🏈 The miracle pass

[Killer Instinct]

We all keep alluding to the miracle pass play when the snap was high and Kelly caught it and threw it up for grabs and it went for a TD. But why did it happen that way? Because of the same poor technique our DB's have used for the last several year. I don't know who's teaching these guys to not turn and find the ball, but whoever it is needs to stop and that includes CNS if it's him. On that play, there should have been a gang of Crimson jerseys waiting to high point that ball for a pick six. But instead of finding the ball, our guys are trying to find the receiver. No Ole Miss player should have ever got near that rainbow. We grumble about miracle plays, but poor coaching and technique made that one happen. No excuse for it. The ball bounced off Minkah's headgear because as always, we aren't locating the ball. Mink or whoever was there with him should have just been waiting for that one to come down in their own arms.

 

[BamaFan334]

I think the ball was knocked down, there was just the unfortunate head gear there.

 

[OldPlayer]

Fluke play. That's all it was.

 

[Bamabww]

After that play I told my wife "the football gods are against us."

 

[JoshB]

Stop it, it was not "poor technique." Minkah played the receiver and tried to hit him to make sure he didnt catch it, while the other DB played the ball and tried to go after it. It was pure luck. There was PLENTY Alabama did wrong last night without you needing to make more bullshit up to try and pull out of your ass.

 

[jocephus8179]

We all keep alluding to the miracle pass play when the snap was high and Kelly caught it and threw it up for grabs and it went for a TD. But why did it happen that way? Because of the same poor technique our DB's have used for the last several year. I don't know who's teaching these guys to not turn and find the ball, but whoever it is needs to stop and that includes CNS if it's him. On that play, there should have been a gang of Crimson jerseys waiting to high point that ball for a pick six. But instead of finding the ball, our guys are trying to find the receiver. No Ole Miss player should have ever got near that rainbow. We grumble about miracle plays, but poor coaching and technique made that one happen. No excuse for it. The ball bounced off Minkah's headgear because as always, we aren't locating the ball. Mink or whoever was there with him should have just been waiting for that one to come down in their own arms.

I completely agree. One of the most common things i have screamed at my tv, even during our championship seasons, is TURN AROUND AND LOOK FOR THE BALL!!!! I have noticed that this is a problem every year, this year being the worst because now it's causing penalties. There is no awareness at all in our secondary. Actually, the whole team lacks awareness, except for maybe the DLine.

 

[psychojoe]

There were some times earlier this season when you could have said our DB should turn and look for the ball, but this was not one of them.

 

[OldPlayer]

The goal of a DB is to prevent the receiver from catching the ball. The DBs did that. The targeted receiver did not catch the ball. It bounced and another receiver came into the area to catch the ball. Nothing but a fluke play.

 

[Tidestalker]

The goal of a DB is to prevent the receiver from catching the ball. The DBs did that. The targeted receiver did not catch the ball. It bounced and another receiver came into the area to catch the ball. Nothing but a fluke play.

All true. The difference between good DB's and elite DB's are how they play the ball. A good DB can stop the receiver from catching it, an elite one can get a hand on the ball or take it away. I bet the Ole Miss fans are happy their guys actually look for the ball instead of just the contact... INT is a game changing play, we didn't have any.

 

[JoshB]

All true. The difference between good DB's and elite DB's are how they play the ball. A good DB can stop the receiver from catching it, an elite one can get a hand on the ball or take it away. I bet the Ole Miss fans are happy their guys actually look for the ball instead of just the contact... INT is a game changing play, we didn't have any.

You are being absolutely ridiculous. There is no way to plan or prevent that type of thing. Minkah was coming from halfway across the field and was trying to make sure the man didn't catch the pass. Now if Minkah and the other DB (can't for the life of me remember if it was Cyrus or Marlon covering him) BOTH went for the ball and ended up causing the ball to get tipped up anyway you would be whining about that.

There have been more than one time this year and last where a DB should have gotten their head around to look for the ball, Sylve was really bad about it last year, but this was NOT one of them. Marlon's PI earlier in the game in the end zone was. Its an experience thing, you are talking about a bunch of freshman and sophomores back there in coverage. Look at Cyrus, he has NO problem getting his head around to make a play on the ball. It will come for Minkah, Marlon, etc. with time and experience.

