🏈 CECIL HURT: I’ll say it again, Alabama needs to bring in a big-name opponent

[Brandon Van de Graaff]

Cecil, the fanbase, the AD, and everyone else in the state of Alabama should stay as far out of CNS's path as possible. The idea anyone would second guess CNS, and what he thinks is best for the program is embarrassing.

If Cecil is writing an article like that, it’s almost a given he’s been told a home-and-home deal is in the works.

 

[Tidestalker]

If Cecil is writing an article like that, it’s almost a given he’s been told a home-and-home deal is in the works.

Exactly. If he's writing any type of "breaking news" or "in depth" article regarding the team/roster/future... It's via Saban. Finebaum used to always give him ish about it back in the day and he was right.

I'll even go as far as to say I believe he had some planted questions to start Saban rants in pressers... Those 2 are thick as thieves (really don't know what that means but it sounds great in movies)

 

[T&B]

'Thick' was first used to mean 'closely allied with' in the 18th century.

The association of thieves with conspiratorial and secretive language was well established in England in the 18th century. Many of those on the fringes of society, for example poachers, homosexuals, street hawkers and thieves, used secret words and phrases to converse furtively amongst themselves. Backslang was one example of this, the best known survival of backslang being 'yob' for 'boy'. Several lexicographers had published dictionaries used by those on the wrong side of the law, notably the New Dictionary of the Terms Ancient and Modern of the Canting Crew, 1698. The 'canting crew' were the various vagabonds and coney-catchers (conmen) that inhabited the streets of British cities. The dictionary explained how to decipher the language of "the tribes of gypsies, beggars, thieves, cheats etc.", so that people could "secure their money and preserve their lives".

Given that thieves were established as being 'thick' by the late 17th century it is surprising that 'as thick as thieves' didn't emerge until a century or so later. The records of the Old Bailey, which list transcripts of cases held there since 1674 and which might be just the place to find this phrase, don't list it until 1874. The first example that I can find of it in print is from the English newspaper The Morning Chronicle, in a letter dated March 1827, published in February 1828:

Bill Morris and me are as thick as two thieves.

So there you have it; proverbially at least, planks are stupid but thieves (unless you include bankers) aren't.

 

[Bobby Dodd]

I'll even go as far as to say I believe he had some planted questions to start Saban rants in pressers... Those 2 are thick as thieves (really don't know what that means but it sounds great in movies)

They are not thick as thieves. Cecil is a prick.

 

[Brandon Van de Graaff]

Exactly. If he's writing any type of "breaking news" or "in depth" article regarding the team/roster/future... It's via Saban. Finebaum used to always give him ish about it back in the day and he was right.

I'll even go as far as to say I believe he had some planted questions to start Saban rants in pressers... Those 2 are thick as thieves (really don't know what that means but it sounds great in movies)

To be fair, I was implying that Cecil got a scoop from the AD side... I personally don’t think he and Saban are all that tight, nor should they be.

 

[Brandon Van de Graaff]

They are not thick as thieves. Cecil is a prick.

He is odd, that’s for sure. Then again, many in his industry are (for whatever reason).

 

[Tidestalker]

To be fair, I was implying that Cecil got a scoop from the AD side... I personally don’t think he and Saban are all that tight, nor should they be.

The AD can't fart without Saban's permission... lol

 

[JoshB]

I've never shouted you down. The only thing I've done is throw questions at you and ask you to look at it.

Do you care to take the time and tell me how Alabama is bigoted by people standing up for their constitutional rights?

Whether I agree with what they're doing or not makes no difference. It's in the Constitution of the United States of America

Allowing gay people to get married doesn't violate anyone's constitutional rights. Please. You know just as well as I do this has absolutely NOTHING to do with the constitution. And by the way, are you going to argue that the constitution itself hasn't violated people's rights? Wanna go there?

And I wasn't talking about you with the shouting down stuff and you know Im not wrong about that.

 

[OldPlayer]

Allowing gay people to get married doesn't violate anyone's constitutional rights. Please. You know just as well as I do this has absolutely NOTHING to do with the constitution. And by the way, are you going to argue that the constitution itself hasn't violated people's rights? Wanna go there?

And I wasn't talking about you with the shouting down stuff and you know Im not wrong about that.

I'm not in this pissing contest, but I will point out that the Constitution can't violate anyone's rights since the Constitution is what gives the rights. Freedom of religion, freedom of expression, freedom of the press are all based on what the Constitution guarantees to U.S. citizens.

 

[TerryP]

Allowing gay people to get married doesn't violate anyone's constitutional rights. Please. You know just as well as I do this has absolutely NOTHING to do with the constitution. And by the way, are you going to argue that the constitution itself hasn't violated people's rights? Wanna go there?

Yes, I do. Because it has absolutely nothing to do with gay people getting married. And, it has EVERYTHING to do with Constitutional rights.

. In Alabama's case, it was the passage of a law allowing adoption agencies in the state to follow faith-based policies, including the option to not place children with gay couples.

This is a law, passed by California, respecting the establishment of a religion. In this case, people who believe homosexuaulity is wrong and they are making a choice not to allow couples to adopt kids. They are doing that based on their religious beliefs.

And I wasn't talking about you with the shouting down stuff and you know Im not wrong about that.

Please don't paint with such a broad brush.

 

[Brandon Van de Graaff]

The AD can't fart without Saban's permission... lol

Perception isn’t reality in this case. This issue isn’t anything to keep a lid on anyway, but there’s been his own staff members in the past that loved to run around and sing about things Saban would wish they’d keep quiet about. Saban isn’t going to care about an article saying Bama needs to play a home-and-home with a premiere opponent coming out when he already knows that a home-and-home with premiere opponent(s) is in the works.