🏈 Blake Sims...where he ranks among all QB's

[It Takes Eleven]

Sims' ability to scramble, avoid sacks and run the ball makes up for any deficiencies he has in his accuracy. I'll just take the Tennessee game alone. Sims picked up a crucial first down by scrambling that McCarron and McElroy would have NEVER gotten. He brings an element to our offense that neither McCarron or McElroy does and it makes it very hard for defenses to plan for us.

McElroy could do that with one leg tied behind his back...
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[jdpas29]

I'm not sure if their needs to be so much defense of Blake Sims at this point. His record speaks for itself. The guy is a winner like a lot of Bama QBs before him. He's just winning differently than Bama fans are used to... that's all.

Let's not BS ourselves comparing apples and oranges. Admit it! the way in which Blake plays the game and makes plays is very different than AJ or Gmac. That is not disputable. But who cares if it wins games?!?!?!

Go Blake Go!

 

[BigCrimson]

I'm not sure if their needs to be so much defense of Blake Sims at this point. His record speaks for itself. The guy is a winner like a lot of Bama QBs before him. He's just winning differently than Bama fans are used to... that's all.

Let's not BS ourselves comparing apples and oranges. Admit it! the way in which Blake plays the game and makes plays is very different than AJ or Gmac. That is not disputable. But who cares if it wins games?!?!?!

Go Blake Go!

Getting a glimpse at what a mobile qb can do in our offense. I sure do wish we'd focus more on finding these type qb's. I know they don't grow on trees but at least make an attempt at getting them.

 

[UAgrad93]

@BigCrimson, we have gone after similar kids in the past. The problem is, those type of dual threat guys want to run the Oregon Duck offense scheme and not a pro style scheme like ours. Look on 247sports.com and look at our targets at dual threat qb. That is this year alone. You can look around the country at current qbs and see that we were in their top 5 as well.

 

[BigCrimson]

@BigCrimson, we have gone after similar kids in the past. The problem is, those type of dual threat guys want to run the Oregon Duck offense scheme and not a pro style scheme like ours. Look on 247sports.com and look at our targets at dual threat qb. That is this year alone. You can look around the country at current qbs and see that we were in their top 5 as well.

Maybe these recruits seeing what Sims has done this season in our offense will start to change that. We've been a victim before of mobile qb's. It is nice when you're team is the one who's victimizing other teams with your mobile QB.

 

[russb8903]

So Blake hasnt done that? So in other words you look at plays like the roll out where Coop took a 12 yard pass and turned it into an 80 yard TD or the screen passes he's done the same with and them completely ignore the 80 yard TD to Drake, the bombs Sims has thrown to Coop including one right after that short pass which I believe was a 41 yard TD in the same game. All those deep passes down the field and the pretty fade routes he throws, you ignore and claim "Sims hasn't done that." Thats just flat out not true.

Not really. Plays like the big one to Drake were to wide open busted coverage receivers. He has rarely if ever dropped one over someone's shoulder 40 yards downfield. That's ok, but you're delusional if you think he is making consistent downfield throws. I am also discouraged by the fact he still can't run the offense this late in the season.

 

[BigCrimson]

Not really. Plays like the big one to Drake were to wide open busted coverage receivers. He has rarely if ever dropped one over someone's shoulder 40 yards downfield. That's ok, but you're delusional if you think he is making consistent downfield throws. I am also discouraged by the fact he still can't run the offense this late in the season.

He's a first year starter. Go back and look how long it took McCarron to finally get some kind of command of the offense. He didn't start looking like he was in command until the last game of his first year as a starter. You're holding Sims to a higher standard than our other first time starters.

 

[mrchase]

I find this hilarious. ...

 

[bamafan4ever]

Not really. Plays like the big one to Drake were to wide open busted coverage receivers. He has rarely if ever dropped one over someone's shoulder 40 yards downfield. That's ok, but you're delusional if you think he is making consistent downfield throws. I am also discouraged by the fact he still can't run the offense this late in the season.

I would like to really understand your criticism of Blake but it really comes off as nitpicking. Blake has made some really nice throws but where he has become invaluable is extending drives on 3rd down with his feet.....and guts. He doesn't slide to get 3rd down either (which makes me nervous for his health). He goes full bore, down right and nasty on their ass if he has to. I don't know you russ so I won't make any assumptions but I think you are hard on a guy who has overcome all odds to be where he is and that's the #1 rated QB headed into November. It's a great Crimson Tide story.

 

[BigCrimson]

Yeah, hard to argue with being the number one rated quarterback in the conference.

 

[bamafan4ever]

Yeah, hard to argue with being the number one rated quarterback in the conference.

Check that....#1 rated QB in the NCAA.

 

[BigCrimson]

Too bad this is his only year to play as the starter. Can you imagine how dangerous he would be if had another offseason and season to play.

