š CECIL HURT: Iāll say it again, Alabama needs to bring in a big-name opponent
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No. It's bullshit because of what it is, not that it's brought up here.
These are choices based on religion and people's belief in God. California has no right to say shit about either. The damn Constitution and freedom of religion... Son of a bitch...about laws being established ...
. In Alabama's case, it was the passage of a law allowing adoption agencies in the state to follow faith-based policies, including the option to not place children with gay couples.
I knew about that OP... I haven't seen anything about sports programs being exempt
I don't believe they are. Fresno State was allowed to come to Tuscaloosa since the contract was signed before the legislation. Looking forward, it means that there won't be a home-and-home with UCLA (state funded) but there could be with USCw (private school).
I don't believe they are either until I see evidence to the contrary.
That's the reason I ask bird for a link...
And by the way... Do you not see the irony and the duplicity in this sentence?
There are some initiatives to create exceptions to the law for academic purposes, but nothing has passed. Here's the text of the law:
Assembly Bill No. 1887
CHAPTER 687
An act to add Section 11139.8 to the Government Code, relating to discrimination.
[Approved by Governor September 27, 2016. Filed with Secretary of State September 27, 2016.]
legislative counselās digest
AB 1887, Low. State government: discrimination: travel. Existing law prohibits discrimination on the basis of race, national origin, ethnic group identification, religion, age, sex, sexual orientation, color, genetic information, or disability under any state program or activity. Existing law provides for officers and employees of the state, when away from their headquarters for state business, to receive travel expenses. This bill would prohibit a state agency and the Legislature from requiring any of its employees, officers, or members to travel to, or approving a request for state-funded or state-sponsored travel to, any state that, after June 26, 2015, has enacted a law that voids or repeals, or has the effect of voiding or repealing, existing state or local protections against discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation, gender identity, or gender expression or has enacted a law that authorizes or requires discrimination against same-sex couples or their families or on the basis of sexual orientation, gender identity, or gender expression, as specified, subject to certain exceptions. The bill would require the Attorney General to develop, maintain, and post on his or her Internet Web site a current list of states that, after June 26, 2015, have enacted such a law. The bill would make it the responsibility of specified state entities to consult the list in order to comply with the travel and funding restrictions imposed by the bill.
The people of the State of California do enact as follows:
SECTION 1. Section 11139.8 is added to the Government Code, to read: 11139.8. (a) The Legislature finds and declares all of the following:
(1) California is a leader in protecting civil rights and preventing discrimination.
(2) Californiaās robust nondiscrimination laws include protections on the basis of sexual orientation, gender identity, and gender expression, among other characteristics.
(3) Religious freedom is a cornerstone of law and public policy in the United States, and the Legislature strongly supports and affirms this important freedom.
(4) The exercise of religious freedom should not be a justification for discrimination.
(5) California must take action to avoid supporting or financing discrimination against lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender people.
(6) It is the policy of the State of California to promote fairness and equality and to combat discrimination.
(b) A state agency, department, board, authority, or commission, including an agency, department, board, authority, or commission of the University of California, the Board of Regents of the University of California, or the California State University, and the Legislature shall not do either of the following:
(1) Require any of its employees, officers, or members to travel to a state that, after June 26, 2015, has enacted a law that voids or repeals, or has the effect of voiding or repealing, existing state or local protections against discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation, gender identity, or gender expression or has enacted a law that authorizes or requires discrimination against same-sex couples or their families or on the basis of sexual orientation, gender identity, or gender expression, including any law that creates an exemption to antidiscrimination laws in order to permit discrimination against same-sex couples or their families or on the basis of sexual orientation, gender identity, or gender expression.
(2) Approve a request for state-funded or state-sponsored travel to a state that, after June 26, 2015, has enacted a law that voids or repeals, or has the effect of voiding or repealing, existing state or local protections against discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation, gender identity, or gender expression, or has enacted a law that authorizes or requires discrimination against same-sex couples or their families or on the basis of sexual orientation, gender identity, or gender expression, including any law that creates an exemption to antidiscrimination laws in order to permit discrimination against same-sex couples or their families or on the basis of sexual orientation, gender identity, or gender expression.
(c) Subdivision (b) shall not apply to travel that is required for any of the following purposes:
(1) Enforcement of California law, including auditing and revenue collection.
(2) Litigation.
(3) To meet contractual obligations incurred before January 1, 2017.
(4) To comply with requests by the federal government to appear before committees.
(5) To participate in meetings or training required by a grant or required to maintain grant funding.
(6) To complete job-required training necessary to maintain licensure or similar standards required for holding a position, in the event that comparable training cannot be obtained in California or a different state not affected by subdivision (b).
(7) For the protection of public health, welfare, or safety, as determined by the affected agency, department, board, authority, or commission, or by the affected legislative office, as described in subdivision (b).
