🌎 "Trump has arrested a murderer, a dictator, a drug lord, and here is why it's wrong and bad for the USA." - Maduro's arrest in Venezuala

[footballer]

By law, there is only one place the FBI and DEA can not use the military to arrest a fugitive. It's within the boarders of the United States. That law has been on the books for a century and a half, or more.

What's funny is seeing, hearing, and reading where the "harm" will come from in the aftermath. The lovely Jasmine Crockett suggests it's because he wants to go to war with Venuzuala? (Uh, what?) The reason for that war is so he can stop the next elections.

You know the old "walk, talk, quack like a duck?" If it sounds deranged? It's because it is.

The right or wrong I referred to was not about the legality of the operation, but only one reason about the Dominon voting machines that are not supposed to be able to connect to the internet, Which I believe that is false and can be manipulated to change votes and also split one single vote into 4 different votes. These type of machines have been in use for many years and potentially thrown many elections, state and federal as well as in other countries. I DO NOT get any information from msm - legacy media, newspapers, mags or news sources of that nature. Although, I do watch Newsmax on occasion. I know, many things can and are faked these days. But there are screen shots grabbed from election night from msm showing votes being flipped from Trump to Biden. It was not reported by them, maybe not noticed? I don't remember the actual number of votes. Just say that 1,000 would disappear from Trumps total and reappear in Bidens column. ??????

The Trump camp says they have all the information needed to prove widespread cheating, from the machines to, to receiving and counting votes many days after election day, (se Az) counting votes not signed by election officials - chain of custody (see Ga}, voting regularities in NY, NJ, Penn, Minn, Ill, CO, CA, with way outdated voter rolls, dead people and illegals voting. Mail in ballots because of covid?????????? Another burning question is where did the, was it 17 million votes, extra that Biden received in 2020 that Obama, Hillary or Kamala did not get? Go figure.

Q was an "operation" for the Anons, followers to do their own research into the Q "drops". Becoming citizen journalist and informing we citizens of what is REALLY going on at home and abroad. Which we DO NOT get from the legacy media. Some of these Patriot or citizen journalist have fairly elaborate news gathering organizations. Look up G. Michael Flynns opinion of Patriot journalist.

Pray tell me how candidates like Newsome, Pilosi, Shiff and others continue to be " elected " in Cali? Are voters there that damn stupid or blind?
How many billions of $ has their leadership gone through or stolen in the name of helping the homeless or building their railway or re - building after burning the place down? The wiser voters have already left there or are making plans to move as are some of their industry.

I think there are some people who cannot grasp how much money a billion dollars is. Add $1.00 to this number. $999.999,999.00 An enormous sum of money. It is believed that the Minnesota theft of 8 or 9 billion$ is only a drop in the bucket compared to Cali. NY, Illinois, and other blue states that are also being investigated for fraud.

I was not commenting on the legality of the operation. Only one of the reasons for Maduro arrest. I had mentioned in an earlier post about P Trump reviving the Monroe Doctrine. Protecting our hemisphere from Mexico, Panama, Russian, Iranic and Chinese foot holds in Venezuela Chili, Brazil and other South American countries.

 

[musso]

What do you propose?

 

[musso]

Okay, let's go your way. It was not about traffficking, it was about control of natural resources. It's all been a ruse...

There are several reasons of which I'm aware of why we toppled him, probably more of which I'm not aware. But controlling the natural resources is certainly among them. Another reason IMO is securing a hemispheric oil supply before Israel and Iran go at it again, risking the Strait of Hormuz. Israel has frankly been wanting regime change in that country for a long time.

 

[musso]

Five years ago this administration was loudly criticized for not removing him from power. Now, it's a bad thing. What's changed?

It isn't about what's has happened. It's all about who was in charge of the administration when it happened.

I don't get involved in partisanship. I couldn't care less who opposed or supported it back when another party was in power.

 

[TerryP]

There are several reasons of which I'm aware of why we toppled him, probably more of which I'm not aware. But controlling the natural resources is certainly among them. Another reason IMO is securing a hemispheric oil supply before Israel and Iran go at it again, risking the Strait of Hormuz. Israel has frankly been wanting regime change in that country for a long time.

I've made jokes in this thread. I'm thrown out things to provoke promote conversation. I'll let you be the judge on which, is which.

In all seriousness. I have no problems with this for one reason.

I've said many times I'm not one who believes you should stand in front of an action and its consequences. That's been my view on a lot of illegal drugs and a lot of legal ones as well. If you want to blow a couple of hundred on an eight ball? Go for it. If that eight ball is stopped before it gets here? Intercede. Intercede all day long.

I know a few people who enjoy cocaine. I told them to stock up becaue the street value?

 

[It Takes Eleven]

This is just foreign policy. How do you think a case brought by the federal government should be adjudicated? Should it be heard by federal judges, and ultimately by the Supreme Court?

 

[It Takes Eleven]

The right or wrong I referred to was not about the legality of the operation, but only one reason about the Dominon voting machines that are not supposed to be able to connect to the internet, Which I believe that is false and can be manipulated to change votes and also split one single vote into 4 different votes. These type of machines have been in use for many years and potentially thrown many elections, state and federal as well as in other countries. I DO NOT get any information from msm - legacy media, newspapers, mags or news sources of that nature. Although, I do watch Newsmax on occasion. I know, many things can and are faked these days. But there are screen shots grabbed from election night from msm showing votes being flipped from Trump to Biden. It was not reported by them, maybe not noticed? I don't remember the actual number of votes. Just say that 1,000 would disappear from Trumps total and reappear in Bidens column. ??????