 

[TerryP]

I'm not sure if their needs to be so much defense of Blake Sims at this point. His record speaks for itself. The guy is a winner like a lot of Bama QBs before him. He's just winning differently than Bama fans are used to... that's all.

Let's not BS ourselves comparing apples and oranges. Admit it! the way in which Blake plays the game and makes plays is very different than AJ or Gmac. That is not disputable. But who cares if it wins games?!?!?!

Go Blake Go!

Thank you!

Not only is the manner in which he plays the game differently, the only real comparison we can make between the three QB's is they all ran the offense out of the some of the same sets. We still see our Ace formation, we still see our unbalanced line, and we still see single back sets with three wides. But, the scheme isn't the same.

A month ago you and I have been involved in threads, here, about the offense gaining an identity within the new scheme.

(FWIW, the TN game last week marked our third official road game. In our road games we've come out with a different formation and play each time (including the home games.) It's one of the reasons we've seen those long TD strikes/plays (Drake and Coop) on the first play of a game. It was a look and play opposing defensive coordinators hadn't seen.

 

[TerryP]

Not really. Plays like the big one to Drake were to wide open busted coverage receivers. He has rarely if ever dropped one over someone's shoulder 40 yards downfield. That's ok, but you're delusional if you think he is making consistent downfield throws. I am also discouraged by the fact he still can't run the offense this late in the season.

I don't understand that statement. On what are you basing the assessment "he still can't run the offense this late in the season?"

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On a similar note on Blake...

Yards Per Attempt Passing:

 

[UAgrad93]

@russb8903 Those busted coverages with a WR running all by himself are often the HARDEST throws to make! Why criticize about deep throws when our passing game doesn't revolve around having to throw it 60yds downfield like the Raiders of the 70s and 80s? Blake is playing winning football and has been a plus for us at the QB position.

 

[TerryP]

FWIW, the 87 yard TD to Drake isn't what I'd call busted coverage. In fact, far from it.

The formation led to Drake being covered by a linebacker who bit on the slant portion of the slant and go. That linebacker got beat—both in the matchup against Drake and the route called.

 

[sean]

While I am pleased with his play, he does have the benefit of Cooper turning a lot of 4 yard plays into TD's.

show me a top-tier quarterback that doesn't have other play-makers around them to turn a short-yard pass into an explosive play or big gain.

No they don't, because they both make lots of plays downfield. Blake Sims hasn't done that. I'm not saying he's bad, but his numbers are particularly inflated by a lot of plays going for more than they should have due to one receiver.

again, show me a top-tier quarterback that doesn't play in the same situation.

But not to the extent of Blake Sims.

and this is a third post in a row that has a negative connotation against Blake. if you don't like the guy as OUR quarterback, then just come out and say so.

it seems like you're looking for any excuse for him to fail so you can be proven right.

i can understand stating facts, i really can. but if seems as though you're just wanting to find the negative facts and expose him as a bad quarterback. no team is perfect, and neither is any player. but Blake hasn't last us any games while he's been the starter.

 

[russb8903]

I don't understand that statement. On what are you basing the assessment "he still can't run the offense this late in the season?"

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On a similar note on Blake...

Yards Per Attempt Passing:

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Because we are still burning a good number of timeouts to avoid delays of game due to confusion. Too many times it's having to be relayed from the sidelines and he can't get people lined up. Some of that isn't on him, but often times it is.

Clearly everyone is quite upset and thinks I hate him. I don't. What I have said is that he is an OK QB. He isn't great, and a high QBR doesn't change that. People are accusing me of holding him to a different standard. I am not. Greg McElroy wasn't a great QB either. He was good enough, as Sims may also prove to be, but he wasn't great.

 

[UAgrad93]

Because we are still burning a good number of timeouts to avoid delays of game due to confusion. Too many times it's having to be relayed from the sidelines and he can't get people lined up. Some of that isn't on him, but often times it is.

Clearly everyone is quite upset and thinks I hate him. I don't. What I have said is that he is an OK QB. He isn't great, and a high QBR doesn't change that. People are accusing me of holding him to a different standard. I am not. Greg McElroy wasn't a great QB either. He was good enough, as Sims may also prove to be, but he wasn't great.

The burning of timeouts often does fall on the sideline. When you sub personnel, some see the formation call while others don't. CLK locating and reading the call into the headset from his 4ft piece of posterboard. Making the call, locating the "Mike" LB, lining everyone up correctly, locating 1 or 2 safeties to give indicator of the coverage, tight or lose corners. All of these have to be factored in within 40 secs!! Not as easy as it looks!

 

[psychojoe]

Back in the seventies NC State went 34-1 in hoops and won the national championship under Norm Sloan. His detractors were saying 'but what would Dean Smith have done with that team'.