🏈 Alabama QB Blake Sims working hard under the radar

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For the second time in a month, Nick Saban was reminding people that a quarterback competition takes at least two quarterbacks.

One of them, strong-armed, 6-foot-5 junior Jake Coker, has received all the buzz since transferring from Florida State this spring. Blake Sims, the most veteran QB on the roster in terms of years and backup repetitions, has spent the summer as an afterthought.

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Blake Sims worked with QB coach Ken Mastrole in Florida this offseason.
"No one ever seems to ask about Blake Sims," Saban volunteered when asked another question about Coker during a press conference on Sunday. "But he has done extremely well so far in camp as well."

A lack of buzz? That's OK with Sims. Paying no mind to the frenzy that surrounds any fall practice conversation is the plan for now.

"I try not to pay that much attention to it because I'm not into myself right now, I'm more into Alabama football," Sims said. "I'm more into when people see me out there, how can I put the energy into other teammates? How can I make the other quarterbacks go harder? How can I make guys look at me and say I want to match Blake Sims' intensity. So I've got to do that for us to get another ring."

Ironically, if anyone can relate to Sims' second-fiddle predicament, it's Coker.

This time last year ago at FSU Coker was overshadowed by then-freshman Jameis Winston who wowed the fanbase with a huge performance in the spring game. Winston eventually beat out Coker in fall camp, as most expected, but FSU coach Jimbo Fisher said it was not unanimous among his offensive coaching staff.

"I've worked hard since I got here and I feel like there's - I don't know if I could have done anything more than I have done right now," Coker said during Florida State's media day in Aug. 13, 2013. "Just because (Winston) is on magazine covers and all that stuff hasn't changed how I work. I do it the same way every day. I pull for him, he pulls for me, (we) hope we do the best in practice possible to make the team better and we're just playing hard and having fun."

This time around, Coker gets the attention. His former coach called him the most talented QB to play at Alabama under Saban. Coker was even named to a pair of award watch lists weeks before his first official practice at Alabama.

All the while, Saban said that Sims had an "excellent" spring, but the public's only chance to see Sims was when he and the other quarterbacks struggled in the A-Day game. Motivated, Sims continued to work in the offseason, spending time in Florida working with quarterback coach Ken Mastrole to sharpen the finer points of his game.

"He helped me out a lot, made my negative thing some positive things," Sims said.

Already flashing his ability to run in limited backup duty, Sims worked on a list of fixes with Mastrole focused on improving his acumen in the pocket. They worked on throwing balance, stride length on his dropbacks, eye movement drills to expand his field of vision, tightening up his release and the mental side of quarterbacking like recognizing protections and gauging where to locate a throw based on his personnel.

"No question he is a dynamic player out of the pocket, but people are going to want to say, 'Look, the tradition at Alabama is to be a very physical, disciplined, Nick Saban team' and they've been so successful at that," Mastrole said. "I don't know the last time they had a quarterback that could escape the pocket and go the distance. So to harness that and to really understand that when it's there, go, but you're going to win by effectively putting the ball in the playmakers' hands on the outside and making the best decisions to move the chains. I think he's understood that this year more than ever."

Teammates are noticing a different and determined player.

"Blake seems ready. He's approaching every day like he wants it, like he's hungry," receiver Christion Jones said. "I like that about him."

"He's aware of (the competition)," Mastrole said. "I don't believe it's about Blake Sims looking over his shoulder or Jacob Coker looking over his shoulder to compete. I think they are both going in there trying to play their best, trying to learn an offense and obviously you're always going to have that push which is very beneficial in any competitive setting.

"It's more about focusing on the 10 other guys in the huddle. I want him to be deflecting onto other guys and making them better so it takes that stress off yourself."

