šŸ“” Alabama-Clemson III: Two dynasties passing in the night?

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Kevin Scarbinsky | kscarbinsky@al.com

The third playoff meeting in three years between these elite programs and coaches feels like a special moment waiting to happen.

Some games, even a semifinal on the road to the national championship, are just games, especially for a coach and a program for whom these special occasions have become routine.

For Nick Saban and Alabama, the real season doesn't start until December.

Other games are moments, milestones, markers that draw a line between what came before and what comes after.

Alabama-Clemson Part III feels like a moment waiting to happen. More than a Sugar Bowl, more than a playoff semifinal, this game has all the makings of two dynasties passing in the night.

I know. It sounds crazy. Alabama's just two years removed from its last national championship, its fourth under Saban. It came against Clemson, no less, but that's the Crimson Tide's only big ring in the last four years.

Compared to the three titles the program captured from 2009 to 2012, that's an obvious sign of the big red machine slowing its roll ever so slightly.

One national championship in five years - or five decades - would lead to unrestrained jubilation in most places. Alabama has set its own bar so high, if it doesn't play and win two games in January, it'll feed the championship-or-bust beast even more.


Clemson doesn't face the same dynastic pressure as Alabama, even as the reigning national champion that dethroned the Tide and the No. 1 team entering this playoff. If Dabo Swinney and company lose Jan. 1 in the Superdome, it'll be a serious disappointment, but this program seems destined to add more championships to a trophy case with plenty of room.

Since the start of the 2011 season, only Alabama with 87 victories has more wins than Clemson's 82. Only Alabama with four playoff appearances has more than Clemson's three trips to college football's final four. Only Alabama and Clemson have won 10 games or more for at least the last seven seasons.

Consistent excellence, the hallmark of Saban's Alabama program, now applies to the operation Swinney has built at Clemson. The Tigers have 14 10-win seasons in their history. Half have come in the last seven years. They have four seasons with at least 12 wins in their entire existence. Swinney has been the head coach for three of them.

That's not merely a function of lengthier schedules. It's the result of a head coach growing into one of the best practitioners in his profession.

Swinney hasn't dethroned Saban as much as he's joined him at the top of the game, but the age difference between them can't be ignored. Saban is 66, and though he seems as if he could coach forever, no one outlasts Father Time. Swinney is 48, and though history shows it's rare to keep winning this way at any program, he's already shown an unusual staying power.

If Alabama wins this game, with a team no one would mistake for Saban's best, it'll be just the latest demonstration of his command. And then he'll have to face another challenger young enough to be his son in either Georgia's Kirby Smart, his most similar protege, or Oklahoma's Lincoln Riley.

If Clemson wins this game, if Alabama isn't good enough in its biggest game of the season for the fourth time in five years, it won't necessarily be the end of the dynasty in Tuscaloosa. It'll certainly be the next brick in building one at Clemson.

The last time Alabama met Clemson and it changed everything for both programs, Saban and the Crimson Tide crushed Tommy Bowden and the Tigers in the first Chick-fil-A Kickoff Game in the Georgia Dome in 2008.

The most telling number that day wasn't the 34-10 final score. It was Clemson's final total of 0 rushing yards as Alabama displayed the brute force that became its trademark.

Alabama was off and running toward an undefeated regular season. Clemson was six weeks away from a coaching change. Bowden was pushed out, making way for a little-known wide receivers coach named Swinney to take over, first as the interim guy, then as the actual head coach.

The former Alabama walk-on has made the most of that opportunity. Now he has a chance to stop Saban again from winning the sixth national title that would tie him with Bear Bryant and add one more of his own.

That 2008 Alabama win over Clemson was more than a game. It was a moment. It feels like we're headed toward history again on New Year's Day.

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I know. It sounds crazy. Alabama's just two years removed from its last national championship, its fourth under Saban. It came against Clemson, no less, but that's the Crimson Tide's only big ring in the last four years.
This amuses me.

We're three weeks removed from Scarbinsky talking about the milestone it would be for Gus to win a second SEC title. But, with Bama winning three in the last four years, it's pedestrian--a small ring, an insignificant achievement. Hell, he titled his piece "Gus Malzahn is 60 minutes away from history."
 