(d) The prohibition on state-funded travel described in this section shall continue while any law specified in subdivision (b) remains in effect.
(e) (1) The Attorney General shall develop, maintain, and post on his or her Internet Web site a current list of states that, after June 26, 2015, have enacted a law that voids or repeals, or has the effect of voiding or repealing, an existing state or local protection against discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation, gender identity, or gender expression, or have enacted a law that authorizes or requires discrimination against same-sex couples or their families or on the basis of sexual orientation, gender identity, or gender expression, including any law that creates an exemption to antidiscrimination laws in order to permit discrimination against same-sex couples or their families or on the basis of sexual orientation, gender identity, or gender expression.
(2) It shall be the responsibility of an agency, department, board, authority, or commission described in subdivision (b) to consult the list on the Internet Web site of the Attorney General in order to comply with the travel and funding restrictions imposed by this section.
Assembly Bill No. 1887
CHAPTER 687
An act to add Section 11139.8 to the Government Code, relating to discrimination.
[Approved by Governor September 27, 2016. Filed with Secretary of State September 27, 2016.]
legislative counselās digest
AB 1887, Low. State government: discrimination: travel. Existing law prohibits discrimination on the basis of race, national origin, ethnic group identification, religion, age, sex, sexual orientation, color, genetic information, or disability under any state program or activity. Existing law provides for officers and employees of the state, when away from their headquarters for state business, to receive travel expenses. This bill would prohibit a state agency and the Legislature from requiring any of its employees, officers, or members to travel to, or approving a request for state-funded or state-sponsored travel to, any state that, after June 26, 2015, has enacted a law that voids or repeals, or has the effect of voiding or repealing, existing state or local protections against discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation, gender identity, or gender expression or has enacted a law that authorizes or requires discrimination against same-sex couples or their families or on the basis of sexual orientation, gender identity, or gender expression, as specified, subject to certain exceptions. The bill would require the Attorney General to develop, maintain, and post on his or her Internet Web site a current list of states that, after June 26, 2015, have enacted such a law. The bill would make it the responsibility of specified state entities to consult the list in order to comply with the travel and funding restrictions imposed by the bill.
The people of the State of California do enact as follows:
SECTION 1. Section 11139.8 is added to the Government Code, to read: 11139.8. (a) The Legislature finds and declares all of the following:
(1) California is a leader in protecting civil rights and preventing discrimination.
(2) Californiaās robust nondiscrimination laws include protections on the basis of sexual orientation, gender identity, and gender expression, among other characteristics.
(3) Religious freedom is a cornerstone of law and public policy in the United States, and the Legislature strongly supports and affirms this important freedom.
(4) The exercise of religious freedom should not be a justification for discrimination.
(5) California must take action to avoid supporting or financing discrimination against lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender people.
(6) It is the policy of the State of California to promote fairness and equality and to combat discrimination.
(b) A state agency, department, board, authority, or commission, including an agency, department, board, authority, or commission of the University of California, the Board of Regents of the University of California, or the California State University, and the Legislature shall not do either of the following:
(1) Require any of its employees, officers, or members to travel to a state that, after June 26, 2015, has enacted a law that voids or repeals, or has the effect of voiding or repealing, existing state or local protections against discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation, gender identity, or gender expression or has enacted a law that authorizes or requires discrimination against same-sex couples or their families or on the basis of sexual orientation, gender identity, or gender expression, including any law that creates an exemption to antidiscrimination laws in order to permit discrimination against same-sex couples or their families or on the basis of sexual orientation, gender identity, or gender expression.
(2) Approve a request for state-funded or state-sponsored travel to a state that, after June 26, 2015, has enacted a law that voids or repeals, or has the effect of voiding or repealing, existing state or local protections against discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation, gender identity, or gender expression, or has enacted a law that authorizes or requires discrimination against same-sex couples or their families or on the basis of sexual orientation, gender identity, or gender expression, including any law that creates an exemption to antidiscrimination laws in order to permit discrimination against same-sex couples or their families or on the basis of sexual orientation, gender identity, or gender expression.
(c) Subdivision (b) shall not apply to travel that is required for any of the following purposes:
(1) Enforcement of California law, including auditing and revenue collection.
(2) Litigation.
(3) To meet contractual obligations incurred before January 1, 2017.
(4) To comply with requests by the federal government to appear before committees.
(5) To participate in meetings or training required by a grant or required to maintain grant funding.
(6) To complete job-required training necessary to maintain licensure or similar standards required for holding a position, in the event that comparable training cannot be obtained in California or a different state not affected by subdivision (b).
(7) For the protection of public health, welfare, or safety, as determined by the affected agency, department, board, authority, or commission, or by the affected legislative office, as described in subdivision (b).
