🏈 Utah investigating the BCS

[musso]

for a violation of antitrust laws.

espn.com

 

[TerryP]

Utah is a VOLUNTARY member of the NCAA.

 

[bamarooski]

Utah is a VOLUNTARY member of the NCAA.

Ditto! It doesn't matter if the state of Utah gave up statehood and allowed you to have 15 wives! They are not the best team in the Country period! WE WERE OVERRATED THIS YEAR GUYS!we are a year or 2 away!

They could not win a round robin playoff against these teams! Florida,Texas,USC,Okla.

 

[BamaFan615]

Listen, I enjoyed having the Utah fans over on the board... most of them were good guys. And to go along with that their team whooped our's up and down the field in the Sugar Bowl. BUT, if you want be considered for a National Championship it is required that you play a tough schedule. If strength of schedule was not important than SEC schools could all schedule cup cakes and we'd have about 15 undefeated teams.

Utah has a really good team...but there is no way to judge how good they really are because they did not play a tough schedule. Their problem, not the BCS's...if they want to be considered for championships then they need to schedule tougher out of conference opponents...until they start to do this, they can go undefeated 5 seasons in a row and at the end of each they will still come up short.

Utah had a really good team, we cannot argue with that...but it's their own fault for having that kind of schedule...their biggest name that they played was Michigan (traditionally strong...but VERY weak as of late). Beating Alabama is too little, too late to warrant a National Championship IMO.

 

[bamarooski]

Listen, I enjoyed having the Utah fans over on the board... most of them were good guys. And to go along with that their team whooped our's up and down the field in the Sugar Bowl. BUT, if you want be considered for a National Championship it is required that you play a tough schedule. If strength of schedule was not important than SEC schools could all schedule cup cakes and we'd have about 15 undefeated teams.

Utah has a really good team...but there is no way to judge how good they really are because they did not play a tough schedule. Their problem, not the BCS's...if they want to be considered for championships then they need to schedule tougher out of conference opponents...until they start to do this, they can go undefeated 5 seasons in a row and at the end of each they will still come up short.

Utah had a really good team, we cannot argue with that...but it's their own fault for having that kind of schedule...their biggest name that they played was Michigan (traditionally strong...but VERY weak as of late). Beating Alabama is too little, too late to warrant a National Championship IMO.

Bigfan you are exactly right! I have for 5 years been telling my Donkie friends in Boise this! They want listen! They run their sched. up every year and want a free pass to the bigtime! pay your dues BSU,UTAH,TCU and any other freaking Mid major! Bama and other teams have paid their dues and have been robbed many time out of the N.Championship 1966,1977 just to name 2!

 

[bamadezz]

Enough Utah, give me a break. There is no way they could beat Fla. if they were able to play them. Get over it already. They feel like they deserve a NC because they beat us? Sorry guys, I don't see it.

Utah, it's time to move on and stare at your Sugar Bowl trophy...it's all your getting!

 

[Guest]

Listen, I enjoyed having the Utah fans over on the board... most of them were good guys. And to go along with that their team whooped our's up and down the field in the Sugar Bowl. BUT, if you want be considered for a National Championship it is required that you play a tough schedule. If strength of schedule was not important than SEC schools could all schedule cup cakes and we'd have about 15 undefeated teams.

Utah has a really good team...but there is no way to judge how good they really are because they did not play a tough schedule. Their problem, not the BCS's...if they want to be considered for championships then they need to schedule tougher out of conference opponents...until they start to do this, they can go undefeated 5 seasons in a row and at the end of each they will still come up short.

Utah had a really good team, we cannot argue with that...but it's their own fault for having that kind of schedule...their biggest name that they played was Michigan (traditionally strong...but VERY weak as of late). Beating Alabama is too little, too late to warrant a National Championship IMO.

Bigfan you are exactly right! I have for 5 years been telling my Donkie friends in Boise this! They want listen! They run their sched. up every year and want a free pass to the bigtime! pay your dues BSU,UTAH,TCU and any other freaking Mid major! Bama and other teams have paid their dues and have been robbed many time out of the N.Championship 1966,1977 just to name 2!

That ain't me. That is BamaFan615.

 

[reger60]

:roll:

 

[SkinyUte]

Listen, I enjoyed having the Utah fans over on the board... most of them were good guys. And to go along with that their team whooped our's up and down the field in the Sugar Bowl. BUT, if you want be considered for a National Championship it is required that you play a tough schedule. If strength of schedule was not important than SEC schools could all schedule cup cakes and we'd have about 15 undefeated teams.

