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[Rolltide24]

Money and Power. Keep in mind, the ACC has cracks all in their foundation at this point.

Agree, but it’s sad that money and power drive this and not results in the field. The last ounce of purity has left the game. I feel the same about the SEC and/or Bama trying to use leverage to make changes. Win on the field, don’t throw influence and money around to get your way. Schedule an ACC team and a Big 12 team each year and beat them straight up. Then win your conference games. If you want to be the best, you can’t lose so much. Other teams handled the teams on their schedule better than we did, simple fact. Agnostic to who you scheduled, you have to win.

I believe we lost to more unranked teams than anyone in the CFP this year. That fact hurts us big time. I counted 9 of the 12 teams that didn’t lose to an unranked team. Tennessee lost to 1, Clemson to 1, and Arizona State 2 (lost to K State who was ranked the final week of season). So we lost to as many unranked teams as 11 of the 12 teams had lost too combined.

 

[Crimson&WhiteGecko]

Facts support the statements, just look at the rankings...there's obvious benefits to having a soft as Charmin Schedule. Ask SMU, ask Indiana, ask Penn State, ask Texas, ask Notre Dame, ask Boise State. Even the Big 10 had easy schedules this year. Your logic is incredibly flawed and unsupported by fact on that regard. That being said, I DO NOT condone this, but I also won't be the idiot who doesn't adapt to the landscape.

You're also arguing that being the standard and winning is the most important. It's a Risk vs Reward analysis and it's simple understanding the system. I don't think we SHOULD keep it this way, but I also don't think we (The SEC) should continue to put ourselves in dangerous positions when nobody else does. I don't think Greg Sankey or the SEC agree with you that the Beauty Pageant of "We have tough schedules" matters in the grand scheme of things, they'd much rather have more people in the CFB Playoffs than worry about the strength of their schedules.

While I understand that in a perfect world everyone would want to play tougher competition and get better, the likelihood of the ACC or Big 12 changing their system is unlikely. They will continue to try to sneak teams into the playoffs by scheduling and playing weak competition because having people get in is a bigger boost for the conference than caring about regular season watchability. They understand that the exposure gained will equate to views and recruiting wins over time. The SEC and Big 10 understand this, therefore they will not continue to let this happen. Either it will be done by removing those conferences automatic bids like Brandon said, or it will be done through changing their schedules to be easier.

I'm in complete agreement with your last paragraph. 100%. This has been going on all the way back to the Florida States of the 90s.

However, you are completely ignoring the last 5 national champions. These aren't teams that played garbage schedules. 4 of the 5 were against the solid competition of the SEC. Also, Jawja AND Texas have something to say about this year. They stiffened up & got better. Jawja especially, they have played a damn hard schedule. They are going to destroy the next team. Book it. It could be argued the same with Oregon. Both teams took care if business & they are just chill right now, ready to heal up for the next three weeks. These teams sure aren't bemoaning SMU or Indiana or ND or Boise. They are focused on themselves. To hell with everyone else.

Granted there is a slew of teams that made the playoff because they have a relatively easy schedule. But so what? That will not change. They are going to get slaughtered by the real quality teams. That will not change. And I don't want Bama to be a part of any of that crap unless they are one of the badass teams who is taking the teams all to the woodshed.

Remember the goal is to have a football program that destroys everyone no matter how the other teams got there & to be a team that sure as hell doesn't leave it up to a committee to eek them in the playoffs only to get our ass clapped by a team that is built for a brawl who's had 3 weeks to heal up. HARD PASS.

 

[TerryP]

Sheridan stole aspects of her character - attitude and such - from Reilly's character in Flight.

Where does the writing for the attorney come from in his latest?

He's been around some strong women.

 

[Justneedme81]

Excellent points everyone.

 

[Brandon Van de Graaff]

Agree, but it’s sad that money and power drive this and not results in the field. The last ounce of purity has left the game. I feel the same about the SEC and/or Bama trying to use leverage to make changes. Win on the field, don’t throw influence and money around to get your way. Schedule an ACC team and a Big 12 team each year and beat them straight up. Then win your conference games. If you want to be the best, you can’t lose so much. Other teams handled the teams on their schedule better than we did, simple fact. Agnostic to who you scheduled, you have to win.

I believe we lost to more unranked teams than anyone in the CFP this year. That fact hurts us big time. I counted 9 of the 12 teams that didn’t lose to an unranked team. Tennessee lost to 1, Clemson to 1, and Arizona State 2 (lost to K State who was ranked the final week of season). So we lost to as many unranked teams as 11 of the 12 teams had lost too combined.

I don't disagree, but it's just human nature that entities are going to protect their own, and in this case where Sankey holds a string to the puppet, he's going to ensure that his schools get a fair shake. And the AD's and school presidents will hold him to it. I've mentioned this before, but we (the SEC) almost saw what happened last time we allowed another group(s) to make big decisions for the group... it nearly cost us the 2020 season (and Alabama a national championship). That was a key turning point in the power wielded by the SEC... much like today, IMO, marks another shift in terms of where the playoff road leads.