This amuses me.

We're three weeks removed from Scarbinsky talking about the milestone it would be for Gus to win a second SEC title. But, with Bama winning three in the last four years, it's pedestrian--a small ring, an insignificant achievement. Hell, he titled his piece "Gus Malzahn is 60 minutes away from history."

Scab is a known troll. I dont even think he believes 90% of what he writes. I mean the entire premise of his article is ridiculous. Alabama is a "passing" dynasty because it "only" won one title in the last three years, while Clemson is a "rising" dynasty despite "only" winning one title in the last 20 years.
 
He was wearing a scarf actually and I'm being serious.
As an ascot, right?

I'll give him this. I've had a few conversations revolving around food and he does have a niche there. I know I've mentioned when he went to work in the print industry his goal was to be a food critic.

If you take that goal and the personalities we so often see from food critics, it really fits with his approach to his audience--yes?
 
Clemson wants to ā€˜leave no doubt’ about who the better team is against Alabama

Clemson isn’t just aiming to beat Alabama in the Sugar Bowl on Jan. 1. The Tigers are hoping to leave no doubt as far as which team is better.

Clemson and Alabama met each of the previous two seasons in the national championship game and delivered a pair of classic games, splitting the two meetings.

But the Tigers feel like they could have won the 2015 national title and had an easier time winning in 2016 had they played up to their potential. Clemson is hoping it won’t need a last-second touchdown to win this year.

ā€œI feel like we left a little bit of doubt as far as it being a close game. I think that’s kind of mentality and focus that we’re trying to have going into it. We’re trying to leave no doubt. We’re not trying to make it close,ā€ cornerback Ryan Carter said. ā€œWe’re trying to win the game and move on. We know it’s going to be a tough game. We know it’s going to be a challenge. But the last two times we’ve played Alabama we’ve left a little bit of doubt as far as a couple of plays that we could’ve made, just little things, so I think that’s one thing we’re trying to challenge each other on is really leave no doubt.ā€

Some of that doubt from outsiders is due to the fact that Crimson Tide star running back Bo Scarbrough was hurt in the third quarter against Clemson after recording 16 carries for 93 yards and a pair of touchdowns.

Scarbrough certainly got off to a fast start against Clemson, but he did much of his damage early on.

Both of his touchdowns and 71 of his rushing yards came in the first 20 minutes of the game.

Scarbrough’s final nine carries totaled 22 yards.

ā€œWe hear that kind of stuff but at the end of the day I feel like we had guys that were hurt, too. You can’t really base a game off somebody getting hurt,ā€ Carter said. ā€œYou’ve gotta have guys who are backups ready to step up and make plays. Yeah, we’ve heard that and that is what it is but I feel like it’s still Alabama at the end of the day. It’s still a challenge even without him.ā€

Leaving no doubt has been a theme for Clemson throughout the 2017 season after the Tigers had several close calls last year, including against Louisville, N.C. State, Florida State and Virginia Tech.

Clemson topped those teams by an average of 16 points this season after winning by an average of less than six last year.

ā€œLast season there was a lot of doubt in how we got to the College Football Playoff and how we won the national championship, whether or not it was a last second tackle against Louisville or the interception in overtime against N.C. State. ... This year, and we’ve done it so far, just kind of leave no doubt,ā€ linebacker Dorian O’Daniel said.

ā€œWe feel like they just want to discredit from what we actually did. As a football player you take pride in that kind of stuff. You’re not going to let anyone just sit there and talk about what type of season you had when you know what it took and you’re on the inside looking out.ā€

Clemson has one more opportunity to leave no doubt this season against a team that it had a close matchup with a year ago.

ā€œThere’s a lot of answers that was left out from playing them last year, just saying we didn’t do this, we didn’t do that,ā€ wide receiver Deon Cain said. ā€œThis year we just want to go out and answer everything, kill the show, and just come back home with that W.ā€

Clemson wants to ā€˜leave no doubt’ about who the better team is against Alabama
 

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