🏈 🏈 FALL CAMP 2019 🏈 Tide preps for season opener

[TerryP]

I'd like to know how many of those carries were Josh Jacobs.....

I don't know. It was one of the metrics being covered by ESPN in the last 24 hours.

 

[TUSKtimes]

Watch how simple this is.

Bama, arguably, has the best QB WR tandem in the nation in Tua and Jeudy. It has the best QB and WR corps situation in the nation.
Alabama will feature its most talented players on offense; Tua and the wide receivers.
The running game will be based off of the passing game this season just as it was last season.

Last season, when Jeudy was on the field, Alabama averaged two more yards per carry than they did when Jeudy wasn't on the field. The passing game, setting up the running game.

It can't be made simpler.

There has to be a good reason you continue to gloss over the full statements I make in the quotes you chose to abbreviate into senselessness. Perhaps it's to get yourself a singular platform to be profound about? Either address my points of interest or be happy with your continued single word themes. Either way, I find your personal replies more and more disingenuous to the discussion.

 

[TerryP]

There has to be a good reason you continue to gloss over the full statements I make in the quotes you chose to abbreviate into senselessness. Perhaps it's to get yourself a singular platform to be profound about? Either address my points of interest or be happy with your continued single word themes. Either way, I find your personal replies more and more disingenuous to the discussion.

This was answered clearly and concisely.

Nothing will be simple about it. The biggest question is what kind of football you want to play? The balance we chose to practice will say everything about our offensive and defensive identity this season.

If you find the information I'm sharing with you about how the offense will be ran in 2019 to be disingenuous because it contradicts your opinion it's yet another situation where I can offer no help.

The biggest question is what kind of football you want to play? The balance we chose to practice will say everything about our offensive and defensive identity this season

They going to feature an offense that is based off of the passing game. The passing game will set up the run game. That is the type of football this staff wants to play, and will play.

The balance they've shown in practices has been a passing offense to set up a running attack.

What's written here. How clear, concise, and simple is it? The thing about it...

It's not news. It's not new. It's not secret.

 

[Max]

I find your personal replies more and more disingenuous to the discussion.

So you're finding out things about the team and how the offense is going to operate this season and the impression you're left with is legitimate news is disingenuous. Got it.

 

[TUSKtimes]

This was answered clearly and concisely.



If you find the information I'm sharing with you about how the offense will be ran in 2019 to be disingenuous because it contradicts your opinion it's yet another situation where I can offer no help.



They going to feature an offense that is based off of the passing game. The passing game will set up the run game. That is the type of football this staff wants to play, and will play.

The balance they've shown in practices has been a passing offense to set up a running attack.

What's written here. How clear, concise, and simple is it? The thing about it...

It's not news. It's not new. It's not secret.

So what Terry? So what changes? Are you too shy to tell us some of this valuable intel? Last season, the team did not finish the Bama way. So, what's the point? There will be specific reasons this staff and team do things differently, beyond your redundancy.

Last season we could not run the football on our terms. We were not physical enough, tough enough at the LOS to do it. We got turned away in the red zone too much when it counted most and especially against elite defenses because we were too much finesse and not enough road grader. Beyond losing valuable points, we often left a young and sometimes confused defense on the field for too many snaps in the 2nd halves of games, because we also didn't control the TOP when it got most important.

That's the adjustments our brand new OC is going to have to make. It won't be simple and he'll earn his millions if he makes enough offensive adjustments throughout the season so we are that team. If you got some valuable special intel on that philosophical offensive dilemma, I'm all ears.

 

[TUSKtimes]

So you're finding out things about the team and how the offense is going to operate this season and the impression you're left with is legitimate news is disingenuous. Got it.

You really don't like me, now do you? Go ahead, just say it? Go ahead, say it, just say, you don't really like me, go ahead, I can take it, just say, TUSK, I don't really like you? Go ahead, I dare you, you'll probably feel better, I'm trying to help you emotionally here, just say it, go ahead, just say, TUSK, I don't like you, go ahead, you can do it, I don't like you.

