🏈 Whats the Deal

[Rolling Tide]

I thought we were going to hear something from this NCAA yesterday. Any word of anything?

 

[TidePride50]

I'm ready too. I want this thing behind us.

 

[tidenumber1]

I was just wondering this same thing. I hope they don't drag it out to the point of it being a distraction for the coming year.

 

[BamaDelta]

I've been gone to Scottsdale for a week. Before I left I read we'd hear that day or the next (and definitely by the end of the week). Now, I'm back and I hear yesterday, today, tomorrow.

I decided I wouldn't let all the speculation get to me. The longer it draws out the more I hear all the negative and the worry. I'll be honest and say I feel more nervous about it now than last week, last month, etc...

I just can't feel the waiting is a good thing....then again this decision has probably been made a month or so ago. Just can't understand why the NCAA isn't releasing it. They had all the facts and Alabama's response back in Feb. What the heck is the purpose in not releasing it?!

 

[Nothing_But_A_Winner00]

Many assumed it would be early this week with the probable commitment of 5 star CB Demarcus Milliner(announcing Thurs. 1 PM), since Saban has shown he likes to follow up bad news(NCAA) with great news(commitment) to keep positive some positive about Alabama in the headlines too.

 

[Rolling Tide]

Many assumed it would be early this week with the probable commitment of 5 star CB Demarcus Milliner(announcing Thurs. 1 PM), since Saban has shown he likes to follow up bad news(NCAA) with great news(commitment) to keep positive some positive about Alabama in the headlines too.

Maybe this will be the case then.

 

[BAMAPERRY]

Some rumblings we may have gotten the verdict yesterday, like FSU.

 

[TerryP]

Some rumblings we may have gotten the verdict yesterday, like FSU.

Coach Moore, from last night:

"We have nothing to go by other than we're waiting, as you are. It's up to the NCAA right now. I would say (we'd hear) relatively soon..."

That's from an interview he had after speaking to the QB club in Huntsville...

Let's assume it came yesterday...NCAA would release their findings tomorrow.

 

[BAMAPERRY]

Coach Moore, from last night:

"We have nothing to go by other than we're waiting, as you are. It's up to the NCAA right now. I would say (we'd hear) relatively soon..."

That's from an interview he had after speaking to the QB club in Huntsville...

Let's assume it came yesterday...NCAA would release their findings tomorrow.

It's my understanding we would hear about it in a day or two, unless they had some deal worked out with the NCAAzis. I don't think the football teams gets much, they may be focusing more on the other sports.

 

[BAMAPERRY]

After FSU met with the COI the 1st time, it took about 4 1/2 months for them to get a verdict. So, this isn't that unusual.

 

[rolltide1969]

To me, it's like when you were young. You got into some trouble with your Mom and she said wait until your Dad gets home. The waiting was worse than when he actually got there in most cases!

 

[BamaFan615]

Terry have you heard anything from the inside or is the NCAA kinda quiet when it comes to situations like this?

 

[TerryP]

Terry have you heard anything from the inside or is the NCAA kinda quiet when it comes to situations like this?

No.

I just know this.

Everyone is speculating that it should have already arrived based on what the normal time frame for the NCAA is.

If you take the case that is the latest in the news, FSU, they appear before the Committee on Infractions on October 18th, 2008. The announcement of the ruling was March 6th, 2009.

So, four and a half months.

Our appearance was Feb. 20th. So, based on the time frame they are working on right now June 20th would be four months, the first week of July the four and a half week mark.

What has thrown a wrench into perceptions on when the letter should have arrived is the COI also met with South Alabama the same day Alabama officials did and their infractions case results was ruled on May 12th.

So, everyone naturally assumed ours would follow shortly thereafter.

As to the penalties...I still think the same. No one knows for sure. All that is out there is speculation but some of those speculating are pretty informed.

 

[deceks7]

To me, it's like when you were young. You got into some trouble with your Mom and she said wait until your Dad gets home. The waiting was worse than when he actually got there in most cases!

I always wanted Mom to deal with it, Dad was a whole 'nother ball game...

The thing on the time frame of the two cases is that Alabama had a notice in May 2008 and FSU received a notice in Sept 2008. FSU has been in an appeal process for some time now, yet the Alabama case hasn't resulted in an initial decision.

 

[TerryP]

I always wanted Mom to deal with it, Dad was a whole 'nother ball game...

The thing on the time frame of the two cases is that Alabama had a notice in May 2008 and FSU received a notice in Sept 2008. FSU has been in an appeal process for some time now, yet the Alabama case hasn't resulted in an initial decision.

The date of notice doesn't impact date of decision.

After a schools appearance before the COI the normal window for a response from the NCAA is anywhere from 10-20 weeks.

FSU has been in an appeal process since the date they received their ruling. Which, was 4 1/2 months after their appearance before the COI.