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Set aside the sports media presumption that Coker is the heir apparent. I don't understand how Alabama arrived at the present quarterback quandary. The coaching staff had 3 years to recruit and groom a replacement for AJ McCarron. Here we are 25 days before the start of the 2014 season and the incumbent for the job is Blake Sims, an
undersized, run-first athlete in a pro set offense, a journeyman quarterback with dubious passing skills and even more questionable decision-making abilities who has the upper hand in the position battle mainly by virtue of being a senior with the greatest number of in-game snaps. Can it really be the case that Sims was better in practice - and hence more deserving of garbage time experience - than Phillip Ely, Luke Del Rio, Alec Morris, and Parker McLeod? If so, isn't that a negative reflection on quarterback recruiting and/or development? It seems to me that the least likely candidate - based on physical attributes and "fit" with Alabama's offensive scheme - was showered with a plethora of coaching favoritism and game experience over technically more deserving candidates. It is nearly incomprehensible to me that the quality of Alabama's quarterback play for the upcoming season now hinges on the ability of a transfer to grasp a new offensive scheme (and develop chemistry with his teammates) in one month of practice.
 
Set aside the sports media presumption that Coker is the heir apparent. I don't understand how Alabama arrived at the present quarterback quandary. The coaching staff had 3 years to recruit and groom a replacement for AJ McCarron. Here we are 25 days before the start of the 2014 season and the incumbent for the job is Blake Sims, an
undersized, run-first athlete in a pro set offense, a journeyman quarterback with dubious passing skills and even more questionable decision-making abilities who has the upper hand in the position battle mainly by virtue of being a senior with the greatest number of in-game snaps. Can it really be the case that Sims was better in practice - and hence more deserving of garbage time experience - than Phillip Ely, Luke Del Rio, Alec Morris, and Parker McLeod? If so, isn't that a negative reflection on quarterback recruiting and/or development? It seems to me that the least likely candidate - based on physical attributes and "fit" with Alabama's offensive scheme - was showered with a plethora of coaching favoritism and game experience over technically more deserving candidates. It is nearly incomprehensible to me that the quality of Alabama's quarterback play for the upcoming season now hinges on the ability of a transfer to grasp a new offensive scheme (and develop chemistry with his teammates) in one month of practice.

In my opinion, the transition from playing QB at the high school level and continuing to do so at the collegiate level is about as small of a percentage as college to the NFL.

If we were to ask which head coach in the SEC is the best at developing QB's, which coach would be the overwhelming selection? Spurrier. How many quarterbacks have been recruited by Spurrier and then took over the starting job at UofSC? He's entering his tenth year in Columbia. In his sixth year (class including 2005) he signed Conner Shaw and Dylan Thompson. Thompson made the 10th pure QB he signed and he's starting this season. The other two are Garcia and Shaw.

I'm not including kids recruited at ATH's, just those that were designated QB's. Out of those classes he's "batting" two for ten. It'll be three when we add Thompson. That's with the same offensive coordinator/QB coach/head coach and their results as the same with two more years of classes.

Like you, I had the same questions. But when I looked at other schools and compared them to our track record I came away with a different impression that I had going in.
 
In my opinion, the transition from playing QB at the high school level and continuing to do so at the collegiate level is about as small of a percentage as college to the NFL.

If we were to ask which head coach in the SEC is the best at developing QB's, which coach would be the overwhelming selection? Spurrier. How many quarterbacks have been recruited by Spurrier and then took over the starting job at UofSC? He's entering his tenth year in Columbia. In his sixth year (class including 2005) he signed Conner Shaw and Dylan Thompson. Thompson made the 10th pure QB he signed and he's starting this season. The other two are Garcia and Shaw.

I'm not including kids recruited at ATH's, just those that were designated QB's. Out of those classes he's "batting" two for ten. It'll be three when we add Thompson. That's with the same offensive coordinator/QB coach/head coach and their results as the same with two more years of classes.

Like you, I had the same questions. But when I looked at other schools and compared them to our track record I came away with a different impression that I had going in.

so are you basically saying that there just aren't that many qb's that are worth anything in college? And that it's a gamble on who can actually make the transistion?
 
so are you basically saying that there just aren't that many qb's that are worth anything in college? And that it's a gamble on who can actually make the transistion?

The numbers signed, versus the numbers that actually make it, certainly point in that direction.

If you have the time, look over the last five years of QB's that were ranked four and five starts coming out of high school with this in mind. How many names do you recognize?