 

[NickelDoubleDog]

So what Terry? So what changes? Are you too shy to tell us some of this valuable intel? Last season, the team did not finish the Bama way. So, what's the point? There will be specific reasons this staff and team do things differently, beyond your redundancy.

Last season we could not run the football on our terms. We were not physical enough, tough enough at the LOS to do it. We got turned away in the red zone too much when it counted most and especially against elite defenses because we were too much finesse and not enough road grader. Beyond losing valuable points, we often left a young and sometimes confused defense on the field for too many snaps in the 2nd halves of games, because we also didn't control the TOP when it got most important.

That's the adjustments our brand new OC is going to have to make. It won't be simple and he'll earn his millions if he makes enough offensive adjustments throughout the season so we are that team. If you got some valuable special intel on that philosophical offensive dilemma, I'm all ears.

I don't disagree with most of that.

Still, the fix to this can and will be accomplished by the pass setting up the run. This offense will be able to run more on its terms rather than the defense's terms, which will fix some of the issues. Play design, personnel, and execution will fix the rest. The offense will be deadly through the air, but I suspect far fewer called runs that become X slant with the RPO tags because things will be blocked up better, the OL will be more physical, and that will result in more efficiency.

 

[TerryP]

So what Terry? So what changes? Are you too shy to tell us some of this valuable intel? Last season, the team did not finish the Bama way. So, what's the point? There will be specific reasons this staff and team do things differently, beyond your redundancy.

Last season we could not run the football on our terms. We were not physical enough, tough enough at the LOS to do it. We got turned away in the red zone too much when it counted most and especially against elite defenses because we were too much finesse and not enough road grader. Beyond losing valuable points, we often left a young and sometimes confused defense on the field for too many snaps in the 2nd halves of games, because we also didn't control the TOP when it got most important.

That's the adjustments our brand new OC is going to have to make. It won't be simple and he'll earn his millions if he makes enough offensive adjustments throughout the season so we are that team. If you got some valuable special intel on that philosophical offensive dilemma, I'm all ears.

What you've stated here isn't news. It's been addressed, last Saturday in fact, by Coach Saban himself. He has not said anything last spring, this summer, or this fall that's been different in any regard to the running game: "we have to run it more effectively in the red." That's been echoed here by everyone.

I think the key to the drill in the Red Zone is that you've got to be able to run the ball. If you can't run the ball in the red area where the field shrinks, it gets really hard to throw it down there. The windows get small. You've got to get rid of the ball more quickly, make quicker decisions. Everything closes up faster. When you can run the ball and create favorable down and distances, you've got a better chance to keep defenses off balance. That's one area we want to improve in on both sides of the ball, is red area efficiency.

We're still going to see more rushing attempts than passing attempts. We're still going to see more passing yards than rushing yards. That is the offense. There are a few tweaks we'll see. But those aren't secret either. Sark, as well as Saban, wants more play action. Sark, as well as Saban, wants more progressive reads. That's not a change in philosophy because the emphasis of the offense is still based on the passing game. It certainly is a case of honing Tua's skill set.

I believe you're encapsulating a season based on one game; Clemson. Fact is, the team was better scoring touchdowns in the red zone last year than the year previous but did have small drop in efficiency: scored 82% of the time last year, 85% of the time in '17. (Note, in 2015 it was 82%:
a title year.)

There isn't any mystery or secret scheme when it comes to Bama's offense this season. In fact, it's more transparent this season than it's been in Saban's tenure (with consideration given to JPW.)

 

[Max]

You really don't like me, now do you? Go ahead, just say it? Go ahead, say it, just say, you don't really like me, go ahead, I can take it, just say, TUSK, I don't really like you? Go ahead, I dare you, you'll probably feel better, I'm trying to help you emotionally here, just say it, go ahead, just say, TUSK, I don't like you, go ahead, you can do it, I don't like you.

beyond your redundancy.

