šŸˆ Two POS Barner Players

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Harass a vet with PTSD and her service dog...

http://lightlybuzzed.com/2015/02/17/auburn-football-players-accused-harassing-veteran-service-dog/

UPDATE 11:10 P.M.
Two Auburn football players are accused of harassing a female veteran with PTSD and her service dog today on Auburn’s campus.
The players accused of taunting the veteran and her service dog are Defensive Tackle Dontavious Russell and defensive lineman Andrew Williams.
The story was spotted on a Facebook page called Service Dog Memes.

The Facebook page also posted the names and information of the players accused.

Crystal Stoddard, the sister of the accuser also took to Facebook.

We spoke to Crystal Stoddard the accuser’s sister and she said it’s more than PTSD. ā€œā€She has PTSD, but it’s caused by MST which is Military Sexual Trauma. We won’t go into the details of what happened, but anything can make her relive that trauma. When those players were yelling at her and using those names it was like she was reliving the trauma not just what was happening then.ā€
Mrs. Stoddard confirmed that this is the accusers account of the incident in her own words. The statement matches an earlier post on the Service Dogs Memes Facebook page.

The Stoddard family did say that Auburn offered to have Williams and Russell apologize in a private confidential meeting, but that’s not good enough for them. ā€œShe was publicly humiliated and that’s why I won’t accept anything but a public apology for my sister.ā€
ā€œThe players at least need to stand up and publicly apologize, that’s the minimum bar for what we will acceptā€ said Mrs. Stoddard. ā€œThese players are looked up to, there are little boys who wear Auburn jerseys and go to every game. They need to apologize and prove that this isn’t the kind of people they are.ā€
When asked what was motivating her to get this story out Mrs. Stoddard said ā€œI worked at Auburn, I know how things are, I knew we had to make a big deal of this. I didn’t want this swept under the rug.ā€
As you might expect the family has gotten negative push back from trying to make this a public incident. ā€œI’ve been getting a lot of negative comments from people, but how could you not want to defend that person who defended you?ā€
ā€œMy sister is a female veteran and has a service dog. Even if you eliminate any two of those things how could you harass her? She was being harassed because she was different.ā€ said Mrs. Stoddard.
Beyond the offer of a private meeting Mrs. Stoddard says that Coach Malzhan did call the victim and say he would speak with his players.
We also reached out to Auburn University and were told by Associate AD Cassie Arner that the university has contacted the parties involved in this incident and are investigating. Auburn does want the public to know that they are taking this situation seriously.
I don’t think Russell and Williams should be kicked off the team with what we know right now, but they certainly need to apologize publicly. If they harassed the accuser in public, then they need to face a whole lot of wind sprints and a public apology at the very least.
Auburn University a major state school, any actions that may have happened do not represent the views of Auburn, but of those involved.
What do you think about this story? Let us know in the comments below.
 
maybe they should be forced to harass a police officer who is on canine duty and let's see what happens with THAT dog.

hell, i'd pay to watch that one.

nothing but a couple of piece of sh!t punks who need to be taught a lesson.

they also need to be made to give that public apology. then, go to the local Veteran's Administration hospital and tell all the Vets there what they did and have to face the consequences of their actions.

this may sound like i'm being a keyboard commando here, but it's a damn good thing i didn't witness that in person. i don't take kindly to people who harass a Veteran. i probably would've gotten my ass kicked, but i can tell you that they sure wouldn't be laughing when it was over.

i think they should be kicked off the team for doing what they did. and no, not just because they're auburn players. i think this of ANY player from ANY school.....ALABAMA included. you just DON'T do something like that!


just when i thought i couldn't hate auburn any more than i already did.....
 
Force them to watch the documentary Restrepo and then Korengal, and then ship their big asses over there and see how they like screwing with a between after that. Punk bastards are the kind of individuals taking over this country where they have no clue the costs of being free. They've been given things their entire lives and somehow think it just happens because it happens, not because of the sacrifice of so many. Send them to Paris Island this Summer for a week and teach them a lesson.
 
I'll ask the obvious question, how would they know she was a Veteran?

I'm a Veteran (and I'm not speaking for other Veterans). I don't believe that her being a Veteran has anything to do with the discussion based on what I've read thus far. Now had she said, I'm a Veteran who suffers from PTSD and this dog gives me some normalcy and they continued being assholes, then by all means, use the Veteran card. I just think it is being used to pull at the heart strings.

I don't condone what these guys did, but think back to what's happened at Alabama and who we've given second chance to. How do their incidents compare to this one?
 
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I'll ask the obvious question, how would they know she was a Veteran?

I'm a Veteran (and I'm not speaking for other Veterans). I don't believe that her being a Veteran has anything to do with the discussion based on what I've read thus far. Now had she said, I'm a Veteran who suffers from PTSD and this dog gives me some normalcy and they continued being assholes, then by all means, use the Veteran card. I just think it is being used to pull at the heart strings.

I don't condone what these guys did, but think back to what's happened at Alabama and who we've given second chance to. How do their incidents compare to this one?

I think common sense shows anyone the difference between an ordinary dog on a leash and a service dog. Service dogs have tags on them, special leashes, and a lot of the time a harness to be controlled and easier to direct a human. I still have a hard time with the actions of the ones we gave second chances to, and I've been critical of us allowing them to wear our colors, so harassment of a woman by two football players pisses me off no matter who the victim is. Veterans always tug at our heart strings, as they should because the things they see make our days look like a rated G movie. And they sacrifice the ultimate sacrifice, life. So use that card all you freaking want as it was earned and well deserved. It's not on the same level as the race card and all the stuff we've seen that show up at.
 
I have heard that her report is rather sensationalized. I suspect it didn't go down nearly as she reported it. Not to say she wasn't harassed, and that they weren't wrong, but I think this is wildly over reported. I agree that the veteran stuff is irrelevant. Since the PTSD isn't combat related, her being a veteran isn't really relevant here.
 
It would have been patently obvious that the dog is service dog, and even a stupid barner football player should not be messing with anyone's service dog. So you re saying it is ok to harass someone with a service dog if their PTSD is not combat related.
 
It would have been patently obvious that the dog is service dog, and even a stupid barner football player should not be messing with anyone's service dog. So you re saying it is ok to harass someone with a service dog if their PTSD is not combat related.
Clearly not. I'm saying that I think 1. Her statement is overly dramatic, and inconsistent with reality. I have my suspicions as to why. and 2. I think think this story has gained traction only because she is a veteran, which is irrelevant here.
 
I had no idea they were using dogs to help Vets with PTSD.

Perhaps these two should be sentenced to live in Tiger Lodge for a few years.

Comic Cowboys strike again...


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Clearly not. I'm saying that I think 1. Her statement is overly dramatic, and inconsistent with reality. I have my suspicions as to why. and 2. I think think this story has gained traction only because she is a veteran, which is irrelevant here.

Why even mention that the PTSD is not combat related then. If you don't believe her story, jut say so. Perhaps it is you who is being overly dramatic.
 
Are we surprised Auburn players would harass someone (anyone) with a service dog?

Auburn players are the same as UA players, the same as UGA players, the same as Michigan players, or any other player. This whole thread stinks of "when a man points a finger at someone else, he should remember that three of his fingers are pointing at himself."
 
Auburn players are the same as UA players, the same as UGA players, the same as Michigan players, or any other player. This whole thread stinks of "when a man points a finger at someone else, he should remember that three of his fingers are pointing at himself."

That's painting with a really broad stroke of the brush.
 
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