Now, this "initial decision" you speak of has been ruled upon, per say. The school has a real good idea on how the NCAA's COI is going to rule after their meetings. The delay that results from those meetings is primarily due to putting the response in legalese.

Which, as some have speculated, brings FSU's case right back into this story.

Those involved with the COI and the staff members they work with don't do this 5 days a week.

That said...the angst some feel because of the time frame and the propositions some are making that the time frame and its length have some bearing or meaning is nothing more than speculation. And, using that word is being gracious.

 

[deceks7]

The date of notice doesn't impact date of decision.

After a schools appearance before the COI the normal window for a response from the NCAA is anywhere from 10-20 weeks.

FSU has been in an appeal process since the date they received their ruling. Which, was 4 1/2 months after their appearance before the COI.

Now, this "initial decision" you speak of has been ruled upon, per say. The school has a real good idea on how the NCAA's COI is going to rule after their meetings. The delay that results from those meetings is primarily due to putting the response in legalese.

Which, as some have speculated, brings FSU's case right back into this story.

Those involved with the COI and the staff members they work with don't do this 5 days a week.

That said...the angst some feel because of the time frame and the propositions some are making that the time frame and its length have some bearing or meaning is nothing more than speculation. And, using that word is being gracious.

Just talking about T2-T1, and the perception that this is taking a long time. Correct me if I am wrong, the original meeting with the COI was pushed back because of some type of conflict. That also increased the duration of this case by 4 months. I am not making an inference as to penalties, just that T2-T1 is a long time.

 

[TerryP]

Just talking about T2-T1, and the perception that this is taking a long time. Correct me if I am wrong, the original meeting with the COI was pushed back because of some type of conflict. That also increased the duration of this case by 4 months. I am not making an inference as to penalties, just that T2-T1 is a long time.

I'm assuming T1 - T2 is FSU - UA? (cutting grass, trying to, between deluges this week so forgive me if the allergies are affecting my thinking.)

I recall something about a change in dates, but I'd have to look back to recall what it was exactly.

I didn't mean to sound callous towards your post David and I realize it may have sounded that way now that I read it again.

Long time? Yeah. But, not so long that it brings any concern on my part. I really feel too many people are caught up in what is speculated (next week, next week, next week) when there really isn't any basis, other than a guess, as to when it should arrive in the first place.

I understood the South Alabama case and the conjecture on arrival from that story...just as I weigh that against FSU.

Honestly, who knows what time frame their lawyers work on. Hell, I doubt they really have one to be honest. I see it as more of a situation of "which one is on top of the stack."

And, I also think that there is sufficient, and logical, reasons to think the the FSU appeal is drawing this out a little longer. Same people on the NCAA's part.

 

[deceks7]

I'm assuming T1 - T2 is FSU - UA? (cutting grass, trying to, between deluges this week so forgive me if the allergies are affecting my thinking.)

I recall something about a change in dates, but I'd have to look back to recall what it was exactly.

I didn't mean to sound callous towards your post David and I realize it may have sounded that way now that I read it again.

Long time? Yeah. But, not so long that it brings any concern on my part. I really feel too many people are caught up in what is speculated (next week, next week, next week) when there really isn't any basis, other than a guess, as to when it should arrive in the first place.

I understood the South Alabama case and the conjecture on arrival from that story...just as I weigh that against FSU.

Honestly, who knows what time frame their lawyers work on. Hell, I doubt they really have one to be honest. I see it as more of a situation of "which one is on top of the stack."

And, I also think that there is sufficient, and logical, reasons to think the the FSU appeal is drawing this out a little longer. Same people on the NCAA's part.

T2-T1 is May 2008 until June 2009. It seems that if the NCAA plans on having a process it does no one any favor by not handling it in a timely manner. Then again, I am not privy to any communications that may be going on between the relevant parties. They may agree the situation is being handled in a perfectly prudent manner. An epiphany, I realize that I am not being considered as a relevant party to these proceedings and my input is not deemed pertinent by either the NCAA or UA, that is what truly frustrates me.....

 

[TerryP]

T2-T1 is May 2008 until June 2009. It seems that if the NCAA plans on having a process it does no one any favor by not handling it in a timely manner. Then again, I am not privy to any communications that may be going on between the relevant parties. They may agree the situation is being handled in a perfectly prudent manner.

That goes back to what I said earlier. I'm far from the point of being convinced there is a time line, so the thought of being handled in a timely manner almost seems like a dream - unrealistic at that.


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An epiphany, I realize that I am not being considered as a relevant party to these proceedings and my input is not deemed pertinent by either the NCAA or UA, that is what truly frustrates me.....

...perhaps magnified by that tinge of orange running through your veins as well? (tinge due to the Red Raider blood that flows as well...)