📝 Trump signs executive order on college sports...

[Brandon Van de Graaff]

It's really probably not even worth posting, but it is news (for now). Attorneys are the big winners and in the end I doubt much impact is made. But we'll see.

 

[Justneedme81]

This gonna be interesting battle for next few months.

 

[rammerjammer]

Since the NCAA is full of spineless pussies. I think the scuttle-butt of the BIG10 and SEC starting their own organization should probably happen sooner rather than later. Cap the money, and close some of the loop-holes on the extra money (like the first game neutral site game money).

Limit transfers OR make the contracts to where they are penalized by having to sit out and pay back money if they leave before their time is up.

 

[Brandon Van de Graaff]

Since the NCAA is full of spineless pussies. I think the scuttle-butt of the BIG10 and SEC starting their own organization should probably happen sooner rather than later. Cap the money, and close some of the loop-holes on the extra money (like the first game neutral site game money).

Limit transfers OR make the contracts to where they are penalized by having to sit out and pay back money if they leave before their time is up.

It's coming... In some way, shape, or form.

 

[TerryP]

Cap the money, and close some of the loop-holes on the extra money (like the first game neutral site game money).

You've lost me here, D. It's my understanding that money would go into the general fund which is capped (revenue.)

 

[RTB X Bot]

 

[alabama mike]

Some substantial must be done. The state of college athletics has turned into the Wild West where kids transfer at will, hold schools hostage for more money and have not loyalty to a college or university. Coaches have to recruit their players all over every single year, hope some kids do not leave and then figure out how they are going to pay the players. Right now, we are nothing more than a glorified farm system for the NFL and NBA.

 

[24and7]

Some low life federal judge to strike it down in 3, 2, 1

 

[Krimson]

Some substantial must be done. The state of college athletics has turned into the Wild West where kids transfer at will, hold schools hostage for more money and have not loyalty to a college or university. Coaches have to recruit their players all over every single year, hope some kids do not leave and then figure out how they are going to pay the players. Right now, we are nothing more than a glorified farm system for the NFL and NBA.

Yep. I don't have much gad left for college football. Wouldn't bother me much if I just quit watching now.

 

[Kamikazi18627]

I don’t understand why the president should intervene at all.

 

[TerryP]

I don’t understand why the president should intervene at all.

It took this type of action for the NFL / AFL "dispute" to be resolved years ago. The TV rights dispute took intervention through governmental courts.

What other options are left?

 

[rammerjammer]

You've lost me here, D. It's my understanding that money would go into the general fund which is capped (revenue.)

I'm being kind of vague.....but ultimately, I feel that each team should only be allowed to spend xx amount on each sport. I feel as though each school gets an NIL allotment of 100 million per university. Set a cap of 30 million on your most important sport. For us it is football, UK would be basketball. USCjr...women's basketball. But really have guard rails and guidelines to keep everything in check as much as possible. This would get it back to being able to coach and recruit. Players still get paid, but it is no longer the inmates running the asylum. They are wanting parity and this would bring it about, but still have to require good coaching and not just going out and spending a ton of money on buying your way in every year.

 

[TerryP]

I'm being kind of vague.....but ultimately, I feel that each team should only be allowed to spend xx amount on each sport. I feel as though each school gets an NIL allotment of 100 million per university. Set a cap of 30 million on your most important sport. For us it is football, UK would be basketball. USCjr...women's basketball. But really have guard rails and guidelines to keep everything in check as much as possible. This would get it back to being able to coach and recruit. Players still get paid, but it is no longer the inmates running the asylum. They are wanting parity and this would bring it about, but still have to require good coaching and not just going out and spending a ton of money on buying your way in every year.

Four issues I see:

1. NIL
2. Revenue share
3. Transfers
4. Eligibility

The first on this list is the only one I see as something that is out of control. In my opinion it's out of the hands of the NCAA, the respective schools, and the government. Quite frankly, it's already settled.

Ahmad Hardy and Kewan Lacy. Which name do you recognize? They're both SEC RB's; Mizzou and Ole Miss respectively. I'm assuming it's Hardy. The amount of money he makes on his name shouldn't be regulated. And yes, that'll still allow school boosters to give out ridiculous amounts. But to restrict the amount Ahmad can make off of his name and what he's done so far? I don't see that as being legal; much less fair.

