🏈 Colt McCoy may win the heisman but...

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So I was checking out Ingram vs McCoy today, but then I found something even more interesting.

We know McCoy as a good QB, heck I wanted the Titan's to draft him early on. Going into this game we will hear alot about him, BUT.....

He is a crappy big game QB, atleast in 2009. Crappy may be putting it nice too, I mean if he played here AJ McCarron might be starting early.

For a good way to show this, I decided to pit his numbers against McElroy's


I selected 4 of the biggest games for each team, including all currently ranked opponents or rivals.

Colt McCoy
Att CMP YDs % LNG TD INT RAT
<TABLE class=tablehead cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=3 sizset="153" sizcache="0"><TBODY sizset="153" sizcache="0"><TR class=oddrow align=right sizset="157" sizcache="0"><TD align=left sizset="157" sizcache="0">Texas Tech</TD><TD align=left sizset="158" sizcache="0">W 34-24 </TD><TD>24</TD><TD>34</TD><TD>205</TD><TD>70.6</TD><TD>25</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>2</TD><TD>119.17</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
<TABLE class=tablehead cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=3 sizset="153" sizcache="0"><TBODY sizset="153" sizcache="0"><TR class=evenrow align=right sizset="163" sizcache="0"><TD align=left></TD><TD align=left sizset="163" sizcache="0">Oklahoma</TD><TD align=left sizset="164" sizcache="0">W 16-13 </TD><TD>21</TD><TD>39</TD><TD>127</TD><TD>53.8</TD><TD>14</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>84.53</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
<TABLE class=tablehead cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=3 sizset="153" sizcache="0"><TBODY sizset="153" sizcache="0"><TR class=evenrow align=right sizset="167" sizcache="0"><TD align=left></TD><TD align=left sizset="167" sizcache="0">@Oklahoma State</TD><TD align=left sizset="168" sizcache="0">W 41-14 </TD><TD>16</TD><TD>21</TD><TD>171</TD><TD>76.2</TD><TD>44</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>160.31</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
<TABLE class=tablehead cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=3 sizset="153" sizcache="0"><TBODY sizset="153" sizcache="0"><TR class=oddrow align=right sizset="177" sizcache="0"><TD align=left sizset="177" sizcache="0">@Nebraska</TD><TD align=left sizset="178" sizcache="0">W 13-12 </TD><TD>20</TD><TD>36</TD><TD>184</TD><TD>55.6</TD><TD>25</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>3</TD><TD>81.82</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>TOTAL YDs 687 TDs 3 INTs 6
AVG % 64.5 RAT 111.45



Greg McElroy
Att CMP YDs % LNG TD INT RAT
<TABLE class=tablehead cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=3 sizset="154" sizcache="0"><TBODY sizset="154" sizcache="0"><TR class=oddrow align=right sizset="154" sizcache="0"><TD align=left sizset="154" sizcache="0">@Virginia Tech</TD><TD align=left sizset="155" sizcache="0">W 34-24 </TD><TD>15</TD><TD>30</TD><TD>230</TD><TD>50.0</TD><TD>48</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>118.74</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
<TABLE class=tablehead cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=3 sizset="154" sizcache="0"><TBODY sizset="154" sizcache="0"><TR class=oddrow align=right sizset="170" sizcache="0"><TD align=left></TD><TD align=left sizset="170" sizcache="0">LSU</TD><TD align=left sizset="171" sizcache="0">W 24-15 </TD><TD>19</TD><TD>34</TD><TD>276</TD><TD>55.9</TD><TD>73</TD><TD>2</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>137.60</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
<TABLE class=tablehead cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=3 sizset="154" sizcache="0"><TBODY sizset="154" sizcache="0"><TR class=evenrow align=right sizset="176" sizcache="0"><TD align=left sizset="176" sizcache="0">@Auburn</TD><TD align=left sizset="177" sizcache="0">W 26-21 </TD><TD>21</TD><TD>31</TD><TD>218</TD><TD>67.7</TD><TD>33</TD><TD>2</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>148.10</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
<TABLE class=tablehead cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=3 sizset="154" sizcache="0"><TBODY sizset="154" sizcache="0"><TR class=oddrow align=right sizset="178" sizcache="0"><TD align=left sizset="178" sizcache="0">Florida</TD><TD align=left sizset="179" sizcache="0">W 32-13 </TD><TD>12</TD><TD>18</TD><TD>239</TD><TD>66.7</TD><TD>69</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>196.54</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

TOTAL YDs 963 TDs 6 INTs 2
AVG % 60.07 RAT 150.22

So ill tell you what I think...

Not only is Ingram a better Heisman candidate, but I think McElroy is a flat out better quarterback.
 
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joeman546 said:
So I was checking out Ingram vs McCoy today, but then I found something even more interesting.

We know McCoy as a good QB, heck I wanted the Titan's to draft him early on. Going into this game we will hear alot about him, BUT.....

He is a crappy big game QB, atleast in 2009. Crappy may be putting it nice too, I mean if he played here AJ McCarron might be starting early.

For a good way to show this, I decided to pit his numbers against McElroy's


I selected 4 of the biggest games for each team, including all currently ranked opponents or rivals.

