florida twice.

I can't say the SEC offices screwed it up because I didn't really look at the schedules in detail when A&M and Mizzou were added to the conference. They are the reason it's like this. It's led to a few things one of which we're hearing about, a lot--AU facing UGA and UA on the road during the same season. The schedule adjustment created that talking point.

I've not seen or heard Ole Miss fans complaining about the schedule but they had to play Bama, on the road, two years in a row due to conference expansion as well.

Getting rid of one of these non-conference games and adding an extra cross-division game would help a lot.

We've heard the hypothesis that adding another conference game would mean the SEC has less teams bowl eligible. How true is that?

Off the top of my head, over the last two years, here's what I'm remembering (and likely missing one team...)

2017-- UK finished with 7 wins while losing their bowl game as did Mizzou and A&M. If we take one win away and call it a conference loss they'd still be bowling. The only exception being Ole Miss and they were banned from bowl games.

2016-- The same applies to UK this season as well. They'd still be bowling with an extra conference loss. The same applies to Arkansas. Mississippi State went bowling in '16--shouldn't have been there because they finished the regular season with five wins. Another conference loss for Vandy in '16 and they are sitting at home in the bowl season and the same goes for UofSC.

So, I'm looking at the last two years and see six games that a nine game conference schedule might come into play. Four of the six would be bowling anyway. That's better than half and if a change meant half of the borderline teams didn't make a bowl game so be it.

I honestly wouldn't be mad at some borderline bad SEC teams not embarrassing the conference in losses to group of five teams in bowl games lol Maybe gives some more Group of 5 schools a chance in bowl games, too.

I'd bump it to a seven win minimum as well. Going .500 doesn't seem like an accomplishment worthy of reward.

"Hey, we didn't have a losing record!"
"Hey, you didn't have a winning record either."

Same, and there should NEVER be a team with a losing record in a bowl game. Ever. Everyone talks about the playoffs killing bowl games but the minute a 5-6/5-7 team made it to the bowl game it started killing them.

 

[252BAMA]

I've not seen or heard Ole Miss fans complaining about the schedule but they had to play Bama, on the road, two years in a row due to conference expansion as well.

The original expansion required Bama to play a second straight year in BR in 1992. My brother is still complaining about it.

 

[252BAMA]

"AU facing UGA and UA on the road during the same season. The schedule adjustment created that talking point."

And that schedule adjustment was having UGA play at Auburn in both 2012 and 2013. Which was necessary in order to schedule UGA-Bama without having an uneven 3-5/5-3 H/A situation. They were originally schedule to play in 2012 but were not scheduled until 2015. The SEC could have scheduled UGA at Bama in 2014 (without expansion, the 2012 game would have been at Bama), but that would have meant UGA at the barn-2012, UGA at the barn-2013, UGA at Bama-2014, and UGA at the barn-2015. They would still be whining in Athens if the SEC had done that.

 

[50+yeartidefan]

I've not seen or heard Ole Miss fans complaining about the schedule but they had to play Bama, on the road, two years in a row due to conference expansion as well.

The original expansion required Bama to play a second straight year in BR in 1992. My brother is still complaining about it.

But our record playing at LSU......was...is ....awesome...

 

[TUSKtimes]

We played Georgia in Tuscaloosa in 2007 and haven't had them back in almost 12 years.

 

[252BAMA]

We played Georgia in Tuscaloosa in 2007 and haven't had them back in almost 12 years.

Will be 13 years when they arrive in 2020. Worse with South Carolina. Last played at home in 2009. Will be 15 years when they return in 2024.

 

[holmium]

I know its been discussed a million times but I think a 9th game needs to be added. Waiting five or seven years to play a team in your own conference is ridiculous. We've played Virginia Tech more than SC in the recent past.

 

[50+yeartidefan]

2020 are good home conference tickets
AU
UGA
Texas AnM
Miss State

 

[BamaFan334]

We played Georgia in Tuscaloosa in 2007 and haven't had them back in almost 12 years.

Will be 13 years when they arrive in 2020. Worse with South Carolina. Last played at home in 2009. Will be 15 years when they return in 2024.