The last three? Easily enough accomplished with #2 requiring a little work.

 

[Krimson]

Four issues I see:

1. NIL
2. Revenue share
3. Transfers
4. Eligibility

The first on this list is the only one I see as something that is out of control. In my opinion it's out of the hands of the NCAA, the respective schools, and the government. Quite frankly, it's already settled.

Ahmad Hardy and Kewan Lacy. Which name do you recognize? They're both SEC RB's; Mizzou and Ole Miss respectively. I'm assuming it's Hardy. The amount of money he makes on his name shouldn't be regulated. And yes, that'll still allow school boosters to give out ridiculous amounts. But to restrict the amount Ahmad can make off of his name and what he's done so far? I don't see that as being legal; much less fair.

The last three? Easily enough accomplished with #2 requiring a little work.

I agree that you can't cap what a player can make from NIL and you shouldn't but I also think it should be a true market value. NFL players aren't normally given $10mill for a single autograph and boosters shouldn't be allowed to do that either imo. Pay them fair market value for real things, commercials, autograph sessions, jersey sales, etc. but where's the parity that they were looking for coming from if the schools with the richest boosters are just allowed to guarantee them a bigger sum than other schools?

I think a one time transfer with no penalty should also be in place. After that, sit a year. Have rules for special situations but enforce them consistently.

And for goodness sake go back to 5 years max playing 4.

 

[TerryP]

I agree that you can't cap what a player can make from NIL and you shouldn't but I also think it should be a true market value.

How is that assessed? Market value can't be the same everywhere. It's a lot like "cost of living" attendance stipends.

 

[Kamikazi18627]

It took this type of action for the NFL / AFL "dispute" to be resolved years ago. The TV rights dispute took intervention through governmental courts.

What other options are left?

I feel it’s a private manner.

 

[We All Bleed Crimson]

You gotta start somewhere. I like that he has put something out there.

 

[Krimson]

How is that assessed? Market value can't be the same everywhere. It's a lot like "cost of living" attendance stipends.

Payments could be vetted using deviation from average as a guide but the big thing for me is an amount for NIL couldn't be guaranteed or in a contract before the player signed.

 

[TerryP]

Payments could be vetted using deviation from average as a guide but the big thing for me is an amount for NIL couldn't be guaranteed or in a contract before the player signed.

It's the first part I have a hard time wrapping my mind around. I may be making a mountain out of a mole here. I just wonder how we can find a fair market value when the markets are so different. As an off the wall hypothetical, do we compare a snow board deal with a kid at Colorado the same as a surfing board to a kid in Hawaii? A shoe deal for a kid at TT is going to be different than one for a kid at St. Johns: and here it's just the shoe itself that's different from the start.

There's A LOT of some things I hate here: math, calculations ...

 

['65 Cobra]

Four issues I see:

1. NIL
2. Revenue share
3. Transfers
4. Eligibility

The first on this list is the only one I see as something that is out of control. In my opinion it's out of the hands of the NCAA, the respective schools, and the government. Quite frankly, it's already settled.

Ahmad Hardy and Kewan Lacy. Which name do you recognize? They're both SEC RB's; Mizzou and Ole Miss respectively. I'm assuming it's Hardy. The amount of money he makes on his name shouldn't be regulated. And yes, that'll still allow school boosters to give out ridiculous amounts. But to restrict the amount Ahmad can make off of his name and what he's done so far? I don't see that as being legal; much less fair.

The last three? Easily enough accomplished with #2 requiring a little work.

I understand your premise, and as a libertarian, I generally concur. However, that premise is applicable in a free market scenario. Amateur athletes playing for educational institutions while getting an education do not represent a free market scenario in my opinion. Further, the value that the institution provides in the form of facilities, training, nutrition, marketing, housing and education are not quantified and use to make adjustments - and that will never change. Overall, it's a real conundrum because of your point and mine being in conflict when it comes to college sports. We all know that "NIL" isn't even really about name, image and likeness, but rather an excuse to allow ultra-wealthy boosters to pay players to come to their alma mater. Maybe we need to just set up an actual NFL farm league and players can decide to skip college altogether and just go there from high school and then they can NIL themselves to whatever level they want. Of course, that marketplace probably doesn't exist because there are no associated boosters that care about a farm league team.

Last point, why stop at college? Why not let high school athletes get into the "NIL" game?