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[TerryP]

So when Slade Bolden who's listed as a WR comes in to play QB, and Mac Jones lines up at receiver.... is that cheating as well?

C'mon Terry.... You're reaching.

REGARDLESS - There was no reason to sub the D back in... Huge Coaching error on Saban's part in the common sense realm. It is what it is

How is it reaching when it is explicitly written in the rule book?

That was clearly a simulated substitution on fourth down to confuse the defense on a punting down. The Wildcat formation, with a guy lined up behind center, is confusing?

 

[Tidestalker]

How is it reaching when it is explicitly written in the rule book?

That was clearly a simulated substitution on fourth down to confuse the defense on a punting down. The Wildcat formation, with a guy lined up behind center, is confusing?

Not to me. Neither is what Auburn did.

 

[TerryP]

Not to me. Neither is what Auburn did.

So, if I understand you correctly, you're staring the rule right in the face and saying, "nope." Am I correct?

Is the rule written in a tense you don't understand? In this very thread it's described as a trick play in a sense. A deceptive move with substitutions. It's clearly written that's not allowed. But, in this case, the rule doesn't apply according to your belief.

Explain that one to me.

 

[PurlJam]

How is it reaching when it is explicitly written in the rule book?

That was clearly a simulated substitution on fourth down to confuse the defense on a punting down. The Wildcat formation, with a guy lined up behind center, is confusing?

Direct quote from article written by an Auburn beat writer.

"Malzahn's plan was simple: confuse Alabama and make the Tide keep the defense on the field. If that happens, motion Siposs into the backfield and let him punt it with the defense on the field. A punt with no returner would burn precious seconds off the clock and allow Auburn to pin the Tide deep in their own territory."

 

[Tidestalker]

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So, if I understand you correctly, you're staring the rule right in the face and saying, "nope." Am I correct?

Is the rule written in a tense you don't understand? In this very thread it's described as a trick play in a sense. A deceptive move with substitutions. It's clearly written that's not allowed. But, in this case, the rule doesn't apply according to your belief.

Explain that one to me.

TP - There's a lot of grey area in that rule... Which is likely why you've never seen it applied.

As I've already pointed out to you, every trick play is deceptive. Including the wildcat which we ran earlier in the game.

In this case - if you really want to get down to it, didn't their QB punt it early in the game? So should that have been a penalty? Is he not allowed to have the threat of punting because he's not the punter?

And like I've said before - It really wasn't confusing. AUBURN HAD NO PLANS TO RUN A PLAY. That, to me, is why it wasn't confusing.

 

[rick4bama]

He a backyard coach!

 

[Tidestalker]

The distinction here lies in the point Slade is lined up behind center. He's an offensive player. He's not a punter. He's not on a specific special teams unit.

It was Auburn's intent to run that specific scenario. It's been mentioned a few times both in the game and afterwards.

A little context here on how I stumbled across the rule.

I've got a guy I know who lives a couple of blocks from me who also owns a "watering hole" a few miles from the house. I went up there this morning to talk about some Facebook marketing options he has for his business and how to, successfully, advertise a bar without violating Facebook rules.

While I was in there another guy I know brought the subject up. He asked if I'd seen that specific rule. I had not and looked it up while I was up there. Lo and behold it read exactly as he said it did.

Now, I understand you're trying to be a bit argumentative here because of my quoting your "Ding, Ding, Ding" and the subsequent reply of "no, it was a Doink." A bit of a shot at you, I'll admit. It was in good fun.

However, in this particular case I am going to defer to the guy I just ran into in a bar. Why? It has to do with who he is. It just so happens he used to be the head coach at Baylor. He served as the offensive coordinator at UofSC and Clemson (under Danny Ford.) He finished his career as the head coach of Goose Creek High School.

With all due respect to you, I'm going to defer to his opinion on the matter. After all, he's made a career in football. ya know?

All that said, if I'm able to get over to West Ashley this afternoon there's one more person I'm going to ask about this. Penn Wagers, former SEC referee. I'm interested in his opinion as well and he has a weekly gig with a local sports show. IF I'm able.

That's all fine and dandy. But TP you have to admit, have you EVER seen this rule used? Or your coaching buddy, has he EVER? I highly doubt it. I'd compare it to J-walking in real life... Happens all the time, people are never arrested.

The issue is that no matter how you slice it - We had 12 dudes on the field after the dust settled. Like no matter what, that's not allowed.

The flag was thrown with 8 seconds left and we had PLENTY of time to get down to 11. Watch the play - Nix was sitting in shotgun for a good 5 seconds before the penalty. It wasn't all that tricky aside from having the punter at WR... Which again, we put our QB at WR... Auburn has used their QB as a punter... ETC. All normal football stuff.

Saban got tricked into a silly penalty. I'll give you this - It was borderline illegal.... As by the rule, many trick plays are.... But it was fully avoidable. Easily avoidable in fact. It is what it is. Saban got bamboozled.

 

[We All Bleed Crimson]

Refs gave them 3 by adding a non-moving 1 second back on the clock.
Two pick 6s fired the barn players big-time.
One missed kick at the end of the game is not the worst part of the loss.

It is true, however, that West Tech State university can find a kicker who can hit 40 to 45 yard kicks pretty consistently and we, the premier program of the 2010s, cannot.

For Bulovas' sake, I hope that he has a career day in the bowl game and the Tide plays with purpose. Let's finish strong! Roll Tide!!!

 

[Rolltide24]

Is it that different than a Player lining up at QB and punting? Isn’t that just as confusing... Never seen that rule enforced. Did CNS even reference it?