Utah has a really good team...but there is no way to judge how good they really are because they did not play a tough schedule. Their problem, not the BCS's...if they want to be considered for championships then they need to schedule tougher out of conference opponents...until they start to do this, they can go undefeated 5 seasons in a row and at the end of each they will still come up short.

Utah had a really good team, we cannot argue with that...but it's their own fault for having that kind of schedule...their biggest name that they played was Michigan (traditionally strong...but VERY weak as of late). Beating Alabama is too little, too late to warrant a National Championship IMO.

According to CBS Sportsline, Utah had a higher SOS than Bama (57 vs. 63), and you guys were 1 bad quarter away from playing in the championship game. If USC had gone undefeated, I'm guessing they would have been handed the national title without many people telling them to schedule tougher teams, even though they also had a lower SOS than Utah (57 vs 67). Seems to me that the "play tougher teams" argument doesn't really hold much water.

And FWIW, I'm not at all in favor of our Attorney General's actions. It looks like nothing more than a case of sour grapes and I wish he'd shut his trap.

 

[SkinyUte]

Enough Utah, give me a break. There is no way they could beat Fla. if they were able to play them. Get over it already. They feel like they deserve a NC because they beat us? Sorry guys, I don't see it.

Utah, it's time to move on and stare at your Sugar Bowl trophy...it's all your getting!

To be fair, that's exactly what everyone was saying before we beat Bama as well. Funny how it's gone from "Utah could never possibly beat Bama" to "Bama was overrated, but Utah could never possibly beat Florida". It's a shame that we'll never know.

 

[bama4life]

This thread.....

 

[Guest]

for a violation of antitrust laws.

espn.com

This is not the first time that a politician has postured on this exact issue. I wonder what future political ambitions he has.

I heard one of the ESPN radio guys last night talking about the general national championship issue. He wanted to dump the computer renkings and the polls and have a selection committee just like basketball does to select and seed the teams for an eight team tournament to decide it all.

That is the best idea I've heard yet.

 

[Swamptick]

That can't be true. This is an early April fools day joke. You can't complain over something you CHOSE to be a member of. If they don't like it, move to a real conference or get out of the NCAA.

/shrug

 

[Guest]

According to CBS Sportsline, Utah had a higher SOS than Bama (57 vs. 63), and you guys were 1 bad quarter away from playing in the championship game. If USC had gone undefeated, I'm guessing they would have been handed the national title without many people telling them to schedule tougher teams, even though they also had a lower SOS than Utah (57 vs 67). Seems to me that the "play tougher teams" argument doesn't really hold much water. (quote)


The last time I checked, the Pac10 won all their bowl games. USC is the best team in the nation, if we had a playoff. Since we don't, Florida will beat Oklahoma and Utah should be named number one. They beat Bama worse.

Get a playoff.

 

[crimsonclutch]

If Utah really wants respect do what BYU did, they(BYU) opens next season against Oklahoma! Now if they go undefeated then they have legs to stand on. I lived in SLC, I know these Ute fans. They complain about everything and the state political leaders are all Ute grads. Half the campus is named after the governor. Go back to your tree hugging home on the mountain and keep on trying to be crimson and trying to be a holy as BYU.

P.S. Huntsman is weak

 

[Outlaw]

Enough Utah, give me a break. There is no way they could beat Fla. if they were able to play them. Get over it already. They feel like they deserve a NC because they beat us? Sorry guys, I don't see it.

Utah, it's time to move on and stare at your Sugar Bowl trophy...it's all your getting!

I'm glad you can say that for sure. Were you saying that about our game as well? Because, a lot of people were.

They just beat us like we stole something from them, and you say there is no way they can play with Florida? Why? Is Florida that much ahead of us?

They have a very good argument, but I don't like the way they are going about it...

 

[redandwhite10]

If Utah really wants respect do what BYU did, they(BYU) opens next season against Oklahoma! Now if they go undefeated then they have legs to stand on. I lived in SLC, I know these Ute fans. They complain about everything and the state political leaders are all Ute grads. Half the campus is named after the governor. Go back to your tree hugging home on the mountain and keep on trying to be crimson and trying to be a holy as BYU.

