🏈 All-time Scoring Records Watch: Adam Griffith

[It Takes Eleven]

Halfway through a potential 14 game season, Adam Griffith has a shot at the all-time single season scoring record. Before Henry shattered it last year with 168 points (on 28 TDs), Leigh Tiffin held the record with 132 points. Griffith currently has 89 points. He had 131 last year.

Griffith has a career total of 284 points, placing him currently in 6th place for kicking and 8th overall. He stands a good chance to end up second in all-time points.

CAREER SCORING LEADERS (Kicking Only)
385 Leigh Tiffin (83 FGs, 136 PATs) 2006-09
339 Philip Doyle (78 FGs, 105 PATs) 1987-90
326 Michael Proctor (65 FGs, 131 PATs) 1992-95
312 Van Tiffin (59 FGs, 135 PATs) 1983-86
304 Jeremy Shelley (44 FGs, 172 PATs) 2009-12
211 Bill Davis (26 FGs, 133 PATs) 1971-73

CAREER (All Scoring)
385 Leigh Tiffin (83 FGs, 136 PATs) 2006-09
345 Philip Doyle (1 TD, 78 FGs, 105 PATs) 1987-90
326 Michael Proctor (65 FGs, 131 PATs) 1992-95
312 Van Tiffin (59 FGs, 135 PATs) 1983-86
304 Jeremy Shelley (44 FGs, 172 PATs) 2009-12
300 Shaun Alexander (50 TDs) 1996-99
290 Derrick Henry 2013-15
276 Mark Ingram (46 TDs) 2008-10
260 Trent Richardson (43 TDs, 1 2-Pt.) 2009-11
242 Bobby Humphrey (40 TDs, 2 2-Pt.) 1985-88
232 Johnny Musso (38 TDs, 2 2-Pt.) 1969-71

 

[BamaFan334]

Just think what he could have accomplished if he actually made half his kicks.

 

[It Takes Eleven]

Just think what he could have accomplished if he actually made half his kicks.

He'd be about thirty points lighter in his total scoring if he only made half of them.

 

[rick4bama]

On the Nick Saban show last night. Saban has nothing but high praise about Griffith. He talk about missing FG, but he said that Griff bring a lot to the team. If you can you need to watch his show.

 

[It Takes Eleven]

On the Nick Saban show last night. Saban has nothing but high praise about Griffith. He talk about missing FG, but he said that Griff bring a lot to the team. If you can you need to watch his show.

His percentage of touchbacks is crazy high, unheard of at Bama before him.

 

[mhardiman]

345 Philip Doyle (1 TD, 78 FGs, 105 PATs) 1987-90

Doyle with a touchdown? I hate I don't remember that.

 

[BamaFan334]

He'd be about thirty points lighter in his total scoring if he only made half of them.

You know what I'm getting at.

 

[It Takes Eleven]

You know what I'm getting at.

You're getting at you have a problem with his accuracy. He has averaged 2 out of 3, not half of them. Historically, go look at what Bama kickers do and you'll realize you're unhappy because he's the current kicker, not that he's bad kicker when he's compared to others. Leigh Tiffin was vilified on message boards and he holds almost every kicking record. He got an even worse deal than Griffith because he had one horrible game.

***** Added Comment *****
I'll add (completely unrelated to your post, but I didn't quit when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor) that any time people complain about a QB's accuracy or production (see Blake or Coker, or hell, look at folks who were complaining about Zow - who ended up as our all-time passer). Then again, folks complain about a young back (like Harris last year) not "looking like a 5 star" or "he'll never start" to take a full look at those who preceded them *as they were as freshmen*. People complained that Trent didn't hit the hole well as a freshman. He turned out okay. I love Harris' vision, Jacobs' motor and desire, Bo's growing confidence and Emmons' work ethic.

History teaches wonderful lessons for those willing to read, and learn.

RTR,

Tim

 

[It Takes Eleven]

Doyle with a touchdown? I hate I don't remember that.

That was a paste from the record book, I didn't notice it. I don't remember it either.

 

[It Takes Eleven]

That was a paste from the record book, I didn't notice it. I don't remember it either.

Okay, his best two years that show in the record book are 89 and 90 - no TDs in his scoring line. If it's correct, it would have to have happened in 88 or 87. On a quest.

 

[PhillyGirl]

Griffith might have a few issues (who wouldnt after 2013's .. well, you know) but he's one of my favorite players on the team. Great story, great character, and great player. Plus, that insanely clutch kick in #16.

Would love to see him break this record.

 

[PhillyGirl]

Interesting article:

Adam Griffith: Alabama Football's Hero or Zero?

 

[It Takes Eleven]

Okay, his best two years that show in the record book are 89 and 90 - no TDs in his scoring line. If it's correct, it would have to have happened in 88 or 87. On a quest.

