🏈 This could become a problem

[JoshB]

Apparently the Pacific Pro Football League has been in the works for some time but I'm just now hearing about for the first time on my ride into work this morning as Ed McAffrey (who is a part of the league) was interviewing an NFL Agent who is an executive for this league...

The league will not only allow players fresh out of high school to play, but ONLY players that are within a four-year timespan following high school are eligible to play in the league. They are going to offer base salaries, benefits and even will pay for one year's tuition (and books) at a community college for their players (meaning the player would have to pay for the other year).

The first year is only going to be four teams and will begin play next July (it's going to be a summer league). Now, at first glance I would kind of shrug it off as a league that won't make it past a year or two but not only do they have Addidas as a corporate sponsor but evidently several streaming services have thrown some big offers to them, too.

When you look at four teams it doesn't seem like too much of a big deal, but when you take into account that each team will have 50 players, that's around 200 total players, all of which would likely be on college rosters instead. I know the majority of big time high school athletes aren't going to take a risk like this but there will def. be some big time recruits that the offer of money straight out of high school will be too much to turn down (especially kids that literally come from nothing) and this league, which is promoting itself as a stepping stone to the NFL just like college, is bringing in a ton of NFL talent like Mike Shanahan to develop these kids.

I'm all for more options and I love that new leagues are popping up (it looks like by 2020 we are going to have literally year-round football with the AAF (winter Feb-April), XFL (April-June) and Pacific Pro (July-August) but this could end up having a huge impact on college football.

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[OldPlayer]

What kind of money are they offering? My bet is that the marginal players may explore it. Remember, players can't get into the NFL until they are three years out of high school. So, they can go directly to the PPFL, get paid and spend their pay on housing, food, gas and life for three years or go to college and have their room and board paid for, get a stipend for expenses, come out with a degree that will allow them to be paid more than with only a high school education AND possibly go to the NFL, CFL or business.

 

[JoshB]

What kind of money are they offering? My bet is that the marginal players may explore it. Remember, players can't get into the NFL until they are three years out of high school. So, they can go directly to the PPFL, get paid and spend their pay on housing, food, gas and life for three years or go to college and have their room and board paid for, get a stipend for expenses, come out with a degree that will allow them to be paid more than with only a high school education AND possibly go to the NFL, CFL or business.

$50,000 base salary.

 

[rocknthefreeworld]

Players who can't get into a name college may run after this. I doubt highly recruited kids will.

 

[planomateo]

Boise State in trouble...

 

[JoshB]

Players who can't get into a name college may run after this. I doubt highly recruited kids will.

I think there will be at least a couple of big names players that do it. Maybe not the first year but def. in years to come (if it lasts).

 

[TUSKtimes]

I think there will be at least a couple of big names players that do it. Maybe not the first year but def. in years to come (if it lasts).

Maybe the problem child will gravitate to what's available as well. The system they are playing in better be good enough to regulate teenagers that are off on their own for the first time in their life. Sounds like it's going to be a while before anyone will be making salaries with signing bonuses like the QB at Oklahoma.

 

[bradenob]

Just seems odd......

So if there are 4 teams to play in 2018, are they going to play each other twice? If so, that's 6 games..... if you are a potential freshman, and you sign for $50K, and they keep you, you can get $150K and a year at a CC, and then try to go pro.

So on the positive side, you could make, at the most $200K. You would do that for only playing 6 games (?) for 4 years - 24 games. But what kind of competition, and what kind of coaching? Because if you don't make an NFL team after 4 years, then you could go to a CC for a year, for free, at 22 years old. Then, at 23, how much money have you kept? Because now you can't play college ball. So how many kids will end up with a degree, percent wise, if they start out in this league? AND, how many will make an NFL team???? What is their ultimate future, then? $200K in their pocket over for years, MAYBE go to CC for a year (are they really going to go while they are playing?), and then a low percent will finish their degree - maybe 5 %? And maybe 5% end up going pro? So 90%, if my GUESS is correct, end up at 22 with no education, and no football career, and at 26 90% STILL have no education and no football career.

On the negative side, see above! If you AREN'T a highly recruited kid, what kind of chance do you have to get to the NFL? Less than 1% chance? If you are not highly recruited, why would this league want you?

 

[JoshB]

Just seems odd......

