🏈 BAMA Student's Racist Rant and the Reply From BAMA Football

[rick4bama]

On Jan. 8, 2018, the Best College Football team just beat the hell out of a team of Bull pups in OT with a backup QB!

 

[TerryP]

 

[JoshB]

Any guesses?

 

[Tidestalker]

Any guesses?

Nickname aint PAPA for nothin....

 

[planomateo]

I just hope Colleges and Universities take rape seriously...way more important than this in my opinion. They've swept this kinda shit under the rug for years...

 

[ColAngus]

He resigned over Watergate.
There was a lot of groups that tried to stop black people and it was over 50 years ago for most of the time. 158 years ago was the civil war. It was started over States rights not slavery. Slavery was a byproduct. The point I am making is that no one in the US today has an excuse for discrimination. It is over except for the race baiters that keep stirring it up. Come on we are better people than that to listen to crap. Just be Crimson and live life. Don't be a fobe for anything.

This is false. Slavery was the issue. I don't care to debate it, but perhaps reading might shed some light on this for you.

States rights? Sure, the states' right to own slaves.

Now back to the issue at hand, she's despicable and the university took swift action. Good for them.

 

[ColAngus]

:rolf: You slept through 3rd grade history, huh?

It's amazing that people still believe this.

 

[OldPlayer]

Were it a private school I would support them expelling her. But this is a state school and therefore should have no right to punish any speech that is not a direct threat towards someone. Free speech is a terrific and horrible thing that must be protected. Now, the school should not have to protect her from the consequences of her speech so it would be best for her to leave anyway.

Free speech does not mean you can say whatever you want, wherever you want. You can't yell "FIRE" in a crowded theater. The school has every right to expell her for her actions. It violated the student code of conduct. It creates an unsafe environment for the campus.

 

[rocknthefreeworld]

Saying something racist is nothing like yelling fire in a crowded theater. Since Bama is a government school they should have tighter restrictions on what they can do as punishment for saying something unpopular, although courts seem to disagree with that for some stupid reason. She created no unsafe environment for anyone at all, aside from herself possibly. As far as violating the code of conduct, I am more inclined to support her right to be an idiot than I am the government right to punish someone because they don't agree with them.

 

[jlabit]

It makes me sick to see the division and disharmony evident in our country right now. Except for native Americans, we are all immigrants, and we are all equal in the eyes of our God. Oh how I long for the days following 9/11/2001, when we were one country, UNITED. (Not for the act of terrorism, but for the harmony.)

 

[Che Boludo]

Considering it was a tweet from a football player that brought much of this story to light--at least that's what brought the attention--it is sort of football related.


Suggested...or reported. A bunch of news outlets are going with the later.


I'll tell you what disturbs me a bit; "The Office of Student Conduct." It just carries an Orwellian type of tone.

It does, but the University and Student Codes of Conduct are constraints. She was an extreme case and warranted dismissal.

Freedom of speech was intended for the individual's right to speak out against his/her government. It is frustrating when individuals on any side of a polemic argument invoke it as a catch-all to say what they want without fear of consequences.

The evidence was enough. But, did she not confess as well before expulsion? Due process seems to have been served.

She is a racist in word and deed. I have no use for her.

I am often not and am actually an advocate against political correctness. It is wasteful to expend energy debating on what not to say in fear of misunderstanding cultural differences. People should harden the fuck up and accept our differences and gaps in cultural understanding. Work to inform, debate, and be real ... not divide and conquer with everyone walking on eggshells.

That said, there is little room for hate speech and discrimination in the world based on race, ethnicity, or creed.

/soapbox rant

 

[Che Boludo]

Any guesses?

I hope it was a black dude and her entire family gets pics.


Is that wrong?

 

[BamaFan334]

I hope it was a black dude and her entire family gets pics.


Is that wrong?

Yes, that's some low class bullshit you're hoping for. The cycle will never be broken because one girl said something hateful and you want to drag her entire family to be brought into it and them to be hurt by her actions. Get a fucking life dude, and don't wish bad or inapropriate things on innocent people. Hate against hate isn't the solution, figured a scholar like yourself would have figured that out by now.

