🏈 Big 12, SEC must make changes to have an even playoff field

With respect to Bruce Hornsby (no, not Tupac), "that's just the way it is" is a horrendous reason to continue doing something.

"That's just the way it's always been done" might be the only rationale that's worse.

The College Football Playoff begins in 2014, and the SEC announced plans last month to retain its eight-game conference schedule, rather than expand to a nine-game slate. The game's kingpin conference did require its members to schedule an opponent from the Power 5 conferences beginning in 2016, which is also the same season the Big Ten begins playing nine conference games.

The ACC is still considering a move to nine games.

The SEC's decision, led to a parade of Pac-12 coaches blasting the decision. They coach in the league that paved the way for nine-game schedules, and the SEC is likely to be the only league still playing eight in years to come.

The Big 12 began playing nine games in 2011 after Nebraska and Colorado'sexit made the Big 12 a ten-team league. A round-robin schedule gave the conference the ability to crown what it won't stop calling "one true champion" for the first time in its history.

"I don't think there's anybody prepared to argue that isn't the truest way to determine your champion," Big 12 commissioner Bob Bowlsby told Fox Sports Southwest on Monday morning. "I think that will serve us well in consideration with the championship and the playoff."

Bowlsby was preparing to board a flight to Phoenix for the Big 12 coaches' meetings this week, and while plenty is up for discussion during the three-day desert powwow, the possibility of evening college football's playing field is not.

"If we're going to go to a playoff, and feed into one playoff system, we all need to play by the same rules," Stanford coach David Shaw said last week.

Preach, Mr. Shaw.

The Big 12 would love to see the SEC and ACC officially join the fold and play a nine-game schedule. It better not push too hard, though, or the other four power conferences might wise up and remember only one conference doesn't force its best team to play an additional game against another of its best teams on the final weekend of the season to win the conference trophy.

A nine-game schedule and a conference title game means more quality football and fewer "Let's watch something else" matchups with FCS teams. A commissioners' job isn't to push legislation or do what's best for college football. His job is to do what his members want him to do.

Bowlsby said Monday he hasn't heard any push from presidents, chancellors or athletic directors to re-institute the title game, and to his credit, he's at least being honest about the reason.

"We like our path to the playoff. I think it's a good thing we don't have our two best teams playing each other on the last date of the season," he said. "One of them's going to lose, and sometimes it's not the right one."

From 1996-2010, five teams ranked in the top three lost in the Big 12 title game.

Some might call that good business. The rest of us call it wimpy. The same is true of the SEC's decision to replace a ninth conference game with a race to schedule Indiana, Kansas or Colorado.

Don't blame Bowlsby. His job isn't to push legislation his members don't want. He wouldn't be commissioner long if he did. If the league members wanted a title game, they'd have one, even though the rules don't (yet) technically allow a league with fewer than 12 members to hold one.

Any change would have to come from the playoff brass or NCAA itself, pushed by leagues like the Pac-12 and Big Ten who wouldn't have more difficult roads if nine games and a title game were mandated. It won't happen otherwise. There's no real motivation for the SEC or Big 12 to change unless somebody twists their arm and makes them.

College football would benefit from the change. It's more quality football for fans (and deep-pocketed television partners), which means more popularity (and money, of course) for the game and those associated with it. It's a harder road to the title game for some, but it's the same road for everybody. It makes too much sense, which far too often works against any idea in college football.

"Hey, if we overturn an ejection on a targeting penalty, let's keep the 15-yard penalty, even though the defender didn't do anything wrong!"

Life isn't fair, but college football ought to be. At least it could try. The game's about to undergo the biggest change in its century-plus history. Why not add one more?

That's just the way it is?

Things should never be the same.

David Ubben—Fox Sports SouthWest...
 
"We like our path to the playoff. I think it's a good thing we don't have our two best teams playing each other on the last date of the season," he said. "One of them's going to lose, and sometimes it's not the right one."


A-hem... TerryP I think this is what I said last year in our discussion about the SEC Championship game.
 
@TheChief Sometimes the wrong team losses? That's a credible argument against a conference championship? I look at that comment by Bowlsby and come away with one impression; spineless.