P.S. Huntsman is weak

I am going to go out on a limb and say that 95% of fans do not understand scheduling. Utah's stadium only holds 46,000 at the moment. That means a team like Alabama would lose money coming out here to play us. Same goes with all traditional powers.

This means that the big name schools will only do a one and done deal with a school like Utah. So Utah has to agree to play at your place or not at all. The problem here is that Utah would have to get maybe 3 really bigtime teams on their schedule in any given year, and all of those games are on the road.

So, we have to play everyone on the road and only conference games at home. That is simply not an equal playing field.

Another point is that we shouldn't be punished for scheduling a power and then have them have a bad year. I mean, we scheduled @Michigan long before anyone knew they would tank.

Lastly, I gaurantee you Utah will play anyone anywhere, but not a lot of big name teams want to face a team like Utah in their OOC. It's a risky game. Nothing to gain, everything to lose.

In short, Utah is up a creek without a paddle. We have the desire to schedule anyone, but the cards are stacked against us no matter what. No matter how you spin it, Utah will never be considered for a title.

 

[Guest]

Utah might do well to follow the example of your rival and play a big time opponent on a neutral field. We went to Atlanta this past season to play Clemson and will be playing Virginia Tech there this time around. TV money and exposure for a big game can make up for lost revenue form losing a home date.

 

[bamadezz]

Enough Utah, give me a break. There is no way they could beat Fla. if they were able to play them. Get over it already. They feel like they deserve a NC because they beat us? Sorry guys, I don't see it.

Utah, it's time to move on and stare at your Sugar Bowl trophy...it's all your getting!

I'm glad you can say that for sure. Were you saying that about our game as well? Because, a lot of people were.

They just beat us like we stole something from them, and you say there is no way they can play with Florida? Why? Is Florida that much ahead of us?

They have a very good argument, but I don't like the way they are going about it...

Yes, I will stand by my comment. They could not beat Florida if they were faced against them. Now about us, not sure what happened last Fri. All I know is that's not the team I watched play all season. We had an honest chance to beat UF, and let it slip away. I honestly don't believe most of their hearts were in the game against Utah. Was it the Andre distraction, who knows what it was. We may never know.

I'm not knocking Utah, they played a great game. They looked impressive...compared to us, in that game. I watched them play some Christian college in a replayed game they aired a few days before they played us and to be honest, they weren't that impressive. Emotions played a big part of this game in my opinion. I feel like Utah wanted it WAY more then our team, sorry. They had a point to prove.

Emotion aside, Florida would wear them down in the end and beat em down. I could be wrong, just an opinion.

Oh btw, I was saying that about our game with Florida. I honestly knew in the back of my heart, we were fighting an uphill battle against Florida. My wife can tell you how much I worried about that Florida game. I was worried about them long before the match was setup. I called them and Bama in the SEC championship when everyone was saying it'd be Bama/UGA early on. After the loss, it was almost a relief as much as a heart breaker.

 

[Guest]

Listen, I enjoyed having the Utah fans over on the board... most of them were good guys. And to go along with that their team whooped our's up and down the field in the Sugar Bowl. BUT, if you want be considered for a National Championship it is required that you play a tough schedule. If strength of schedule was not important than SEC schools could all schedule cup cakes and we'd have about 15 undefeated teams.

Utah has a really good team...but there is no way to judge how good they really are because they did not play a tough schedule. Their problem, not the BCS's...if they want to be considered for championships then they need to schedule tougher out of conference opponents...until they start to do this, they can go undefeated 5 seasons in a row and at the end of each they will still come up short.

Utah had a really good team, we cannot argue with that...but it's their own fault for having that kind of schedule...their biggest name that they played was Michigan (traditionally strong...but VERY weak as of late). Beating Alabama is too little, too late to warrant a National Championship IMO.

According to CBS Sportsline, Utah had a higher SOS than Bama (57 vs. 63), and you guys were 1 bad quarter away from playing in the championship game. If USC had gone undefeated, I'm guessing they would have been handed the national title without many people telling them to schedule tougher teams, even though they also had a lower SOS than Utah (57 vs 67). Seems to me that the "play tougher teams" argument doesn't really hold much water.

And FWIW, I'm not at all in favor of our Attorney General's actions. It looks like nothing more than a case of sour grapes and I wish he'd shut his trap.

I quit reading when I saw "CBS" as the source.