🏈 'Bama backlash,and more.

[252BAMA]

"The way all of this is going, it seems highly unlikely the NCAA will severely punish USC even if all the accusations against Reggie Bush prove true. I'm guessing a poo-poo platter of scholarship reductions and vacated wins. If the NCAA finds evidence Bush was ineligible during the 2004 season, USC could be forced to vacate that season's BCS title. But guess what? No one will have to give back their rings, and the Trojans still thumped Oklahoma in the Orange Bowl.
Bowl and television bans are the only truly meaningful penalties remaining. The NCAA hit 'Bama with a bowl ban after the Albert Means scandal, but it's difficult to believe the NCAA would have done that had that case happened in 2008 instead of 2000. The financial stakes are too high now. So unless the NCAA uncovers video of a USC coach saying, "Hey, can you give Reggie some money?" to an agent, don't count on anything too serious. Besides, the Trojans already have made their sacrificial offering in the form of former basketball coach Tim Floyd."

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/writers/andy_staples/06/15/mailbag/index.html

Could not agree more with the next to last sentence in above quote------
So unless the NCAA uncovers video of a USC coach saying, "Hey, can you give Reggie some money?" to an agent, don't count on anything too serious.

 

[joeman546]

Why are people trying to equate what happened with Alabama and the textbook thing to the free money bush got and say since Bama wasnt hammered, USC wont be either.

Thats like saying that since the guy jaywalking only got a fine, that serial killer will only get a minor fine too.

 

[TerryP]

Precedent for an agent involved with players is found in a few places. Michigan, and how they got slammed and then you have Florida with Tank Black.

What strikes me as interesting is the fact that Rich Johanningmeir doesn't need a witness stating he heard a coach do this. He'll gladly accept the word of anyone as evidenced with our dealing with the Means case.

I mentioned this the other day in the USC thread here.

What really caught my attention in the last week is the same guy that was involved with Mayo was involved with another USC player a few years ago. For their compliance department to continue to allow this guy around the program really indicates a lack of oversight.

For every person that says "look at the person Lake is with Bush" I have to consider look at the person Lang was with Means.

 

[252BAMA]

Why are people trying to equate what happened with Alabama and the textbook thing to the free money bush got and say since Bama wasnt hammered, USC wont be either.

Thats like saying that since the guy jaywalking only got a fine, that serial killer will only get a minor fine too.

The comarison to Bush was with the Means case, not the textbooks.

 

[planomateo]

For their compliance department to continue to allow this guy around the program really indicates a lack of oversight.

or "lack of institutional control"......

 

[TerryP]

or "lack of institutional control"......

I didn't use that on purpose because the subject was about Bush and there isn't anything that we know of that links any staff members at USC to his situation.

NOW, with Floyd it's a different story.

I'd think, if they make a move with the ath. dept. in regards to Bush it would fall more under failure to monitor.

 

[joeman546]

The comarison to Bush was with the Means case, not the textbooks.

For this instance you are correct, I suppose I was quick to judge this as another rehashing of the NCAA getting soft using us as evidence, mainly because it has happened so much lately. Actually, I do believe the article my complaint wouldve been appropriate for HAS been written. So eh.

EDIT: Also, if memory serves right, the article I mentioned was written in sports illustrated as well as this one.