🏈 Could kiffins departure be because of??????

[BigAl]

Do you feel like Kiffin and Saban have had a falling out about the play calling? Not sure if this has been discussed? Delete is nessessary...

 

[sean]

i think it's quite possible.

with the talent we have, we should definitely be more potent on offense. i'm not saying we're anemic, but we should definitely be more dynamic. bubble screens can only take you so far until opponents figure you out and put a stop to them.

i realize we're playing with a true freshman at qb, but one of the oc's jobs, as well being the qb coach, is to develop the qb. at this point, it doesn't look like he's done that too well.

nothing against Jalen, he is certainly talented. but if his coach / teacher can't get him the proper development, then what's the point? he has raw talent that needs to be developed. imo, that's not happening at a quick-enough pace.

 

[Sgt. Lincoln Osiris]

Sark is more of the QB whisperer than Kiffin.

 

[alabama mike]

All Kiffin had to do was run the ball against Washington but no he kept trying the play action pass.

 

[Che Boludo]

All Kiffin had to do was run the ball against Washington but no he kept trying the play action pass.

This kill me. CLK has done an excellent job with play calling all year as he has worked to mitigate some areas in experience.

Isn't it just as likely that the semi-final game was a mixture of poor execution and dumb penalties that killed rhythm and drives and/or the lack of any real need to show more than they had to based on Udub's own offensive challenge than CLKs lack of ability as a playcaller.

This year saw a true fresh-led offense go on to be the 2nd most productive total offense and highest production rushing offense in the Saban era. Not bad for an inexperienced QB still developing his skill set and playing with a limited playbook. So, something is working.

As a result of his piss poor play calling and "lack of a rushing attack" against Power 5 competition, Bama has the #2 (Harris - highest ranked RB in the stat at 7.6 YPC), 7 (Scarborough), and 8 (Jacobs) rushers in YPC in the conference and Hurts is 19th ... yes, 25% of the SEC's top rushers in terms of YPC against P5 teams are wearing Crimson.

He expertly works with personnel. This is his 3rd yr and every team has been completely different in style. No other OC CNS has had creates/exploits opportunities over the course of game and makes adjusments like CLK.

God forbid what would happen if he knew what he was doing.

 

[OldPlayer]

I'm sure that Kiffin and Saban haven't seen eye-to-eye during his tenure, but his departure isn't based on performance. Reaching the CFP each year over three years with a rookie QB says a lot. Saban wouldn't wait until the end of the season to "correct" Kiffin's play calling. That's what timeouts are for.

 

[Max]

All Kiffin had to do was run the ball against Washington but no he kept trying the play action pass.

14 passing attempts.

 

[TheChief]

The sacks don't count as passing attempts, if I'm not mistaken. And while the numbers show Bama rushed much more than passed (50-14), I think some of the angst comes from seeing a series where Jalen tries to throw the ball three times without a true rushing attempt, and we have to kick a field goal or punt. Bama leaned heavily on the run later in the game it seemed.

It just seems to me like the run should set up the pass, more times than not. I understand Kiffin sees defensive alignments where under normal circumstances the Tide would call for a pass. With Jalen being a freshman those circumstances don't seem like a good situation for him to throw.

But hey, it's hard to argue with guys that have won 26 in a row and sit on the verge of back-to-back titles and five out of the last eight. They know a heckuva lot more than me.

 

[Che Boludo]

But hey, it's hard to argue with guys that have won 26 in a row and sit on the verge of back-to-back titles ... They know a heckuva lot more than me.

Most of the Kiffin haters should only read this part.

The way CLK calls games is almost genius. It's a crossbreed of chess and poker. Unlike his reputation, it's not brash. It's methodical.

The feel of a python slowly squeezing the life from its victim is frustrating for some and delightful for others.

I'm just of the camp that jet sweeps, screens, and perimeter running aren't fruitless. They are a means to an end. That end has been 3 of the most offensively successful years in Bama's history.

 

[Tidestalker]

14 passing attempts.

14 Pass attempts, a lot more pass plays. The freshman QB rarely gets it off on time, so instead he ended up with 19 rush attempts.

 

[Tidestalker]

Most of the Kiffin haters should only read this part.

The way CLK calls games is almost genius. It's a crossbreed of chess and poker. Unlike his reputation, it's not brash. It's methodical.

The feel of a python slowly squeezing the life from its victim is frustrating for some and delightful for others.

I'm just of the camp that jet sweeps, screens, and perimeter running aren't fruitless. They are a means to an end. That end has been 3 of the most offensively successful years in Bama's history.

I just can't see what you're seeing. Do you not see our defense handing the ball to this guy with great field position time and time again, and the offense not only not producing, but literally going backwards? Sloppy penalties, bad rhythm, late play calls. Most all of which is completely unnecessary.

With a fumble recovery and Pick 6 the D accounts for 10 points. That leaves 14 for the offense. Washington has a good D don't get me wrong... But our offense is literally the most talented in the nation, they account for 2 TD's, and this guy is playing chess and poker?! LOL.

C'mon man it's not that complicated. This is the golden era of defense in all of football history and Lane happens to be a beneficiary. The last 3 OC's won titles and the next one will as well, barring a Saban retirement.

 

[TheChief]

Most of the Kiffin haters should only read this part.

The way CLK calls games is almost genius. It's a crossbreed of chess and poker. Unlike his reputation, it's not brash. It's methodical.

The feel of a python slowly squeezing the life from its victim is frustrating for some and delightful for others.

I'm just of the camp that jet sweeps, screens, and perimeter running aren't fruitless. They are a means to an end. That end has been 3 of the most offensively successful years in Bama's history.

