🏈 BAMA Student's Racist Rant and the Reply From BAMA Football

[RollllTide!]

:rolf: You slept through 3rd grade history, huh?

No didn't sleep through 3rd grade. You have been misled by twisted sisters. Who's zooming who.

The Emancipation proclamation was a year after the war started and was used by the north as a war tactic to free the slaves in 10 southern states. Not northern states. Slavery was an issue only after the war started. It was believed that it would devastate the southern enemy. The Civil war was one of the bloodiest wars our country has ever endured. No way we would have fought a war over just slavery. States Rights over the Federal Rights and Money and control was the main issue. The south had the most prosperous cotton, tobacco, and other crops that the north didn't have and the south was worried that the north would vote in a tariff. The north had manufacturing going its way and some say wanted to control or regulate the south. After the secession the war started I Have been a very unbiased student of the civil war. Only in modern times has slavery been an issue. Discrimination is another whole issue based on your background, family, religion, race and way more crap and ignorance that just doesn't have a place in today's real world.

If you want to know the facts about the Civil War, just find facts that have been there in libraries and historic documents. They are there if you seek the truth. Think about it. If slavery was a big issue back then why didn't the slaves have a revolution like America did in 1776. Now don't even think I believe that slavery was OK, but ask yourself the question. Is there slavery today from the government trying to control us in many ways. Just think about daylight savings time. Good for nothing except for the government to tell you to change your clock.

 

[bamafan4ever]

Oh, I'm sorry. I thought I logged into a forum about Alabama Sports.

 

[OldPlayer]

I would have loved to be a fly on the wall when the school called her mother to give her the news. Having the visual evidence was the icing on the cake.

 

[Tidestalker]

There are idiots everywhere.

It's a shame some feel the need to defend their school/program/community because of 1 (or a few) dip shit.

She will pay the price. Social Media... Everyone wants exposure...Many just get exposed. Be careful what you wish for

 

[JoshB]

No didn't sleep through 3rd grade. You have been misled by twisted sisters. Who's zooming who.

The Emancipation proclamation was a year after the war started and was used by the north as a war tactic to free the slaves in 10 southern states. Not northern states. Slavery was an issue only after the war started. It was believed that it would devastate the southern enemy. The Civil war was one of the bloodiest wars our country has ever endured. No way we would have fought a war over just slavery. States Rights over the Federal Rights and Money and control was the main issue. The south had the most prosperous cotton, tobacco, and other crops that the north didn't have and the south was worried that the north would vote in a tariff. The north had manufacturing going its way and some say wanted to control or regulate the south. After the secession the war started I Have been a very unbiased student of the civil war. Only in modern times has slavery been an issue. Discrimination is another whole issue based on your background, family, religion, race and way more crap and ignorance that just doesn't have a place in today's real world.

If you want to know the facts about the Civil War, just find facts that have been there in libraries and historic documents. They are there if you seek the truth. Think about it. If slavery was a big issue back then why didn't the slaves have a revolution like America did in 1776. Now don't even think I believe that slavery was OK, but ask yourself the question. Is there slavery today from the government trying to control us in many ways. Just think about daylight savings time. Good for nothing except for the government to tell you to change your clock.

Good lord. Almost all northern states had abolished slavery already. How anyone can honestly sit there and say "it was only an issue after the war started" yet slavery is not only in the confederate constitution but is also in the confederate declaration of secession. Four of the other states also released further declarations making their points clear and every single one of them talked about slavery and Lincoln's "abolitionism."

Confederate Vice President: Alexander Stephens: "Our new government was founded ON slavery."

One thing was true, it was about "states rights." Yes, the "states right" to own human beings. But know how much the confederate states gave a shit about other states rights? Mississippi whined to the federal govt. that New York's "states rights were too strong" because it prevented Mississippi pieces of shit that owned slaves from bringing their slaves through the state. The notion that slavery was not an issue until AFTER the war began is one of the most laughably wrong things I've ever read on here and buddy that is an accomplishment. I actually can't believe you said that and I dont think I've ever once saw or heard any person say that slavery was the ONLY issue leading or causing the war. It was a focal, central and primary reason.

I have spent my entire life here and my entire life I have heard grown men having revisionist history trying to pretend that this isnt the cause. We as a culture want to romanticize and celebrate TREASON and the defense of a horrendous evil our entire country was guilty of for far too long. I dont understand and honestly I'm just saddened that people like you still try to twist the history to paint a much more rosy picture and Im honestly sorry this thread which had nothing to do with this devolved into this. Respond to me if you want but Im done. Putting you on ignore.

But hey, I'll let Colonel Ty Seidule, head of history dept. at West Point school you since you obviously know so much more than me. I'm sure you know more than him:

 

[UAgrad93]

That sure escalated quickly!!

 

[alabama mike]

There is no place in our society for anybody posting, talking, writing this to anyone. I fine this language about another person repulsive.

 

[Sgt. Lincoln Osiris]

Too soon?

 

[Che Boludo]

Good lord. Almost all northern states had abolished slavery already. How anyone can honestly sit there and say "it was only an issue after the war started" yet slavery is not only in the confederate constitution but is also in the confederate declaration of secession. Four of the other states also released further declarations making their points clear and every single one of them talked about slavery and Lincoln's "abolitionism."

Confederate Vice President: Alexander Stephens: "Our new government was founded ON slavery."

One thing was true, it was about "states rights." Yes, the "states right" to own human beings. But know how much the confederate states gave a shit about other states rights? Mississippi whined to the federal govt. that New York's "states rights were too strong" because it prevented Mississippi pieces of shit that owned slaves from bringing their slaves through the state. The notion that slavery was not an issue until AFTER the war began is one of the most laughably wrong things I've ever read on here and buddy that is an accomplishment. I actually can't believe you said that and I dont think I've ever once saw or heard any person say that slavery was the ONLY issue leading or causing the war. It was a focal, central and primary reason.