 

[Che Boludo]

Yes, that's some low class bullshit you're hoping for. The cycle will never be broken because one girl said something hateful and you want to drag her entire family to be brought into it and them to be hurt by her actions. Get a fucking life dude, and don't wish bad or inapropriate things on innocent people. Hate against hate isn't the solution, figured a scholar like yourself would have figured that out by now.

Fair enough. My assumption was that she came by it honestly, and the family was less innocent than you claimed.

In that view, it wasn't hate against hate so much as selfish desire to see karmic comeuppance.
:cheers:

 

[JoshB]

Saying something racist is nothing like yelling fire in a crowded theater. Since Bama is a government school they should have tighter restrictions on what they can do as punishment for saying something unpopular, although courts seem to disagree with that for some stupid reason. She created no unsafe environment for anyone at all, aside from herself possibly. As far as violating the code of conduct, I am more inclined to support her right to be an idiot than I am the government right to punish someone because they don't agree with them.

Wow... freedom of speech is not freedom of consequences of your speech. This is no different than if you went on some moronic racist rant on your facebook and someone sent it to your job. Guess what your job has the RIGHT to do? Fire your ass. Guess what the University has the right to do? It's actually pretty incredible that ADULTS have to have this shit explained to them.

https://www.ua.edu/about/policies/files/UA Code of Ethical Conduct Final.pdf

 

[OldPlayer]

Saying something racist is nothing like yelling fire in a crowded theater. Since Bama is a government school they should have tighter restrictions on what they can do as punishment for saying something unpopular, although courts seem to disagree with that for some stupid reason. She created no unsafe environment for anyone at all, aside from herself possibly. As far as violating the code of conduct, I am more inclined to support her right to be an idiot than I am the government right to punish someone because they don't agree with them.

I didn't say that racist comments are like yelling fire in a theater. Freedom of speech does not allow anyone to make racist comments or violate policies of conduct. If you went and called your boss a (pick anything negative, racial or not), would you be fired? Would the company have to allow you the ability to call your boss bad things? If freedom of speech were all encompassing, they wouldn't say a word.

 

[planomateo]

I'd argue that staying in school and having to deal with the ramifications requires far more from the young lady that running back to New Jersey.

 

[BamaFan334]

I didn't say that racist comments are like yelling fire in a theater. Freedom of speech does not allow anyone to make racist comments or violate policies of conduct. If you went and called your boss a (pick anything negative, racial or not), would you be fired? Would the company have to allow you the ability to call your boss bad things? If freedom of speech were all encompassing, they wouldn't say a word.

You keep using examples of someone being on someone else's property, which does take away certain freedoms. Take someone with an open carry gun permit. Well you can open carry on the streets, but private businesses can say no guns and keep you from their establishments. So yes, you can technically walk down the street and say anything you want without breaking the law. May have to deal with someone breaking the law to deal witb something you say that they don't like, but you are not breaking the law by saying words in public places.

 

[rocknthefreeworld]

I am amazed adults don't realize that there is a difference between a government agency and a private company with regards to your rights. I am amazed that adults think the Constitution only covers speech that doesn't upset people.

 

[ComeOnSon]

Wow... freedom of speech is not freedom of consequences of your speech. This is no different than if you went on some moronic racist rant on your facebook and someone sent it to your job. Guess what your job has the RIGHT to do? Fire your ass. Guess what the University has the right to do? It's actually pretty incredible that ADULTS have to have this shit explained to them.

https://www.ua.edu/about/policies/files/UA Code of Ethical Conduct Final.pdf

This isn’t necessarily true. If you aren’t representing yourself as an “agent”, so to speak, of your employer and do nothing to indicate your association with them or their approval of your speech you’re usually in the clear as far as being fired. A policy put in place by the employer however, changes everything.

To the point of the thread though...she got what she deserved and forever more a Google search will give any prospective employers, friends, dates, etc. all they need to know.