 

[psychojoe]

Bottom line, Kelly made a terrible football play, especially in the game situation that existed at that time. He should have taken the sack. The fact that a miracle happened and he got a td instead of a pick 6 doesn't change the fact that it was a bad play. Ditto later in the game when he was going down and through physical strength was able to get an underhand toss off forward in what I originally thought was a strip. He got away with that one as well, but it sure looked like going down with the ball secured was the best choice he had. It is only with that 50/50 hindsight that you say those were good plays by him.

 

[Tidestalker]

You are being absolutely ridiculous. There is no way to plan or prevent that type of thing. Minkah was coming from halfway across the field and was trying to make sure the man didn't catch the pass. Now if Minkah and the other DB (can't for the life of me remember if it was Cyrus or Marlon covering him) BOTH went for the ball and ended up causing the ball to get tipped up anyway you would be whining about that.

No. No, I wouldn't be. That hypothetical situation you've made up is ridiculous, not my explanation.

 

[BamaFan334]

The Georgia-Auburn play was bad DB play. This was just luck at its finest. I hope all the Ole Miss players bought lottery tickets last night, because they had it all last night.

 

[JoshB]

No. No, I wouldn't be. That hypothetical situation you've made up is ridiculous, not my explanation.

How is it ridiculous? Two players both going for the interception at the same time causing the ball to be tipped in the air, you've never seen that? Must have not seen much football then...

 

[Tidestalker]

How is it ridiculous? Two players both going for the interception at the same time causing the ball to be tipped in the air, you've never seen that? Must have not seen much football then...

No... The fact that you're making up my response to a hypothetical situation is what's ridiculous. Just stop.

 

[JoshB]

No... The fact that you're making up my response to a hypothetical situation is what's ridiculous. Just stop.

I made a hypothetical to show how asinine your complaint was.

 

[Tidestalker]

I made a hypothetical to show how asinine your complaint was.

Not only did you make up a hypothetical situation, then you made up a response for me.

Maybe that works in make believe land where yards and plays don't count because you don't want them to, but in a discussion about facts and reality your imagination is not so valuable.

 

[Killer Instinct]

That ball was up for grabs. It was in the air for an eternity as it was a lob. Why DIDN'T our DB's try and high point it? Why are we trying to make sure the WR doesn't catch it? That ball is anyone's. Want to make sure he doesn't catch it? Catch it yourself!! I'm not blaming the DB's for a bad play. I'm blaming the coaches because even in junior high, you're taught that a ball like that is just as much the defense's ball as the offense's and you can go get it. That's not on Minkah or the other DB, that's on the coaches. That is a fundamental drill DB's run at every decent high school in the country. High pass, go up and get it at it's highest point. Variation: if it's a end game Hail Mary, knock it down. If you haven't seen that before, you didn't play organized football. Yes, it was shithouse luck, but we allow the shithouse luck by not playing sound football. It's not youth or experience, it's fundamental football.

 

[planomateo]

LOL. Funny analysis.

Chad Kelly's touchdown pass to Quincy Adeboyejo worked pretty much like Hugh Freeze drew it up.

 

[UAgrad93]

That ball was up for grabs. It was in the air for an eternity as it was a lob. Why DIDN'T our DB's try and high point it? Why are we trying to make sure the WR doesn't catch it? That ball is anyone's. Want to make sure he doesn't catch it? Catch it yourself!! I'm not blaming the DB's for a bad play. I'm blaming the coaches because even in junior high, you're taught that a ball like that is just as much the defense's ball as the offense's and you can go get it. That's not on Minkah or the other DB, that's on the coaches. That is a fundamental drill DB's run at every decent high school in the country. High pass, go up and get it at it's highest point. Variation: if it's a end game Hail Mary, knock it down. If you haven't seen that before, you didn't play organized football. Yes, it was shithouse luck, but we allow the shithouse luck by not playing sound football. It's not youth or experience, it's fundamental football.

5'9" Cyrus Jones going against 6'3" Laquon Tredwell on that pass, both leap. At Cyrus highest point, he is STILL going to come up 5-6" short!! Cyrus came off of Alphabet WR that caught the ball to contest Tredwell. Minka was peeking in and then turned to hall ass so as to not get beat! Cyrus deflected the pass and Minka took out Tredwell, in the process, the DAMN ball deflected off of Minka's helmet. It was pure damn luck and nothing else!! STOP BITCHING ABOUT 1 FLUKE PLAY!! They work on "high pointing" every damn day in practice.