I have spent my entire life here and my entire life I have heard grown men having revisionist history trying to pretend that this isnt the cause. We as a culture want to romanticize and celebrate TREASON and the defense of a horrendous evil our entire country was guilty of for far too long. I dont understand and honestly I'm just saddened that people like you still try to twist the history to paint a much more rosy picture and Im honestly sorry this thread which had nothing to do with this devolved into this. Respond to me if you want but Im done. Putting you on ignore.

But hey, I'll let Colonel Ty Seidule, head of history dept. at West Point school you since you obviously know so much more than me. I'm sure you know more than him:

All of this.

The institution of slavery was the right the southern states desired to protect. The debate in politics had been building with immense pressure since 1820 and the Missouri Compromise due to a balance of power issue between slave holding and non-slave holding states. But, it was the expansion of territories after the Mexican American War that truly lit the powder.

Ironically, as attested to in multiple declarations of cessation, it was a feeling of an inceasing hostility of non-slave states toward slave states that led to war. This hostility manifested in non-slave states denying passage of whites with slaves through parts of the country, but more aggregiously to slave states was a lack of compliance by non-slave states to return runaway slaves. Moreover, the federal government's lack of desire to impede on states rights, slave holding or no, and force states to return runaway slaves was the final straw. Yes, the South went to war because the Federal government wouldn't impede non-slave holding states rights.

As the VP of the CSA said in his cornerstone speech: "The new constitution has put at rest, forever, all the agitating questions relating to our peculiar institution African slavery as it exists amongst us the proper status of the negro in our form of civilization. This was the immediate cause of the late rupture and present revolution."

In spite if all reconstruction era propoganda, the war was over slavery and retaining a caste system where even the poorest white man could hold his head high knowing he was a superior race to the negros and anything but equal to them under God.

 

[jdpas29]

I promise that any of you a-holes that I don’t like, it’s because of the content of your character as evidenced by the words you type here in this forum.

Shalom

 

[planomateo]

I don't know if the University expelled her like it's being suggested.

Should a University/College be allowed to expel someone for a rant like this?

She did something really stupid and will have to deal with the ramifications of this for a while.

 

[sean]

I don't know if the University expelled her like it's being suggested.

Should a University/College be allowed to expel someone for a rant like this?

She did something really stupid and will have to deal with the ramifications of this for a while.

if they have it listed in their student handbook that anything resembling hate speech will not be tolerated, and the student can be punished, including up to expulsion, then they absolutely have a right to do so.

 

[TerryP]

Oh, I'm sorry. I thought I logged into a forum about Alabama Sports.

Considering it was a tweet from a football player that brought much of this story to light--at least that's what brought the attention--it is sort of football related.

I don't know if the University expelled her like it's being suggested.

Should a University/College be allowed to expel someone for a rant like this?

She did something really stupid and will have to deal with the ramifications of this for a while.

Suggested...or reported. A bunch of news outlets are going with the later.

Harley Barber, a 19-year-old freshman from Marlton, apologized Wednesday for her racist tirade and told the New York Post that the she was returning to New Jersey after being given the boot by the University.

I'll tell you what disturbs me a bit; "The Office of Student Conduct." It just carries an Orwellian type of tone.

 

[BamaFan334]

This is precisely why I just don't care anymore. One person says something stupid and thousands jump on them all while most likely casting stones in their own glass house at some point or another. Here's an idea and warning, don't fuck with my family and I don't care. Hurt my family, you'll suffer the consequences, but words won't do it. Goes back to the age old addage, actions speak louder than words.

 

[rocknthefreeworld]

Were it a private school I would support them expelling her. But this is a state school and therefore should have no right to punish any speech that is not a direct threat towards someone. Free speech is a terrific and horrible thing that must be protected. Now, the school should not have to protect her from the consequences of her speech so it would be best for her to leave anyway.

 

[TUSKtimes]

Free speech can get expensive. I'm not sure about the rehabilitation process here but a distinct message has been sent about the cost of doing business.

 

[RollllTide!]

But hey, I'll let Colonel Ty Seidule, head of history dept. at West Point school you since you obviously know so much more than me. I'm sure you know more than him:

Obviously I have offended you and didn't mean to. I am sorry if your feelings are hurt. This has been debated long before you or I was born. Sorry I can't take the word of a West Point Yankee Soldier. I'm a Navy man.

However Proof of what I said is easy to document. Do a fact check. War started April 1861 and Lincoln issued the Emancipation Proclamation on September 22, 1862 then final on January 1, 1863, which proclaimed the freedom of slaves in the ten states that were still in rebellion. However, it did not affect the status of slaves in the border states or northern states that had remained loyal to the Union. He didn't free the northern slaves until after the south surrendered.

 

[RollllTide!]

Too soon?

Yes Too Soon and you ain't right. :troutslap:

 

[Sgt. Lincoln Osiris]

Hey look, I just saw it getting heated a little bit in here, thought it needed to lighten up a bit.

Plus, the best way to attack sensitive subjects like this with some tongue-in-cheek humor. Nobody attacks sensitive issues like this better than Chapelle.

 

[RollllTide!]

I guess when I hear any talk about race or discrimination like this girl did at school, I think of how racism has been used by politicians to try to divide our country and they have had some success obviously, but if your heart is in the right place you can overcome it. Keep the faith and pray that one day being an American will mean all races. No Asian, Black, Red, or White American. Just American. (Alphabetical order) LOL