🏈 2 Alabama Football Players No Longer Listed On The Roster

[rick4bama]

2 Alabama Football Players No Longer Listed On The Roster

Alabama’s football program has had quite a bit of turnover this offseason, but on its roster and with its coaching staff. The turnover is apparently not finished.

Rivals.com reporter Tony Tsoukalas is reporting that two Alabama football players are no longer listed on the Crimson Tide’s online roster. One of those players had entered his name into the NCAA’s transfer portal and another had been suspended.

“Defensive back Kyriq McDonald, who entered his name into the NCAA transfer database earlier this month, is not listed on Alabama’s online roster,” he reported.
“Elliot Baker is also not listed on the roster. He was one of three Alabama players suspended during the playoff.”

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Defensive back Kyiq McDonald, who entered his name into the NCAA transfer database earlier this month, is not listed on Alabama's online roster.

Elliot Baker is also not listed on the roster. He was one of three Alabama players suspended during the playoff.
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McDonald is a former three-star recruit. He was ranked the No. 45 cornerback in the country coming out of high school.
Baker is a former four-star offensive tackle. He was ranked the No. 1 offensive tackle in the JUCO class in 2017.
Alabama has yet to officially announce any news regarding these two players.
Stay tuned.

 

[JoseyWalesTheOutlaw]

I doubt you read much from Nick until days before the startup of spring drills. It wouldn't surprise me to see more leave after spring drills than before. JMO but I believe Nick and staff will do a good job of learning this spring who the weak sisters are on his roster and then encourage those to seek new destinations. I wouldn't be surprised if Nick encourage a couple of those late decision Bama players to go ahead and leave (#30,#14,and #4)......and I don't think Nick is sad to see #92 hit the road as well.

 

[TerryP]

I wouldn't be surprised if Nick encourage a couple of those late decision Bama players to go ahead and leave (#30,#14,and #4)......and I don't think Nick is sad to see #92 hit the road as well.

Savion quit with that fake injury bit. That would be hard for me, if I were the coach, to simply dismiss as well. Or give a second chance for that matter.

Mack is a good question. Although, we don't know what draft grade he received.

With Quinnen and Deionte they're receiving 1st round recognition. He's always encouraged kids with that type of forecast to leave.

One thing I've wondered about this past class is how many grades were actually given. The NFL has a limit of five. They do allow teams to receive more than five draft evals when they "deem it appropriate." Considering how many kids we're seeing drafted from Bama I can't imagine the NFL saying, "No. You're only going to have five."

 

[XXL TideFan]

They do allow teams to receive more than five draft evals when they "deem it appropriate." Considering how many kids we're seeing drafted from Bama I can't imagine the NFL saying, "No. You're only going to have five."

Can I get an Amen!?

 

[Tidestalker]

Didn't know Baker was suspended... But did know he looked extremely raw out of JUCO and had seemed like a desperation move to find some experience at OT. Hopefully we can fill that spot with a contributor in some fashion.

On another note - I think Saban is more than sad to see #92 hit the road... Maybe cried himself to sleep. Along with #99 who was probably thinking "that's supposed to be me" but either got out worked, out focused, or didn't progress as expected.

 

[TerryP]

Along with #99 who was probably thinking "that's supposed to be me" but either got out worked, out focused, or didn't progress as expected.

You also have to take into account a few more things. One, the number of times Davis was double teamed. That had a bearing on Quinnen's and Bugg's seasons. Secondly, with this defensive scheme, we've seen lineman who had the responsibility to occupy blockers—which automatically decreases QBH and TFL.

There were issues with the way Kool handled the defensive line last year. There were several linemen that were ready for Kool to go and more than a few that didn't "click" with his approach to coaching the defensive line. Among those his style didn't click with? Saban.

Like you, I went into last season expecting a lot from Davis. A lot of that was fueled by what happened leaving spring camp where the line (specifically interior tackles) wasn't settled. That's combined with what we saw in 2017-2018.

Does that tell the whole story?

Here's an example to consider.

When Clowney had his breakout Junior season with the Gamecocks we saw very little attention paid to Quarles or Taylor. Fordham and Sutton didn't get a lot of "face time" when it came to the exposure Clowney received. Like Quinnen this past season, Jadeveon received a lot of praise and publicity. And, like Davis this past season, the work the other guys did to give Clowney the freedom to work had an immeasurable affect.

It's my view too often we see a guy who doesn't have the success expected going into the season and it's blamed on things like "got out worked, out focused, or didn't progress as expected." Yet, a lot of the other factors involved in defensive line play at Bama are left unmentioned.

 

[JoseyWalesTheOutlaw]

#49 played like shite vs Clemson yet he was in there most of the entire game (injured or not). If Bama's DL play was/is due to bad DL coaching then Nick has tried to fix that but if the problem is the players then hopefully some of the newer faces will replace those that have been playing minutes. We'll see.