To be clear, it's shit like this that continually proves you are a dick.

I don't like it when you choose to be a dick. You often do. No one cares for a snide personality, least of all me.

 

[TUSKtimes]

I don't disagree with most of that.

Still, the fix to this can and will be accomplished by the pass setting up the run. This offense will be able to run more on its terms rather than the defense's terms, which will fix some of the issues. Play design, personnel, and execution will fix the rest. The offense will be deadly through the air, but I suspect far fewer called runs that become X slant with the RPO tags because things will be blocked up better, the OL will be more physical, and that will result in more efficiency.

I would say that for Sark to get all this done, it will be coming out of a lot of new ideas.

As far as pass/run ratio, I suspect Sark will be flexible enough in our offensive approach to let the defense pick their poison. That too will be a novel approach from last year's result.

 

[TUSKtimes]

What you've stated here isn't news. It's been addressed, last Saturday in fact, by Coach Saban himself. He has not said anything last spring, this summer, or this fall that's been different in any regard to the running game: "we have to run it more effectively in the red." That's been echoed here by everyone.

I wasn't trying to create new light. It was a specific discussion that things have to change. But I think you knew that.

We're still going to see more rushing attempts than passing attempts. We're still going to see more passing yards than rushing yards. That is the offense. There are a few tweaks we'll see. But those aren't secret either. Sark, as well as Saban, wants more play action. Sark, as well as Saban, wants more progressive reads. That's not a change in philosophy because the emphasis of the offense is still based on the passing game. It certainly is a case of honing Tua's skill set.

Which doesn't change the dynamics of an offensive philosophical change in the least. AJ McCarron had games that were skewed toward the passing side. It wasn't the definition of being unbalanced. It was the definition of defenses picking their poison while Bama controlled the LOS for both sides of the ball. A big deal once upon a time.

We're still going to see more rushing attempts than passing attempts. We're still going to see more passing yards than rushing yards. That is the offense. There are a few tweaks we'll see. But those aren't secret either. Sark, as well as Saban, wants more play action. Sark, as well as Saban, wants more progressive reads. That's not a change in philosophy because the emphasis of the offense is still based on the passing game. It certainly is a case of honing Tua's skill set.

We were in a finesse HUNH RPO scheme most of the year. Morphing out of that is dramatic enough in itself to get a lot more done on the offensive side.

I believe you're encapsulating a season based on one game; Clemson. Fact is, the team was better scoring touchdowns in the red zone last year than the year previous but did have small drop in efficiency: scored 82% of the time last year, 85% of the time in '17. (Note, in 2015 it was 82%:
a title year.)

Could have just as easily caught up with us vs Georgia or Oklahoma. The blueprint got around at the latter part of the year. Not every team could do much about it. The biggest problem was with the best offensive talent in college football, we just couldn't finesse our way out of the Clemson game. The truth is if Jalen vs georgia hadn't come in and offered us another way to power run the football it's not likely we are SEC champs right now. The dawgs had to respect the whole field once again and couldn't finish the job.

There isn't any mystery or secret scheme when it comes to Bama's offense this season. In fact, it's more transparent this season than it's been in Saban's tenure (with consideration given to JPW.)

Put a name to the scheme?

 

[Max]

I would say that for Sark to get all this done, it will be coming out of a lot of new ideas.

Sark: So now, are you defending the play action pass because we're running the football well and the commitment to running the football well. Are you defending the RPO? Are you defending the full progression reads of the offense.

That's not a new idea. It's a matter of adding to what's there. He points out the goal is to get the ball into the receivers hands. We've always had a strong running game and will continue to this season. But the best part of this offense is the passing game and that's what Bama will be known for this season just like it was last year.

 

[Tidestalker]

Any chance we get under center and give the RB's a head start? Set up some nasty play actions also...

Of all our starting RB's over the years, I'm less confident in Najee.... However, I do think the shotgun handoffs fit him because of his start/stop style.