Okay, I'm embarrassed. 1988 Kentucky game, the one where we got behind and had to make a last minute comeback to win. Chris Mohr as holder threw a 12 yard TD pass to Doyle on a fake FG. Vince Sutton threw the biggest duck I've seen trying to lead us on a final drive. Richardson spotted it and was able to come back to the ball. Sutton hit another "couldn't miss" pro QB in Gene Newberry, who by that time had converted to receiver, for the TD and the win. 4th down play, end of the game, we win.

Why am I embarrassed? I was there! It was the only game I've ever watched in Lexington.

http://grfx.cstv.com/schools/alab/graphics/docs/88-m-footbl-recaps.pdf

RTR,

Tim

 

[BamaFan334]

You're getting at you have a problem with his accuracy. He has averaged 2 out of 3, not half of them. Historically, go look at what Bama kickers do and you'll realize you're unhappy because he's the current kicker, not that he's bad kicker when he's compared to others. Leigh Tiffin was vilified on message boards and he holds almost every kicking record. He got an even worse deal than Griffith because he had one horrible game.

***** Added Comment *****
I'll add (completely unrelated to your post, but I didn't quit when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor) that any time people complain about a QB's accuracy or production (see Blake or Coker, or hell, look at folks who were complaining about Zow - who ended up as our all-time passer). Then again, folks complain about a young back (like Harris last year) not "looking like a 5 star" or "he'll never start" to take a full look at those who preceded them *as they were as freshmen*. People complained that Trent didn't hit the hole well as a freshman. He turned out okay. I love Harris' vision, Jacobs' motor and desire, Bo's growing confidence and Emmons' work ethic.

History teaches wonderful lessons for those willing to read, and learn.

RTR,

Tim

If you lined our team up, he's the weakest link, period. If the game came down to a kick, I honestly think I'd rather throw the ball up for grabs. He's a senior and I put more trust by far in a freshman quarterback. I have never villified a player first and foremost. I have him had some not ao nice words for Griffith, but nothing aimed at him that he hasn't most likely said to himself. Sure, Marlon Humphrey and Ronnie Harrison have pissed me off, but I have never talked trash about quarterbacks like Sims, Hurts, or Coker or anyone else to the point of being so pissed off I wished them bad or bad fortune. I feel as if Griffith has been gifted the opportunity and he has not maintained the standard his fellow teammates have been. Any starter have a pass/fail rate like his, they still starting? I was making more of a joke than anything. We luckily haven't been forced to rely on his foot 100%, but I can say with confidence I don't trust him, it's as simple as that. Say what you want about stats, but he's been given so many opportunities to score points, it's not like some Herculean effort or the definition of efficiency in my eyes. Of course, we all have our opinions.

 

[It Takes Eleven]

If you lined our team up, he's the weakest link, period. If the game came down to a kick, I honestly think I'd rather throw the ball up for grabs. He's a senior and I put more trust by far in a freshman quarterback. I have never villified a player first and foremost. I have him had some not ao nice words for Griffith, but nothing aimed at him that he hasn't most likely said to himself. Sure, Marlon Humphrey and Ronnie Harrison have pissed me off, but I have never talked trash about quarterbacks like Sims, Hurts, or Coker or anyone else to the point of being so pissed off I wished them bad or bad fortune. I feel as if Griffith has been gifted the opportunity and he has not maintained the standard his fellow teammates have been. Any starter have a pass/fail rate like his, they still starting? I was making more of a joke than anything. We luckily haven't been forced to rely on his foot 100%, but I can say with confidence I don't trust him, it's as simple as that. Say what you want about stats, but he's been given so many opportunities to score points, it's not like some Herculean effort or the definition of efficiency in my eyes. Of course, we all have our opinions.

First, remember everything I said about other players wasn't related to your post, just the info on Griffith.

You don't trust Griffith. That's how you feel. I can't argue with that. You believe he's fallen short of the team's standard. He's a little better than 2 out of 3 on career FGs. You think that stinks. You have the right to think that. He's in pretty good company with a good number of other stinking Alabama kickers. Some guy named Van Tiffin was 17 for 26 (65%) in 1985. Probably not the weakest link on the '85 team.

This is from an offseason post regarding the 2015 season:
Griffith was a little over 71 percent on his FG attempts, 2-2 from over 50, and tied the record with a 55 yarder without a tee. His touchback percentage may be the best ever for Bama, certainly since they moved the KO back. Last year he kicked off 100 times, 55 touchbacks (one was kicked short, nicely). '10 Foster 84 KO, 10 TB. '08 Tiffin 75 and TWO. '05 Christenson 50 and 14 (not a misprint - 50 kickoffs - and it wasn't a strike shortened season).

When it comes to FG and PAT, success is binary - good or not. Good or goat. It's never automatic when you're kicking a FG.

Now, I've forgotten to mention that Griffith hasn't missed a PAT since that one in 2014. He's currently 155 out of 156. He'll be the all-time record holder by season's end, getting past Jeremy Shelley's 172 PAT's (out of 175 tries). Second place was Leigh Tiffin, who had 136 out of 142 attempts.