 

[Tidestalker]

Terry - If you think the double teams limited Davis' impact last year, imagine what is going to happen THIS year....

It's not going to get any better than playing alongside the best defensive lineman in the country, which is what everyone knew by the end of the season. And still, the impact Davis was able to make was limited.

The bigger point was when JWTO mentioned Saban not being said to see 92 to go... Don't get that?

And to follow up, absolutely agree with JTWO that the DL rotation was non existent down the stretch. I think Mathis got a few snaps when the game was in doubt but other than that, seemed like the same 3 dudes butting heads every, single, play. I guess Ray got himself in the doghouse and others didn't progress but there has to be some type of rotation at that position to last against elite competition. If indeed it was the DL coach's inability to develop, substitute, or poor scheme than damn they need to look at that. 0 sacks... Sheesh.

And on another note - Sure hope we can get a transfer DL in the mix. With Baker off the roster maybe there's a spot for one? RTR

 

[TerryP]

The bigger point was when JWTO mentioned Saban not being said to see 92 to go... Don't get that?

If you're asking me if I got what he was saying, no. I missed the point. I'm thinking @JoseyWalesTheOutlaw had a typo there? I would like to know more about what he was thinking.

And to follow up, absolutely agree with JTWO that the DL rotation was non existent down the stretch.

That's not new and it's not something unique just because Kool was coaching the defensive line. Last season the ratio from backups to starters on snaps was 1:3. If we go back to when Bo Davis was coaching the line the rotation (in terms of the number of snaps) mirrored that of this past season.

The total of defensive snaps against Clemson was 55-56, something like that. As a backup, Ray had the most snaps with 10. Buggs, Williams, and Davis had 55, 51, and 54 respectively.

And on another note - Sure hope we can get a transfer DL in the mix. With Baker off the roster maybe there's a spot for one? RTR

I've been told there are a couple that are willing to take a blueshirt for the '19 class. If that's true, there should be two spots open (IF two blueshirt) in the 85 total.

However, the crunch comes with the initials. I'm not as well versed on how this reads as I'd like to be. I've seen people say you can't use back-counters any longer. I've seen some say you can. I suspect it's limited—somewhere in the middle of both—but I don't know for sure.

If they can use back-counters like it's been done in the past, the Tide could have signed 29. With 27 on the books, it leads me to think the option has its limitations.

(I've also seen mentioned the Tide has looked at a few tight ends for transfers. That's been from different fans and not from people I rely on for information.)

 

[JoseyWalesTheOutlaw]

Terry - If you think the double teams limited Davis' impact last year, imagine what is going to happen THIS year....

It's not going to get any better than playing alongside the best defensive lineman in the country, which is what everyone knew by the end of the season. And still, the impact Davis was able to make was limited.

The bigger point was when JWTO mentioned Saban not being said to see 92 to go... Don't get that?

And to follow up, absolutely agree with JTWO that the DL rotation was non existent down the stretch. I think Mathis got a few snaps when the game was in doubt but other than that, seemed like the same 3 dudes butting heads every, single, play. I guess Ray got himself in the doghouse and others didn't progress but there has to be some type of rotation at that position to last against elite competition. If indeed it was the DL coach's inability to develop, substitute, or poor scheme than damn they need to look at that. 0 sacks... Sheesh.

And on another note - Sure hope we can get a transfer DL in the mix. With Baker off the roster maybe there's a spot for one? RTR

I am unsure of whom or how many players Nick had in mind when he made his comments about the Alabama Factor. There was more trash talking and personal foul penalties this year than I recall in the past years and that just seemed out of place for Alabama.

Nick Saban smells it, as he explained Wednesday when he attributed the bad result to the absence of the “Alabama factor” that helped the Crimson Tide emerge as the top college football program during this decade.
“That has always helped us be successful,” Saban said. “That’s having a team that plays with a lot of discipline, that’s having a team that everybody is sort of responsible and accountable to do their job at a high level and a standard and everybody puts the team first. So that’s the standard. And it’s up to the individual players on the team to do that. If I thought that we weren’t doing that in one game or ten games, I would address it with the players and make sure that everybody was on board with those principles and values that have helped us be successful. I don’t think we played in that game with the Alabama factor. So everybody needs to understand that and respond to it.”


“If you lose your humility, it sort of creates that I am above doing things the way I need to do them to to prepare for a game and go play in a game against good competition,” Saban said. “And if I put my own agenda ahead of the team or winning, it’s going to have some effect on my performance. So, if I think those things are existing in the program, I think that they need to be addressed. And they have been.”