(d) The prohibition on state-funded travel described in this section shall continue while any law specified in subdivision (b) remains in effect.
(e) (1) The Attorney General shall develop, maintain, and post on his or her Internet Web site a current list of states that, after June 26, 2015, have enacted a law that voids or repeals, or has the effect of voiding or repealing, an existing state or local protection against discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation, gender identity, or gender expression, or have enacted a law that authorizes or requires discrimination against same-sex couples or their families or on the basis of sexual orientation, gender identity, or gender expression, including any law that creates an exemption to antidiscrimination laws in order to permit discrimination against same-sex couples or their families or on the basis of sexual orientation, gender identity, or gender expression.
(2) It shall be the responsibility of an agency, department, board, authority, or commission described in subdivision (b) to consult the list on the Internet Web site of the Attorney General in order to comply with the travel and funding restrictions imposed by this section.
Tidestalker
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How is it bullshit? The state of Alabama is discriminating against people.
Padawan, you're bringing a knife to a gunfight
bama alum
Member
Cecil Hurt must have held a session with AD Greg Byrne...
Alabama Crimson Tide Football: Nick Saban, Greg Byrne meet to discuss home-and-home series
Nick Saban, Greg Byrne meet to discuss home-and-home series
Alabama coach Nick Saban said he would be in favor of reverting back to that model again in the future and that discussions to do that have actually been held.
TUSCALOOSA, Ala. -- The last time Alabama played a non-conference foe outside of a neutral site was in 2011 when it traveled to Penn State in Game 2 of a home-and-home series.
During his weekly radio show Thursday night, Crimson Tide head coach Nick Saban said he would be in favor of reverting back to that model again in the future and that discussions to do that have actually been held between he and athletic director Greg Byrne.
āI would like to do that,ā Saban said at Baumhowerās Victory Grille. āWe played Penn State home-and-home when I was here, and it was a good game here, it was a good game there, great crowd and all that. Itās better for our fans if we play at home, I get that. But playing in these sort of games has helped us to play a better team, even though itās at a neutral site, and it gained tremendous exposure for the program early on.
āBut Greg Byrne and I met about doing this in the future where we have some home-and-homes with some teams every now and then so weāre not playing in one of these neutral-site games to start the season.ā
The neutral-site games arenāt going away, though.
They simply bring in too much money to both programs involved. Alabama received $5 million for its 2017 opener against Florida State in Atlantaās brand-new Mercedes-Benz Stadium three weeks ago and will earn $4.5 million for playing Duke inside the same venue to start the 2019 season, according to a report Chandler Rome of The Anniston Star.
The Crimson Tide has also seen quite a bit of success in neutral-site games. Alabama is 8-0 in neutral-site openers under Saban and have three more scheduled the next four years.
But in terms of catering to fans of the program and increasing the level of competition and parity in college football, Saban is open to discussing future home-and-home series, on top of strengthening the schedule with more intriguing matchups nationwide.
āNo question, Iād love to do it,ā Saban said. āIāve been out there talking about how we should have to play all Power 5 conferences in all 12 games. And I know thereās a lot of opposition to that. The biggest opposition is the way you qualify for a bowl game.
āEverybody wants to win six games, aight. So, they win six games, they get to go to a bowl game. Well, if I could play four teams that I know I could beat that nobody really cares about watching, then I could qualify for a bowl game.
āWell, my answer to that would be why donāt we do it like they do basketball? They pick 64 teams or 68 teams or whatever it is for the basketball tournament based on, not their record necessarily, but strength of schedule and all that type of stuff. So, you put the best teams, however many there are -- kind of like we do the top 12 now -- and then it wouldnāt be as big an issue to try to win six games but it would be more about who you play, strength of schedule, be much better for the fans.
āā¦ And the other thing is is we wouldnāt be caught up in this deal that we have now in college football where if you lose one game, you may be out. Well, if everybody played 12 teams, itās like the NFL. The New York Giants lost six games and won the Super Bowl a couple years ago. So, you can lose a game, you can lose maybe two games, and still be one of the best teams in the country, if you lost to one of the top-five teams or you lost to somebody else.
āI guess being an old NFL guy and playing nothing but NFL teams -- and theyāre all good -- why donāt we do that more like that in college football?ā
SABAN'S THOUGHTS ON PLAYING 9-10 SEC GAMES:
āIāve always said nine games,ā Saban said. āI just think that every player should have the opportunity to play every school in the SEC in his career. So, when we play our sixth game on the other side and two more, that usually happened in a playerās career. They got to play Georgia, they got to play Florida, they got to play everybody in the league. That doesnāt always happen now.ā
Contact Charlie Potter by 247Sports' personal messaging or on Twitter (@Charlie_Potter).