We've certainly had our share of quarterbacks on the roster that have transferred. I thought the same thing that @MissingRing did—we are having development trouble. Then I decided to look at other programs and their numbers. They mirrored ours. In some cases to a greater degree. LSU, as one example, has had Stephen Rivers, Rob Bolden (transfer from Penn State,) and Hayden Ritteg transfer: this summer.
 
I think many of us may be suprised when the season starts and we see both Sims and Coker playing meaninful minutes during a few games. One of those guys will separate from the other ( at least we hope so) and will take over as number 1. Until that happens, Sims has as good of chance at winning the job as anyone.
 
so are you basically saying that there just aren't that many qb's that are worth anything in college? And that it's a gamble on who can actually make the transistion?
And, you've got these highly rated guys looking for playing time. Some of these cats aren't willing to sit for two, three years as underclassmen becuase they didn't win the starting job in year one or two. They're out the door to Wyoming or somewhere and you're left with another batch of highly rated, but highly inexperienced guys.

Wash, rinse, repeat.
 
it does make you wonder...Besides the obvious, Stafford, Manning bro's, and Brady, where did most of the top NFL qb's play college? And besides that, how many of these guys did you ever hear about while in college? I had never heard of Wilson, Kaepernic, Romo, Dalton, Big Ben, or Flacco until they got drafted. If they were so good, why weren't they household names while in college?

You have Brees from Purdue and Matt Ryan from BC, neither are really football powerhouses, or you get them from smaller schools.

Rogers from Cal
Russell Wilson - ????Wisconsin??? Not really a school you think of when you think of qb's
Kaepernick - Nevada
RGIII - Baylor
Romo - Eastern Ill
Dalton - TCU
Rivers - NCSt
Big Ben - Miami of Ohio
Flacco- Delaware - I didn't even know they played football until him

You'd think that the bigger, powerhouse schools would get the best qb's every year, and every year they would become studs, but it seems to be more of a fluke than anything, or a genealogy thing, like with the Mannings...

Then you have the guys who are the greatest thing since sliced bread coming out of HS, and you never hear from them again... Hello Matt Barkley and Tyler Wilson! I know they're in the NFL, but not exactly riser stars....

So how DO you pick a qb out of high school and expect them to perform at the next levels? It obviously takes development, but it really seems like a crap shoot...
 
The numbers signed, versus the numbers that actually make it, certainly point in that direction.

If you have the time, look over the last five years of QB's that were ranked four and five starts coming out of high school with this in mind. How many names do you recognize?

We've certainly had our share of quarterbacks on the roster that have transferred. I thought the same thing that @MissingRing did—we are having development trouble. Then I decided to look at other programs and their numbers. They mirrored ours. In some cases to a greater degree. LSU, as one example, has had Stephen Rivers, Rob Bolden (transfer from Penn State,) and Hayden Ritteg transfer: this summer.
Thanks for the perspective.
 
@c5vetman It's eye opening when you start looking at it in depth, isn't it?

Chew on this for a minute.

Tyrik Rollinson
Clint Moseley
Robert Cooper
Kiehl Frazier
Wirth Campbell
Zeke Pike*


These are all QB's evaluated and recruited by Malzahn who eventually signed with Auburn. Where are they?

Malzahn is labeled as one who has a great track record with QB's. But, Cam wasn't someone he found in 2010. Marshall was recruited by Chizik's staff when Malzahn was at Arkansas State. Both JUCO players, both proven before they arrived on campus.

*Pike signed when Malzahn was at Arkansas State. He committed to Malzahn.
 
Obviously this is not something that is straightforward. Clearly the most physically gifted QB we have had on campus in the Saban era was Philip Sims. A J was well regarded, and certainly developed into quite the college QB. Greg was an afterthought, signed by not Saban, but Shula, who obviously worked out well for us. Sims obviously did not develop, especially in regards to his physical qualifications, the other two did. Greg did not measure up in the NFL. We will know a lot more about A J in a couple of years.

This is the third season under CNS that we have begun without a clear QB starter. I remember the discussions we had leading up to the 2009 season about the position. Greg had little experience, but he had done very well at the Manning camp over that summer, and what confidence any of us had was based on that. 14 games later we were singing his praises. We were all following the "competition" in 2011, and were a little discouraged when Sims and McCarron had two picks each in the opener with Kent State. That season worked out rather well also.