You're comment, as I recall, had to do with the affect it would have on an invitation to the playoffs. I'm sure that's what Bowlsby is thinking as well.

Let's look at those five games (four is my count, can't figure out the fifth.)

The biggest of note is probably 2003 when #1 Oklahoma lost to #15 Kansas State. What happened to OU? They still made it to the title game against LSU.
The 1996 Nebraska team lost to TX (unranked) when they were at #3. It was their second loss of the year. There were five teams that only had one loss ahead of them in the AP poll the following week—two of them undefeated. In a playoff scenario, would have have had an invitation? With two losses, against a one loss Florida team and a one loss Ohio State team? No sympathy from me.

#3 TX lost to a top ten team in Colorado. #2 Kansas State lost to a top ten team in A&M.

It's the Big12-2's choice (well, it's Oklahoma and Texas' choice to put it more precisely) not to have a championship game. If they get left out, so be it. I'd dare say the committee is going to look at a team that's played a conference championship game with the same number of losses as a Big12-2 team and give preference to the one who has played in the conference championship game. It's a better resume.
 
While I don't follow the author, David Ubben, considering he's from FSSW (and the tone of his article) he's mirroring what some of the PAC coaches have said.

I've said, on more than one occasion, I wanted a nine game schedule. However, I don't think it's any business of David Shaw's what our conference decides to do.

I do find it quite ironic that this writer is hailing what Shaw said, pointing to SEC likely scheduling a team like Kansas or Colorado, and fails to mention Stanford is opening with UC Davis and has Army on their schedule as well. Let's add the almighty Cal, who went 1-11 last year. OR, a team from the very conference he's lauding, Colorado.

Do you see the irony and inconsistency here? He's saying the SEC might schedule a Colorado as a team, one of the very same teams the PAC is playing in their nine game rotation?
 
Looking at our SECCG's in the NC years, if we'd have lost to a #3 UGA and it made us drop out of the top four and miss the playoff? We should have won the game.

I don't like the idea, at all, of avoiding a game just so we don't take the chances of a loss.

I would be in favor of the playoffs being limited to just conference champions except for the one point of the fact we can have two of the best teams in the same division.

The only thing I think holds any water is it does need to be the same with all of the Big5.

I think it's completely reasonable to have all play conference games, all have to play a conference championship, and no one schedule an FCS team.

It wouldn't take much to convince me to also include that the three non-conference games have to be played against teams from the other four remaining major conferences. A team like UCF in 2013 is the only thing that holds me back—they had a good ball team last season.
 
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It wouldn't take much to convince me to also include that the three non-conference games have to be played against teams from the other four remaining major conferences. A team like UCF in 2013 is the only thing that holds me back—they had a good ball team last season.
Orlando Commuter College is not to be praised.
 
As we have discussed before, Alabama has played a quateam every year in the CNS era from outside the SEC. These games have been entertaining, at least from our point of view. If we have to play a 9th SEC opponent in 2016, will we step aside from those "kickoff classis" type games in Atlanta or Dallas. I would love the idea of nine SEC games and a quality out of conference opponent and no FCS teams, but I think I am in a tiny minority. :Dead Horse:
 
I would love the idea of nine SEC games and a quality out of conference opponent and no FCS teams, but I think I am in a tiny minority. :Dead Horse:

You are, if you're in a room of AD's, President's, etc.

Got one head coach on your side...tiny minority though? Double entendre?
 
“Alabama is in favor (of nine SEC games) and they’d love to go to it,” Shaw said. “They’ll add conference games. They don’t care. It’s the teams that don’t want to add Alabama to their conference schedule. (Nick Saban) isn’t going to back down from a challenge. It’s one more challenging game on your schedule that’s actually in your conference. The rest of us say, why not?”
 
“Alabama is in favor (of nine SEC games) and they’d love to go to it,” Shaw said. “They’ll add conference games. They don’t care. It’s the teams that don’t want to add Alabama to their conference schedule. (Nick Saban) isn’t going to back down from a challenge. It’s one more challenging game on your schedule that’s actually in your conference. The rest of us say, why not?”

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