Alabama Crimson Tide Football: Nick Saban, Greg Byrne meet to discuss home-and-home series
Nick Saban, Greg Byrne meet to discuss home-and-home series
Alabama coach Nick Saban said he would be in favor of reverting back to that model again in the future and that discussions to do that have actually been held.
- Charlie Potter - 15 hours ago
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TUSCALOOSA, Ala. -- The last time Alabama played a non-conference foe outside of a neutral site was in 2011 when it traveled to Penn State in Game 2 of a home-and-home series.
During his weekly radio show Thursday night, Crimson Tide head coach Nick Saban said he would be in favor of reverting back to that model again in the future and that discussions to do that have actually been held between he and athletic director Greg Byrne.
āI would like to do that,ā Saban said at Baumhowerās Victory Grille. āWe played Penn State home-and-home when I was here, and it was a good game here, it was a good game there, great crowd and all that. Itās better for our fans if we play at home, I get that. But playing in these sort of games has helped us to play a better team, even though itās at a neutral site, and it gained tremendous exposure for the program early on.
āBut Greg Byrne and I met about doing this in the future where we have some home-and-homes with some teams every now and then so weāre not playing in one of these neutral-site games to start the season.ā
The neutral-site games arenāt going away, though.
They simply bring in too much money to both programs involved. Alabama received $5 million for its 2017 opener against Florida State in Atlantaās brand-new Mercedes-Benz Stadium three weeks ago and will earn $4.5 million for playing Duke inside the same venue to start the 2019 season, according to a report Chandler Rome of The Anniston Star.
The Crimson Tide has also seen quite a bit of success in neutral-site games. Alabama is 8-0 in neutral-site openers under Saban and have three more scheduled the next four years.
But in terms of catering to fans of the program and increasing the level of competition and parity in college football, Saban is open to discussing future home-and-home series, on top of strengthening the schedule with more intriguing matchups nationwide.
āNo question, Iād love to do it,ā Saban said. āIāve been out there talking about how we should have to play all Power 5 conferences in all 12 games. And I know thereās a lot of opposition to that. The biggest opposition is the way you qualify for a bowl game.
āEverybody wants to win six games, aight. So, they win six games, they get to go to a bowl game. Well, if I could play four teams that I know I could beat that nobody really cares about watching, then I could qualify for a bowl game.
āWell, my answer to that would be why donāt we do it like they do basketball? They pick 64 teams or 68 teams or whatever it is for the basketball tournament based on, not their record necessarily, but strength of schedule and all that type of stuff. So, you put the best teams, however many there are -- kind of like we do the top 12 now -- and then it wouldnāt be as big an issue to try to win six games but it would be more about who you play, strength of schedule, be much better for the fans.
āā¦ And the other thing is is we wouldnāt be caught up in this deal that we have now in college football where if you lose one game, you may be out. Well, if everybody played 12 teams, itās like the NFL. The New York Giants lost six games and won the Super Bowl a couple years ago. So, you can lose a game, you can lose maybe two games, and still be one of the best teams in the country, if you lost to one of the top-five teams or you lost to somebody else.
āI guess being an old NFL guy and playing nothing but NFL teams -- and theyāre all good -- why donāt we do that more like that in college football?ā
SABAN'S THOUGHTS ON PLAYING 9-10 SEC GAMES:
āIāve always said nine games,ā Saban said. āI just think that every player should have the opportunity to play every school in the SEC in his career. So, when we play our sixth game on the other side and two more, that usually happened in a playerās career. They got to play Georgia, they got to play Florida, they got to play everybody in the league. That doesnāt always happen now.ā
Contact Charlie Potter by 247Sports' personal messaging or on Twitter (@Charlie_Potter).
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pignjig17
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Don't know about ND stadium but the Pasadena Rose bowl is an old dump
Didn't they do some major renovations to the outside of Notre Dame Stadium last year or the year before?
Gunfight? Do you support this discrimination?
It was called bullshit because one poster claimed it was "literally discussed on here weekly!" Go take a look on page 1 of this thread.
Yes; this year. I hate to admit it but per pictures it looks like the nicest stadium (exterior wise) in the country. Kind of like Doak Campbell; from the outside it might be hard to tell it's a stadium and looks more like an early 20th century classic architectural building/buildings. If it was a dump I have a feeling it's not a dump anymore. Here's a good link if interested Home // Campus Crossroads // University of Notre Dame
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Just let it go, man that is not a fight you can win on this board. Trust me. You're about to get shouted down by 5 or 6 people if you continue on with that.
I've never shouted you down. The only thing I've done is throw questions at you and ask you to look at it.
Do you care to take the time and tell me how Alabama is bigoted by people standing up for their constitutional rights?
Whether I agree with what they're doing or not makes no difference. It's in the Constitution of the United States of America
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