With our talent base, it is not as if we need a Namath or Stabler at their peak performance at QB. As we did in the two years I mentioned, we will put our guy in position to do what he can do well. It may be a game manager situation, but our bottom line is the W and L. When you think of our 2009 season, you remember 14-0, not "MacElroy is just a game manager".

The landscape of college football is strewn with hotshot QBs who just did not work out.
 
Bateman has outperformed everyone in your list, missingring... with the only argument being Alec Morris... but if A-Day is any help at all, Bateman is also ahead of Morris in general .

I think we can expect some sort of 2 QB system because no one stands out among who we have seen in Crimson and Coker is a mystery as a starter. I think we see Coker and Sims in a dual system with Blake running designed bootlegs and even veer/option type plays.

If Coker craps out, Bateman will take his place in the offense. If Sims craps out, we just lose that portion of the offense because we have no QB who can do what he does athletically. JM2C

In a mythical world where health care professionals with no coaching experience coach college football teams from the internet, this is what would happen.
 
^^ See its comments like "Bateman has outperformed everyone in your list." How in the world can you even come up with that opinion? From A-Day? From Fan Day? Cause someone who talked to someone who claims to watch practice said it? That is insane. There are a few guys who can make that judgment, one of them is named Nick and the others aint posting on a Internet forum.
 
Well put, Birdman 37. I was at an alumni gathering a few years back, and Eli was the speaker. He took a few questions, and someone asked him if he had seen something at practice. His reply was that he was allowed to watch practice, but if he starting talking about what he had seen, he would lose that privilege. I am sure that any of the privileged few would be subject to that.
 
Alabama's quarterback competition appears to be between senior Blake Sims and junior Jake Coker, but Cooper Bateman is make his presence known.

The redshirt freshman from Murray, Utah, has been running with the second and third string.

"Cooper's gotten a lot better since he's been here," coach Nick Saban said. "I think he's very athletic. I think the thing that we'd like to see him do is just be a little bit more consistent. He certainly shows at various times that he has the ability to make the plays that we need him to make."

Bateman came on strong in the spring game when he guided the White team to a 17-13 victory over the Crimson. He completed 11 of 24 passes for 156 yards and a touchdown.

"Consistency, that would really take him a long way to being able to reach his full potential," Saban said. "Probably a lot of that is confidence. Some of it's probably technique, and those are the kinds of things that we work on every day."

Inside linebacker worries

The primary tackling position of inside linebacker has become a concern. Only two, maybe three players are ready to go, and one is hurt.

Returning starter Trey DePriest continues to nurse a left knee injury, but he practices as much as he can.

"We've got a lot of youth there," defensive coordinator Kirby Smart said. "We're going to have to play some freshmen there. We've got to stay healthy at that position."

Reggie Ragland and Rueben Foster have been leading the group because both played part-time last season. The rest are in the early stages of development.

"We need four guys to be able to play inside linebacker and play well for us," Smart said. "So we've done some things there, moved some guys around. We're going to have to cross-train some guys. If anyone gets injured at that position, it's going to be really tough."


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We can all guess who's doing good in the QB battle, but like what has been said the people that actually know how the QBs are doing aren't on a forum and the one guy that talks to the media hasn't let anything be known about who's leading or even who are the guys that are in the running. We could all guess a name and Saban could come out and say Bateman is the starter.

With that I still think Coker was brought in to start and all he has to do is learn the system and it's his
 
^^ See its comments like "Bateman has outperformed everyone in your list." How in the world can you even come up with that opinion? From A-Day? From Fan Day? Cause someone who talked to someone who claims to watch practice said it? That is insane. There are a few guys who can make that judgment, one of them is named Nick and the others aint posting on a Internet forum.

Being fair to @jdpas29 he's said he's based that opinion on what he's seen—not as outright in that post but certainly hinted with "but if A-Day is any help at all."

If we rated the QB's based on A-day, Bateman would likely get the nod. Then there's the point of it being a controlled scrimmage—as all are—and Blake being severely limited in what he brings to the game.

If I may add, there are people posting news on Internet forums that know where that judgment/evaluation is currently sitting. We've got one staff member that never has been able to keep things to himself.
 
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