I don't think he's the weakest link on the team. Just my opinion.

RTR,

Tim

 

[BamaFan334]

First, remember everything I said about other players wasn't related to your post, just the info on Griffith.

You don't trust Griffith. That's how you feel. I can't argue with that. You believe he's fallen short of the team's standard. He's a little better than 2 out of 3 on career FGs. You think that stinks. You have the right to think that. He's in pretty good company with a good number of other stinking Alabama kickers. Some guy named Van Tiffin was 17 for 26 (65%) in 1985. Probably not the weakest link on the '85 team.

This is from an offseason post regarding the 2015 season:
Griffith was a little over 71 percent on his FG attempts, 2-2 from over 50, and tied the record with a 55 yarder without a tee. His touchback percentage may be the best ever for Bama, certainly since they moved the KO back. Last year he kicked off 100 times, 55 touchbacks (one was kicked short, nicely). '10 Foster 84 KO, 10 TB. '08 Tiffin 75 and TWO. '05 Christenson 50 and 14 (not a misprint - 50 kickoffs - and it wasn't a strike shortened season).

When it comes to FG and PAT, success is binary - good or not. Good or goat. It's never automatic when you're kicking a FG.

Now, I've forgotten to mention that Griffith hasn't missed a PAT since that one in 2014. He's currently 155 out of 156. He'll be the all-time record holder by season's end, getting past Jeremy Shelley's 172 PAT's (out of 175 tries). Second place was Leigh Tiffin, who had 136 out of 142 attempts.

I don't think he's the weakest link on the team. Just my opinion.

RTR,

Tim

Well when you grade out a guy, I think you need to hold him to some kind of standard. Sure, other kickers is a way, but those were different times different elements, and different circumstances. Him being a record holder doesn't mean he'll go down as an all time great. Maybe he's been give more chances. 2-3 may look good, oh, only one miss, but it's still a failing grade and adds up in the long run, like 6-10 or 7-10 depending how you want to weigh it. Extra points are supposed to be gimmes in my eyes, especially if the snap and hold are there. I don't dislike the guy and glad he has worked to where he has gotten due to the horrible events going down in his life. I respect the guy a ton actually. Getting a Bachelor and Graduate degree in my eyes makes him a hero in today's society, because he simply could have reverted back to old habits and went in a direction negatively affecting society. I also want to say I hope he kicks his butt off the rest of the season and earns another ring. With all that being said, I still see him as an unknown when he comes on the field, you just never know what to expect.

Out of curiosity, who do you think the weak link to our team is?

 

[It Takes Eleven]

Well when you grade out a guy, I think you need to hold him to some kind of standard. Sure, other kickers is a way, but those were different times different elements, and different circumstances. Him being a record holder doesn't mean he'll go down as an all time great. Maybe he's been give more chances. 2-3 may look good, oh, only one miss, but it's still a failing grade and adds up in the long run, like 6-10 or 7-10 depending how you want to weigh it. Extra points are supposed to be gimmes in my eyes, especially if the snap and hold are there. I don't dislike the guy and glad he has worked to where he has gotten due to the horrible events going down in his life. I respect the guy a ton actually. Getting a Bachelor and Graduate degree in my eyes makes him a hero in today's society, because he simply could have reverted back to old habits and went in a direction negatively affecting society. I also want to say I hope he kicks his butt off the rest of the season and earns another ring. With all that being said, I still see him as an unknown when he comes on the field, you just never know what to expect.

Out of curiosity, who do you think the weak link to our team is?

Our fans.

 

[BamaFan334]

Our fans.

Didn't realize fans were part of the team, but ok.

 

[It Takes Eleven]

Didn't realize fans were part of the team, but ok.

I'm just having fun. I hope you don't take offense.

I don't know our full depth chart well enough to know why others are playing ahead of others, and I don't know the players well enough to proclaim one a liabilty; however, over the years I believe the coaching staff sees enough potential in a young guy to throw him out there in a key position even though he's making mistakes. Cyrus was like that early. Eddie was like that early at corner. More than one offensive lineman over the years has fit that description, and watching a linebacker struggle with assignments and coverages is pretty evident. This year, I see Diggs out of position a good bit and needing extra help getting lined up. He's an explosive player with a bright future, but right now I can see him trying to feel his way out around the field. One of the more noticeable instances, at least in my mind, during the UT game, late third quarter when Hurts made a nice throw on a deep out route Diggs was running into the pattern area. Clearly in the wrong place, bringing an extra defender with him to the ball.

Here it is:



I'm not calling Diggs a weak link, but he's more rough than most of the players around him. He'll probably end up winning us a game before the season's out, and perhaps many before his time is done here. Just like Griffith, in my mind.

RTR,

Tim

 

[PhillyGirl]

If Griffith is our weakest link .. We have a helluva team.