 

[TerryP]

I am unsure of whom or how many players Nick had in mind when he made his comments about the Alabama Factor. There was more trash talking and personal foul penalties this year than I recall in the past years and that just seemed out of place for Alabama.

As it was explained by one of the Bama lineman's father, the issue wasn't in the players locker room but the one just down the hall.

It's encapsulated here in this sentence. And, it's one of the reasons we as fans are welcoming Brian Baker to Tuscaloosa.

that’s having a team that everybody is sort of responsible and accountable to do their job at a high level and a standard and everybody puts the team first.

 

[JoseyWalesTheOutlaw]

Saw this on RollBamaRoll regarding our punter...………


First off, there is the inclusion of punter Mike Berner. He had alwasy been identified as a “Senior” last season and everyone rightfully assumed that meant 2018-19 was his final season. Erik Evans even wrote an eloquent “Senior Salute” about him. However, it appears his Alabama career may not be over just yet. Bernier is listed on the 2019 roster as “ Redshirt Senior”.

Bernier transferred from Eastern Illinois. Their website listed him as a true freshman in 2015. He is not on their 2016 roster. Alabama lists him on the 2017 roster but having not played during the campaign. Eligibility of walk-ons has always had some nebulous rules. Regardless, this all adds up to only four years since high school graduation and who knows how many seasons of football have been counted. Did he get a hardship waiver? Is Alabama required to give him a scholarship for the coming season? We reached out to the Alabama SID and to Bernier himself but got no responses. It could be all this is pending but it appears that the Tide will have their starting punter back for another season.

 

[EasyTider]

Saw this on RollBamaRoll regarding our punter...………


First off, there is the inclusion of punter Mike Berner. He had alwasy been identified as a “Senior” last season and everyone rightfully assumed that meant 2018-19 was his final season. Erik Evans even wrote an eloquent “Senior Salute” about him. However, it appears his Alabama career may not be over just yet. Bernier is listed on the 2019 roster as “ Redshirt Senior”.

Bernier transferred from Eastern Illinois. Their website listed him as a true freshman in 2015. He is not on their 2016 roster. Alabama lists him on the 2017 roster but having not played during the campaign. Eligibility of walk-ons has always had some nebulous rules. Regardless, this all adds up to only four years since high school graduation and who knows how many seasons of football have been counted. Did he get a hardship waiver? Is Alabama required to give him a scholarship for the coming season? We reached out to the Alabama SID and to Bernier himself but got no responses. It could be all this is pending but it appears that the Tide will have their starting punter back for another season.

Bringing back that 38yd average, awesome

 

[JoseyWalesTheOutlaw]

Bringing back that 38yd average, awesome

Better than bringing back DeLong for another 30 yard average plus shanks. I will be surprised if DeLong in on the Bama roster after school ends in May.

 

[EasyTider]

Better than bringing back DeLong for another 30 yard average plus shanks. I will be surprised if DeLong in on the Bama roster after school ends in May.

Valid point. Still, how does a team with #1 recruiting class nearly every year for 6,7,8? years get excited about returning a punter who can’t kick 40 yards and a FG who makes 75%? of extra points?

 

[planomateo]

Valid point. Still, how does a team with #1 recruiting class nearly every year for 6,7,8? years get excited about returning a punter who can’t kick 40 yards and a FG who makes 75%? of extra points?

Remind me again how the Clemson game went...punting and kicking are the least of my concerns. Point here, it's a teams sport. It doesn't fall on punters or kickers. EVERYONE can get better.

 

[JoseyWalesTheOutlaw]

Valid point. Still, how does a team with #1 recruiting class nearly every year for 6,7,8? years get excited about returning a punter who can’t kick 40 yards and a FG who makes 75%? of extra points?

I can't get excited but then again you don't want to have worse and DeLong is full of Worse. I was the punter in HS for all 4 years and I got a little better each year but really just more consistent with my 42 yard punts from toe to receiver because that was about Max. There is no way Delong can stand on the 50 and kick the ball into the endzone 7 times out of 10 because he doesn't have that talent. He was a recruiting bust from the get go.

 

[Justneedme81]

Delong is talented, but the issue he had was more of mental approach. If he can get it corrected, he will be okay. I suspect they will give him a chance to redeem himself.

 

[planomateo]

I can't get excited but then again you don't want to have worse and DeLong is full of Worse. I was the punter in HS for all 4 years and I got a little better each year but really just more consistent with my 42 yard punts from toe to receiver because that was about Max. There is no way Delong can stand on the 50 and kick the ball into the endzone 7 times out of 10 because he doesn't have that talent. He was a recruiting bust from the get go.

Hyperbole?

 

[JoseyWalesTheOutlaw]

Good read on Bama's defense for 2019.

Alabama Defense And Kicking Spots Will Be Eyed In Spring

Although placekicker and punter return, there were issues in kicking game in 2018.

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