Colt McCoy
Att CMP YDs % LNG TD INT RAT
<TABLE class=tablehead cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=3 sizset="153" sizcache="0"><TBODY sizset="153" sizcache="0"><TR class=oddrow align=right sizset="157" sizcache="0"><TD align=left sizset="157" sizcache="0">Texas Tech</TD><TD align=left sizset="158" sizcache="0">W 34-24 </TD><TD>24</TD><TD>34</TD><TD>205</TD><TD>70.6</TD><TD>25</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>2</TD><TD>119.17</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
<TABLE class=tablehead cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=3 sizset="153" sizcache="0"><TBODY sizset="153" sizcache="0"><TR class=evenrow align=right sizset="163" sizcache="0"><TD align=left></TD><TD align=left sizset="163" sizcache="0">Oklahoma</TD><TD align=left sizset="164" sizcache="0">W 16-13 </TD><TD>21</TD><TD>39</TD><TD>127</TD><TD>53.8</TD><TD>14</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>84.53</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
<TABLE class=tablehead cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=3 sizset="153" sizcache="0"><TBODY sizset="153" sizcache="0"><TR class=evenrow align=right sizset="167" sizcache="0"><TD align=left></TD><TD align=left sizset="167" sizcache="0">@Oklahoma State</TD><TD align=left sizset="168" sizcache="0">W 41-14 </TD><TD>16</TD><TD>21</TD><TD>171</TD><TD>76.2</TD><TD>44</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>160.31</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
<TABLE class=tablehead cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=3 sizset="153" sizcache="0"><TBODY sizset="153" sizcache="0"><TR class=oddrow align=right sizset="177" sizcache="0"><TD align=left sizset="177" sizcache="0">@Nebraska</TD><TD align=left sizset="178" sizcache="0">W 13-12 </TD><TD>20</TD><TD>36</TD><TD>184</TD><TD>55.6</TD><TD>25</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>3</TD><TD>81.82</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>TOTAL YDs 687 TDs 3 INTs 6
AVG % 64.5 RAT 111.45



Greg McElroy
Att CMP YDs % LNG TD INT RAT
<TABLE class=tablehead cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=3 sizset="154" sizcache="0"><TBODY sizset="154" sizcache="0"><TR class=oddrow align=right sizset="154" sizcache="0"><TD align=left sizset="154" sizcache="0">@Virginia Tech</TD><TD align=left sizset="155" sizcache="0">W 34-24 </TD><TD>15</TD><TD>30</TD><TD>230</TD><TD>50.0</TD><TD>48</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>118.74</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
<TABLE class=tablehead cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=3 sizset="154" sizcache="0"><TBODY sizset="154" sizcache="0"><TR class=oddrow align=right sizset="170" sizcache="0"><TD align=left></TD><TD align=left sizset="170" sizcache="0">LSU</TD><TD align=left sizset="171" sizcache="0">W 24-15 </TD><TD>19</TD><TD>34</TD><TD>276</TD><TD>55.9</TD><TD>73</TD><TD>2</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>137.60</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
<TABLE class=tablehead cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=3 sizset="154" sizcache="0"><TBODY sizset="154" sizcache="0"><TR class=evenrow align=right sizset="176" sizcache="0"><TD align=left sizset="176" sizcache="0">@Auburn</TD><TD align=left sizset="177" sizcache="0">W 26-21 </TD><TD>21</TD><TD>31</TD><TD>218</TD><TD>67.7</TD><TD>33</TD><TD>2</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>148.10</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
<TABLE class=tablehead cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=3 sizset="154" sizcache="0"><TBODY sizset="154" sizcache="0"><TR class=oddrow align=right sizset="178" sizcache="0"><TD align=left sizset="178" sizcache="0">Florida</TD><TD align=left sizset="179" sizcache="0">W 32-13 </TD><TD>12</TD><TD>18</TD><TD>239</TD><TD>66.7</TD><TD>69</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>196.54</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

TOTAL YDs 963 TDs 6 INTs 2
AVG % 60.07 RAT 150.22

So ill tell you what I think...

Not only is Ingram a better Heisman candidate, but I think McElroy is a flat out better quarterback.
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Looks like it. But I'll wait to give my final opinion after the BCS championship game. :smile:
 
Well the only thing is that McCoy will have regional bias on the west coast. It's all going to come down to what Mark places in the North East, West and South West.
 
Indeed, but as for myself I had first considered making it 5 teams, Texas A&M would be on there. But if you wanted to include a game vs a team with no D, you also have to include Arkansas.

Then you see that it really doesnt make a significant impact on the totals or averages, as that was McElroys best game probably. So I decided to omit it.

Its unfortunate Ingram had a bad game and McCoy his best, but something akin to the reverse happened Saturday too, at the very least you cancel it out and go back to Ingram being ahead. But the thing is, in terms of stepping up to being a bigtime player. alot of people, including our QB which might be considered a weak link in comparison, had a much better year than him.

As I looked at his other numbers against cupcakes and the vanderbilts of the world, I just felt embarrassed to factor them in.
 
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