 

[TUSKtimes]

I don't like it when you choose to be a dick. You often do. No one cares for a snide personality, least of all me.

And I sincerely doubt your sincerity. Perhaps it's because you just don't jump in on any of my posts but the ones your most critical of.

Here's where I think I can help you the most. I'll make a promise with you right now. I promise not to give a crapola about any future post you make and will be most happy to ignore your intellectual curiosity, in any post, entirely, if you will only repay in kind.

Problem solved.

 

[TUSKtimes]

That's not a new idea. It's a matter of adding to what's there. He points out the goal is to get the ball into the receivers hands. We've always had a strong running game and will continue to this season. But the best part of this offense is the passing game and that's what Bama will be known for this season just like it was last year.

Too late. Save it for someone who gives a crapola.

 

[TerryP]

Could have just as easily caught up with us vs Georgia or Oklahoma. The blueprint got around at the latter part of the year. Not every team could do much about it. The biggest problem was with the best offensive talent in college football, we just couldn't finesse our way out of the Clemson game. The truth is if Jalen vs georgia hadn't come in and offered us another way to power run the football it's not likely we are SEC champs right now. The dawgs had to respect the whole field once again and couldn't finish the job.

Georgia:

In Jalen's first series we saw a couple of passes for 30-35 yards which led to two runs of about 20. That was followed by a 10 yard touchdown pass.

His last series had two runs for little to no gain, then two passes for another 30-35 yards followed by his 15 yard quarterback sneak.

The passing game was setting up the running game. His sneak, hardly a power football move, set up by the passing game (in shotgun, faked he was dropping back more, and then ran.)

Oklahoma:

They weren't stopping the passing game. They didn't stop the running game. They didn't have a defense capable of catching Bama at anything. Georgia fielded one as did Clemson.

Put a name to the scheme?

A name to the scheme? There's a system, but not what I'd call a "scheme." It's not the Erhardt-Perkins offense, but it is a continuing modification of the Erhardt-Perkins scheme. (You see it in New England with the Patriots.)

I'm paraphrasing Chris Brown here and it's loosely but I think you'll get the point. Over the years the system has been philosophically neutral, so to speak. We've seen conservative approaches that resulted in quarterbacks being labeled "game managers." We've seen the spread. We've seen up-tempo, no huddle. The approach, however, has remained the same. It's a system designed to feature the areas were the most talent was/is found. That extends to the sidelines as well as exampled by Kiffin and his innate sense of knowing how passing routes would open up.

New England doesn't have a scheme. However, if you look at what Weis did with their system it's the best picture I can come up with to compare to Bama's offensive style this fall. It was a motivating reason for hiring DaBoll.

In a nutshell it's playing to your personnel.

 

[NickelDoubleDog]

Any chance we get under center and give the RB's a head start? Set up some nasty play actions also...

Of all our starting RB's over the years, I'm less confident in Najee.... However, I do think the shotgun handoffs fit him because of his start/stop style.

You'll see the QB under center some for sure. That's a hallmark of some of the nasty run and PAP game Sark and Lane had going back to USC. Their split zone package especially was always beautiful

 

[JoshB]

Have absolutely no idea what "disservice to the talent on hand" means in the long run. Last season the "disservice" felt a lot like our failure to beat Clemson for the NC.

When you have four first round picks playing out wide and a generational talent at QB, you still cant see how it would be a "disservice" to force the run more just to force it?

 

[TerryP]

@BamaMD, @BamaBoyJosh,



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[NickelDoubleDog]

I would say that for Sark to get all this done, it will be coming out of a lot of new ideas.

As far as pass/run ratio, I suspect Sark will be flexible enough in our offensive approach to let the defense pick their poison. That too will be a novel approach from last year's result.

Not apt of new ideas. Ideas revisited.

With RPOs defenses are always picking their poison. But running when you want to run it, and doing that successfully, will come from better OL coaching, more OL talent and depth, and then by scheme adjustments