The Trump camp says they have all the information needed to prove widespread cheating, from the machines to, to receiving and counting votes many days after election day, (se Az) counting votes not signed by election officials - chain of custody (see Ga}, voting regularities in NY, NJ, Penn, Minn, Ill, CO, CA, with way outdated voter rolls, dead people and illegals voting. Mail in ballots because of covid?????????? Another burning question is where did the, was it 17 million votes, extra that Biden received in 2020 that Obama, Hillary or Kamala did not get? Go figure.

Q was an "operation" for the Anons, followers to do their own research into the Q "drops". Becoming citizen journalist and informing we citizens of what is REALLY going on at home and abroad. Which we DO NOT get from the legacy media. Some of these Patriot or citizen journalist have fairly elaborate news gathering organizations. Look up G. Michael Flynns opinion of Patriot journalist.

Pray tell me how candidates like Newsome, Pilosi, Shiff and others continue to be " elected " in Cali? Are voters there that damn stupid or blind?
How many billions of $ has their leadership gone through or stolen in the name of helping the homeless or building their railway or re - building after burning the place down? The wiser voters have already left there or are making plans to move as are some of their industry.

I think there are some people who cannot grasp how much money a billion dollars is. Add $1.00 to this number. $999.999,999.00 An enormous sum of money. It is believed that the Minnesota theft of 8 or 9 billion$ is only a drop in the bucket compared to Cali. NY, Illinois, and other blue states that are also being investigated for fraud.

I was not commenting on the legality of the operation. Only one of the reasons for Maduro arrest. I had mentioned in an earlier post about P Trump reviving the Monroe Doctrine. Protecting our hemisphere from Mexico, Panama, Russian, Iranic and Chinese foot holds in Venezuela Chili, Brazil and other South American countries.

No one is doing research in the conspiracy realm. They feed fiction to a gullible audience.

Are voters that stupid or blind? Yes, liberal voters want a socialist society where benefits are easily available - from multiple sources - so that they do not have to work, or they languish in the California industry of funding nonprofits from the government coffers. They do not care that they will ultimately bankrupt the state. This article gives a perspective of California's social "safety net", which to me resembles more of a cozy hammock for those with no shame.

Free link below, pdf attached.

https://www.wsj.com/opinion/the-scandal-of-american-welfare-goes-beyond-fraud-befdbeb4?st=ZM6VEm&reflink=desktopwebshare_permalink

 

[musso]

This is just foreign policy. How do you think a case brought by the federal government should be adjudicated? Should it be heard by federal judges, and ultimately by the Supreme Court?

I’m really not sure how to improve the existing court system without tearing it down. My only point was that the idea of three equal independent branches who check each other’s ambition was proven to be pure theory as early as the War of 1812. The Articles of Confederation didn’t need to be disbanded. I’ll say this, there is a greater likelihood of justice the smaller the polity is. When we’re talking about the most expensive empire the planet has ever seen, you can expect what we have today. The Antifederalists have been proven right tenfold.

 

[footballer]

https://www.wsj.com/opinion/the-scandal-of-american-welfare-goes-beyond-fraud-befdbeb4?st=ZM6VEm&reflink=desktopwebshare_permalink

Good article, thanks for posting.

No one is doing research in the conspiracy realm. They feed fiction to a gullible audience.

But there are some researchers who call out some of those theorist for what they are, swizzle sticks ( shit stirrers ) who want nothing more than clicks and act as if the world revolves around them. For everyone of those people, there are probably at least two other researchers who are only searching for the truth, and back up their research with hard Facts. I can't sit here and produce much of my findings, but as time has proceeded, very quickly I might add, there have been several theories proven to be actual conspiracies. As time marches on, I fully expect there will be many more Real conspiracies proven. In history, time has proven to be a strong detergent, washing away the BS from the fabric of Real facts.

On the other side of the same token, you and I both know, almost every point brought up by the Right is a conspiracy theory according to the Left. Who can trust the CIA? I believe, after all, they were the first to coin or token the conspiracy theory description of events and thoughts.

 

[musso]

 

[TerryP]

But there are some researchers who call out some of those theorist for what they are, swizzle sticks ( shit stirrers ) who want nothing more than clicks and act as if the world revolves around them.

I agree, somewhat, with your premise here. I can't say I agree with what drives them; their motivation. It most certainly is about generating traffic for their accounts. But, I can't blame them for their attempts no matter how misguided they may be.

On page two of this thread I posted two accounts from X and the original video just to show how the same story can be framed in two different ways.

If we have politicians who are shit stirrers how do you expect the media who covers them, and in a lot of cases support them, not to stir the same pot in a different room?

I see a lot of misguided and ill-informed people in this group you speak of.

Are voters that stupid or blind? Yes

 

[TerryP]

When asked about all the people who love cocaine but want fentanyl off the streets...

"For all the people who love cocaine, I'm sorry..." VPOTUS.

Stock up, coke heads. Inflation is comin'! It's a supply and demand thing, just like petroleum @ElephantStomp