So if there are 4 teams to play in 2018, are they going to play each other twice? If so, that's 6 games..... if you are a potential freshman, and you sign for $50K, and they keep you, you can get $150K and a year at a CC, and then try to go pro.

So on the positive side, you could make, at the most $200K. You would do that for only playing 6 games (?) for 4 years - 24 games. But what kind of competition, and what kind of coaching? Because if you don't make an NFL team after 4 years, then you could go to a CC for a year, for free, at 22 years old. Then, at 23, how much money have you kept? Because now you can't play college ball. So how many kids will end up with a degree, percent wise, if they start out in this league? AND, how many will make an NFL team???? What is their ultimate future, then? $200K in their pocket over for years, MAYBE go to CC for a year (are they really going to go while they are playing?), and then a low percent will finish their degree - maybe 5 %? And maybe 5% end up going pro? So 90%, if my GUESS is correct, end up at 22 with no education, and no football career, and at 26 90% STILL have no education and no football career.

On the negative side, see above! If you AREN'T a highly recruited kid, what kind of chance do you have to get to the NFL? Less than 1% chance? If you are not highly recruited, why would this league want you?

Yes, they play each other twice and then again in a playoff (all four teams in the playoffs).

That 50K is the base salary, that doesn't include bonuses and things like that. The competition is the only question but coaching is going to pretty much all former NFL coaches. Shanahan is putting together the coaching staffs.

They're also promising other incentives like academic and vocational training for each team, benefits/insurance,etc.

I think there will be at least a couple of big names players that do it. Maybe not the first year but def. in years to come (if it lasts).

Maybe the problem child will gravitate to what's available as well. The system they are playing in better be good enough to regulate teenagers that are off on their own for the first time in their life. Sounds like it's going to be a while before anyone will be making salaries with signing bonuses like the QB at Oklahoma.

McAffrey said today they are thinking about putting a rule that only allows teams to run the no-huddle one or two times a game and are putting an emphasis on pro-style offense. I don't think you're really getting it. Only kids that are 18-21 years old are eligible to play. They are trying to develop players for the NFL, so there is nothing saying a kid can't make 150K over 3 years and then get a huge signing bonus in the Draft.

 

[OldPlayer]

Just seems odd......

So if there are 4 teams to play in 2018, are they going to play each other twice? If so, that's 6 games..... if you are a potential freshman, and you sign for $50K, and they keep you, you can get $150K and a year at a CC, and then try to go pro.

So on the positive side, you could make, at the most $200K. You would do that for only playing 6 games (?) for 4 years - 24 games. But what kind of competition, and what kind of coaching? Because if you don't make an NFL team after 4 years, then you could go to a CC for a year, for free, at 22 years old. Then, at 23, how much money have you kept? Because now you can't play college ball. So how many kids will end up with a degree, percent wise, if they start out in this league? AND, how many will make an NFL team???? What is their ultimate future, then? $200K in their pocket over for years, MAYBE go to CC for a year (are they really going to go while they are playing?), and then a low percent will finish their degree - maybe 5 %? And maybe 5% end up going pro? So 90%, if my GUESS is correct, end up at 22 with no education, and no football career, and at 26 90% STILL have no education and no football career.

On the negative side, see above! If you AREN'T a highly recruited kid, what kind of chance do you have to get to the NFL? Less than 1% chance? If you are not highly recruited, why would this league want you?

Once they sign a contract, they can't play in college - CC or 4-year. $50K isn't the take home amount and California is a high tax state.

 

[planomateo]

Not to mention a high cost of living state.

 

[bamachine]

50K in Cali is skid row money.

 

[Sgt. Lincoln Osiris]

Maybe the outliers like the kids that suck at life scholastically and can't qualify anywhere might try this avenue.

 

[It Takes Eleven]

Maybe the outliers like the kids that suck at life scholastically and can't qualify anywhere might try this avenue.

My only thought was about the non-qualifiers. JUCOs, in my opinion, could be the real loser if this gets legs.

 

[JoshB]

Maybe the outliers like the kids that suck at life scholastically and can't qualify anywhere might try this avenue.

My only thought was about the non-qualifiers. JUCOs, in my opinion, could be the real loser if this gets legs.

If it gains tractions, we will see JUCO's GREATLY suffer.