Calvin Ridley - 1 touch (a reception) 6 yards
Ardarius Stewart - 2 rushes for 10 yards

Unless both of these guys are secretly injured, Lane's at the wrong chess board.

 

[Che Boludo]

Calvin Ridley - 1 touch (a reception) 6 yards
Ardarius Stewart - 2 rushes for 10 yards

Unless both of these guys are secretly injured, Lane's at the wrong chess board.

I'm not sure it's Lane in this conversation that isn't at the chess board.

On a big stage with a true fresh QB against a quality D with an excellent back 7 that contributed to 33 turnovers on the year and the nation's best turnover margin going into the game, let's design a game plan that puts the game on our QBs arm. That sounds solid.

CLK does more than evolve year to year. He evolves game to game to exploit what he sees on tape, adjusts it to fit the flow of the game, while changing personnel and breaking tendencies to force opposing Ds to increase their own prep.

The game opened sloppy and didn't get much better in terms of execution for the offense, which affected rhythm/timing and playcalling. So, how did they adjust to keep a young QB from trying to press and place him in bad situations, enter Bo Scarborough (the 4th leading rusher coming into the game) and a 50 rush game.

There were only 14 throws because 15 weren't needed.

CLK finally gives the "run the damn ball crowd" what it wants and dominates a very good defense. In spite of all the negative plays and miscommunications, the team didn't gift UW a bad turnover in crucial situations. Most importantly, they did it all without having to show its hand or any other real tweaks/adjustments that were made over the break, which would aid Clemsons prep ... yet, surprise, we still aren't happy.

 

[JoshB]

I just can't see what you're seeing. Do you not see our defense handing the ball to this guy with great field position time and time again, and the offense not only not producing, but literally going backwards? Sloppy penalties, bad rhythm, late play calls. Most all of which is completely unnecessary..

I saw that happen once...

 

[TheChief]

I'll repeat: Lane wasn't at the correct chess board.

Think Saban agrees?

 

[EasyTider]

I'll repeat: Lane wasn't at the correct chess board.

Think Saban agrees?

Saturday afternoon he was playing

That or Chinese checkers

 

[Che Boludo]

I'll repeat: Lane wasn't at the correct chess board.

Think Saban agrees?

Obviously, you are unaware of the master strategy that played out in this particular game of Chess to which the First Round of CFP was only a set of moves to setup the checkmate in the greater game at hand.

ClK was told to call a vanilla game against Udub and only show just enough to get the W.

It was decided post-SEC CG that CLK would stay through the playoffs. What was left out of the public speak was the caveat that that arrangement was solely contingent on getting tOSU in the CG. ClK has long hated Meyer and wanted a chance to make up for the 2014 CFP loss where he blew a lead and failed to control the game as an OC.

Sark was tagged to fully concentrate on a Clemson game plan and nothing else. CLK was out of tricks with nothing really for his ego to gain with another win over Clemson... so, Clemson won and CLK was off to bikini land...as designed.

Sark steps in to install a game plan 1 month in the making. CNS fills the air with staged clutter as all of Clemson's prep for CLK tendencies carried over from last year is now useless.

Master play by the master.

Surprised you guys didn't catch on; most of you are usually all over such things. Now, back to the porch Grandpa, you are about to get triple jumped.

:bamadance::moon:

 

[Tidestalker]

Obviously, you are unaware of the master strategy that played out in this particular game of Chess to which the First Round of CFP was only a set of moves to setup the checkmate in the greater game at hand.

ClK was told to call a vanilla game against Udub and only show just enough to get the W.

It was decided post-SEC CG that CLK would stay through the playoffs. What was left out of the public speak was the caveat that that arrangement was solely contingent on getting tOSU in the CG. ClK has long hated Meyer and wanted a chance to make up for the 2014 CFP loss where he blew a lead and failed to control the game as an OC.

Sark was tagged to fully concentrate on a Clemson game plan and nothing else. CLK was out of tricks with nothing really for his ego to gain with another win over Clemson... so, Clemson won and CLK was off to bikini land...as designed.

Sark steps in to install a game plan 1 month in the making. CNS fills the air with staged clutter as all of Clemson's prep for CLK tendencies carried over from last year is now useless.

Master play by the master.

Surprised you guys didn't catch on; most of you are usually all over such things. Now, back to the porch Grandpa, you are about to get triple jumped.

:bamadance::moon:

Kidding?

 

[Che Boludo]

Kidding?

I can't tell anymore...

 

[JoshB]

Obviously, you are unaware of the master strategy that played out in this particular game of Chess to which the First Round of CFP was only a set of moves to setup the checkmate in the greater game at hand.

ClK was told to call a vanilla game against Udub and only show just enough to get the W.

It was decided post-SEC CG that CLK would stay through the playoffs. What was left out of the public speak was the caveat that that arrangement was solely contingent on getting tOSU in the CG. ClK has long hated Meyer and wanted a chance to make up for the 2014 CFP loss where he blew a lead and failed to control the game as an OC.

Sark was tagged to fully concentrate on a Clemson game plan and nothing else. CLK was out of tricks with nothing really for his ego to gain with another win over Clemson... so, Clemson won and CLK was off to bikini land...as designed.

Sark steps in to install a game plan 1 month in the making. CNS fills the air with staged clutter as all of Clemson's prep for CLK tendencies carried over from last year is now useless.

Master play by the master.

Surprised you guys didn't catch on; most of you are usually all over such things. Now, back to the porch Grandpa, you are about to get triple jumped.

:bamadance::moon:

You should apply to Infowars with those types of conspiracy theories.