 

[Justneedme81]

I don't disagree, but it's just human nature that entities are going to protect their own, and in this case where Sankey holds a string to the puppet, he's going to ensure that his schools get a fair shake. And the AD's and school presidents will hold him to it. I've mentioned this before, but we (the SEC) almost saw what happened last time we allowed another group(s) to make big decisions for the group... it nearly cost us the 2020 season (and Alabama a national championship). That was a key turning point in the power wielded by the SEC... much like today, IMO, marks another shift in terms of where the playoff road leads.

@Brandon Van de Graaff Do you think Manuel probably realized he's going down in history as the guy who blew everything up because he didn't do what he said he was going to do?

 

[50+yeartidefan]

At the end of the day we support the team as a whole. I don't care who starts in the bowl game. I simply don't care if Milroe plays or not. I'm tired of people being harsh on Milroe. All of the losses we had this year, this was on the team as a whole.

Ok. Few support more than i do or longer than i have. Period

I was just thinking. Meanless bowl game gives opportunity to play others should they have a chance.
If milroe wants to play. Its his team. Of course he goes
Should he not. Start getting ready for 25. And give others a chance.

 

[Brandon Van de Graaff]

@Brandon Van de Graaff Do you think Manuel probably realized he's going down in history as the guy who blew everything up because he didn't do what he said he was going to do?

A conspiracy theorist could say he did it on purpose... haha. He was in a tough spot though, IMO. You're having to answer all these questions and hypotheticals and there's so many data points and scenarios that can play out, that you end up talking in circles. He can stand there and defend one team's resume and then quickly walk right into a situation where he's also defending another similar team that is 10 spots behind. I don't envy the position. Being on the committee would probably be fun, but not having to be the guy that answers all the questions...

 

[Justneedme81]

A conspiracy theorist could say he did it on purpose... haha. He was in a tough spot though, IMO. You're having to answer all these questions and hypotheticals and there's so many data points and scenarios that can play out, that you end up talking in circles. He can stand there and defend one team's resume and then quickly walk right into a situation where he's also defending another similar team that is 10 spots behind. I don't envy the position. Being on the committee would probably be fun, but not having to be the guy that answers all the questions...

Yup. I just don't think he handled it well. But what's done is done. I think we need to do away with Committee going forward. It doesn't help anymore.

 

[Brandon Van de Graaff]

Ok. Few support more than i do or longer than i have. Period

I was just thinking. Meanless bowl game gives opportunity to play others should they have a chance.
If milroe wants to play. Its his team. Of course he goes
Should he not. Start getting ready for 25. And give others a chance.

I would assume Milroe will skip it and start training for the combine, but I've not heard one way or another as of yet.

 

[Brandon Van de Graaff]

Yup. I just don't think he handled it well. But what's done is done. I think we need to do away with Committee going forward. It doesn't help anymore.

Could happen. Not sure I'd say it's likely as of now, but it's absolutely an option I believe.

 

[Rolltide24]

Remember that time Bryce and Will and crew stayed on to play the bowl game? That was admirable and commitment. I don’t know if we’ll see that again.

 

[im4uainva]

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[24and7]

Nick Saban questions strength of schedule factor in CFP as Alabama misses field

Former Alabama Crimson Tide head coach Nick Saban wondered if strength of schedule was really a factor when it came to the College Football Playoff.

www.foxnews.com

 

[Rsedge72]

Here’s a question. May have already bean discussed but I missed it.

Say Saban was still the coach and the outcomes of the games where identical.

Does bama get the nod/benefit of the doubt?

 

[Brandon Van de Graaff]

Here’s a question. May have already bean discussed but I missed it.

Say Saban was still the coach and the outcomes of the games where identical.

Does bama get the nod/benefit of the doubt?

Good question, and while impossible to answer for sure, I'd say yes.

 

[BamaFan334]

Here’s a question. May have already bean discussed but I missed it.

Say Saban was still the coach and the outcomes of the games where identical.

Does bama get the nod/benefit of the doubt?

My wife and I spoke about this earlier. We both agreed a most definite yes.

 

[BamaFisher]

And here it comes…

Alabama AD Greg Byrne to reassess scheduling after Tide CFP snub

Here's how Alabama athletics director Greg Byrne reacted after Alabama football was left out of the College Football Playoff.

www.al.com

 

[alabama mike]

Gotta handle business on the road. Shouldn't have lost to Vanderbilt or Oklahoma. Inexcusable losses.

This says it all. We win either game, we are in the top 12.

 

[Scrape&Search1032]

And here it comes…

Alabama AD Greg Byrne to reassess scheduling after Tide CFP snub

Here's how Alabama athletics director Greg Byrne reacted after Alabama football was left out of the College Football Playoff.

www.al.com

As well it should. Why play all these tough games if they don't mean anything? Fuck it, let's coast through.