Birdman37 said:Outlaw said:Kc Bleeds Crimson said:I really hope DMac wins it...but I have a feeling the popular vote still is with Tebow.
On another note as far as qbs are concerned I think CB is a better qb and should also get it before Tebow, but this is a popularity contest now.
June Jones, is that you? :lol:
Birdman37 said:i believe Mr. Tebow will win it, but i think McFadden deserves it. the guy is incredible, with little to NO help on that team he pretty much threw him on his back and lead them to 8 wins. and hes done it all 3 seasons hes been at Arkansas. i think there something to be said for that.
I hate both parts of that argument. If that was the case, CB would win it hands down for what he's "done" for three years. This is the 2007 Heisman Trophy. This isn't the 2005-2007 Heisman Trophy.
Heard of Felix Jones? Averaging 9.1 yards a carry. Would start at any other school in the SEC, and maybe in the country. 1100+ yards, 11 TDs rushing. 31.3 kick return average. Heck, even CASEY DICK is having a solid year. 18 TDs-9 INTS. 130 passer rating. Saying he has no help is arguable.
yea Colt Brennan has had a great career at a school who plays what, 2 decent teams a year? and a school that always has a QB with ridiculous passing numbers?! come on man.
yea, Felix Jones is a good RB but imo he would not have the numbers he has w/o McFadden being there. come on, Casey Dick? just no. McFadden played QB prolly as much as Dick did, the guy did it all. run, pass, catch, return kicks. he put that damn team on his back. especially with Marcus Monk out for most of the year, and when he came back he wasnt very effective.
LOL exactly why I wouldn't give it to CB. You didn't think I was making an argument for CB do you? Because, if so, Reading Comp. 101 is in your future. :lol:
DMac had 4 TD passes on 6 completions. Casey Dick had 18 on 131 completions. Yeah, DMac sure played QB more.
By the way, Felix Jones had 18 returns for 550+ yards. DMac had 15 for 280+. 30+ average to 18+. 2 TDs to none.
DMac didn't do it all by himself by any stretch of the imagination. I do think he's the best athlete in the running; but going by stats and performance over the whole year, Tebow has it hands down IMO. Tebow hasn't had a bad game all year (closest was the LSU and Georgia games, but he still played above average). I can't say the same for DMac, he was shut down by both Auburn and...State maybe? Seems like I remember him pretty much only having one long TD reception against them. And, while he did have 4 TDs rushing against FIU (all 4 being under 5 yard runs), seems like they kept him in check for the majority of the game.
DMac definitely is the best athlete; but he hasn't had the best year. DMac had a great season, T squared had a phenomenal year.
CrimsonPirate said:If ESPN has anything to say about it, Tebow will win. How many of his 20 TD runs were five yards or less? Anytime UF got that deep, there was no doubt who would be carrying the football. He is a load as a runner, but not necessarily the best player in college football. I voted for Tebow, but give me DMac.
Funny that you asked that. I went back and looked at the game by game stats and DMac had 9 of 15 TDs which were 5 yards or less. Tebow had 15 of 29 for 5 yards or less.