I was thinking you play each team eveey eight years, so with home and away, it almost calculates with 13, but that was my thinking before they added Missouri and Texas A&M. Which we played Missouri at Missouri back in 2012 I believe and they come here in 2018. Very weird. Maybe it's like a snake Fantasy draft. #1 pick goes firat, but #10 gets #10 and #11 picks and #1 gets #20?

 

[TUSKtimes]

I was thinking you play each team eveey eight years, so with home and away, it almost calculates with 13, but that was my thinking before they added Missouri and Texas A&M. Which we played Missouri at Missouri back in 2012 I believe and they come here in 2018. Very weird. Maybe it's like a snake Fantasy draft. #1 pick goes firat, but #10 gets #10 and #11 picks and #1 gets #20?

The SEC hasn't had any problem putting Florida on our schedule 3 times since the 2009 SECCG. I thought when LSU was so vocal about having to play the Gators every year while we played Tennessee, watching us get a heavy dose of Florida was kinda convenient. After all those bye weeks that kept piling up with Bama's opponents, I do believe the SEC office is more than capable of playing politics.

 

[50+yeartidefan]

I was thinking you play each team eveey eight years, so with home and away, it almost calculates with 13, but that was my thinking before they added Missouri and Texas A&M. Which we played Missouri at Missouri back in 2012 I believe and they come here in 2018. Very weird. Maybe it's like a snake Fantasy draft. #1 pick goes firat, but #10 gets #10 and #11 picks and #1 gets #20?

The SEC hasn't had any problem putting Florida on our schedule 3 times since the 2009 SECCG. I thought when LSU was so vocal about having to play the Gators every year while we played Tennessee, watching us get a heavy dose of Florida was kinda convenient. After all those bye weeks that kept piling up with Bama's opponents, I do believe the SEC office is more than capable of playing politics.

In regards to bye weeks....doesnt seem to have had much negative effect...lol
But is shitty for sec office to allow...

In regards to having Florida....rather have them extra times than vandy or KY....
With the crap non conference stuff Bama has...a Florida or USCe....of UGA makes our schedule more desirable.....

 

[TUSKtimes]

In regards to bye weeks....doesnt seem to have had much negative effect...lol
But is shitty for sec office to allow...

Bye weeks were a big problem. The notorious 10-3 season in 2010 was the year we had 6 opponents coming off a bye week before they played us. Mal Moore had to tell the SEC big boys that's enough.

In regards to having Florida....rather have them extra times than vandy or KY....
With the crap non conference stuff Bama has...a Florida or USCe....of UGA makes our schedule more desirable.....

As far as Florida is concerned, harder on them than us but for my money, if anyone has felt like the sacred cow of the SEC it was Mark Richt and Georgia. They seem to have avoided the landmines everyone else was stepping in. And with the bad football that the east division was playing, it's more than a wonder they couldn't take better advantage. I hope Kirby doesn't get the same star treatment.

 

[252BAMA]

I was thinking you play each team eveey eight years, so with home and away, it almost calculates with 13, but that was my thinking before they added Missouri and Texas A&M. Which we played Missouri at Missouri back in 2012 I believe and they come here in 2018. Very weird. Maybe it's like a snake Fantasy draft. #1 pick goes firat, but #10 gets #10 and #11 picks and #1 gets #20?

The SEC hasn't had any problem putting Florida on our schedule 3 times since the 2009 SECCG. I thought when LSU was so vocal about having to play the Gators every year while we played Tennessee, watching us get a heavy dose of Florida was kinda convenient. After all those bye weeks that kept piling up with Bama's opponents, I do believe the SEC office is more than capable of playing politics.

Games against Florida in 2010-11 were on the old rotation schedule. Georgia was to rotate on in 2012-13. The game against Florida in 2014 occurred because, as I previously stated, the SEC was not going to send UGA to the barn in 2012-13, to Bama in 2014, and then back to the barn in 2015. And they sure weren't going to send Bama to UGA in 2014, leaving Bama with 3 home games and 5 road games.