🌎 The deportations: This headline left me scratching my brain. It's literally ... left me speechless.

[TerryP]

This is just, stupid.

 

[alabama mike]

Over 1,000 on Sunday and less than half serious offenders per NewsMax at 5 pm est.

 

[TerryP]

Over 1,000 on Sunday and less than half serious offenders per NewsMax at 5 pm est.

How was that defined? Violent vs non-violent charges?

 

[musso]

I’ve longed wished that our government would address the demand side, rather than the supply side of many problems, mass immigration being among them. For a century-plus now, it’s been a combination of domestic drug prohibition laws, trade agreements, and foreign interventions throughout Latin America which have given us unsustainable levels of migrants fleeing their destabilized communities. Rather than ending the causes of this phenomenon, we keep going in the direction of more government force (eg militarized borders, deportations, separating families, etc.).

That said, we must reaffirm common sense in the midst of globalist narratives forced upon us by internationalists. Common sense tells us that we can’t preserve a sense of community without also preserving barriers to entry, and we can’t protect the right of voluntary association without the ability to refuse membership. Without enforceable borders countries are not sovereign and belong to human traffickers rather than to citizens.

 

[64Tide]

I’ve longed wished that our government would address the demand side, rather than the supply side of many problems, mass immigration being among them. For a century-plus now, it’s been a combination of domestic drug prohibition laws, trade agreements, and foreign interventions throughout Latin America which have given us unsustainable levels of migrants fleeing their destabilized communities. Rather than ending the causes of this phenomenon, we keep going in the direction of more government force (eg militarized borders, deportations, separating families, etc.).

That said, we must reaffirm common sense in the midst of globalist narratives forced upon us by internationalists. Common sense tells us that we can’t preserve a sense of community without also preserving barriers to entry, and we can’t protect the right of voluntary association without the ability to refuse membership. Without enforceable borders countries are not sovereign and belong to human traffickers rather than to citizens.

The goal of the prior administration per their overlords.

 

[musso]

The goal of the prior administration per their overlords.

Demographic reengineering has been a bipartisan project, predating the Biden Admin. The agendas of the billionaire class operate in decades, not in 4 year terms. One party serves as good cop, the other party as bad cop, both working together to move the Overton Window of public opinion towards a determined goal: thesis —> antithesis —> synthesis. Watch how “America First” Musk sells Americans on an equivalent to China’s “Everything app.” Watch how Trump addresses the immigration issue by selling Red America on something similar to what vaccine passports were going to do. I’m old enough to remember biometrics being proposed in Congress as far back as the 90’s. The “solutions” are predetermined; the timing of implementation all depends on the creation of a persuasive pretext.

 

[musso]

Moreover, I remember a decade or so ago, pundits on CNBC, Bloomberg, FoxBus, etc. were floating proposals for a new “North American Union” currency. Now we have Trump proposing to annex Canada and Greenland. So essentially we have the same policy being resold with a MAGA bow on it. This is how the game works.

 

[24and7]

The MOCKINGBIRD mainstream media is the biggest enemy of the American people..

 

[OldPlayer]

How was that defined? Violent vs non-violent charges?

So a muderer/rapist/drug trafficker is arrested and deported. Their spouse, also guilty of illegal entry, is also deported. One violent crime and one not.

 

[musso]

One violent crime and one not.

How is an uninvited entry and unwelcome penetration not also violent?

 

[Nothing_But_A_Winner00]

How is an uninvited entry and unwelcome penetration not also violent?

This is it for me. From there, put it in a pivot table and start with the worst.

 

[alabama mike]

How was that defined? Violent vs non-violent charges?

Just non-violent. The small number was on violent offenders. Keep those planes fueled up.

 

[OldPlayer]

How is an uninvited entry and unwelcome penetration not also violent?

Two categories. 1. Serious crime (rape, murder, drug trafficking); and 2. Illegal entry. Both are crimes. Deport the serious offender and their spouse. Most illegal entrants have just walked across the border. No violence. Still a crime.

 

[24and7]

Two categories. 1. Serious crime (rape, murder, drug trafficking); and 2. Illegal entry. Both are crimes. Deport the serious offender and their spouse. Most illegal entrants have just walked across the border. No violence. Still a crime.

Murder, Rape 1st or fentanyl trafficking should be automatic death penalty offenses… fentanyl should be declared a weapon of mass destruction…

 

[TerryP]

fentanyl should be declared a weapon of mass destruction…

Juxtapose this thought versus the benefits found with fentanyl in medicine. For what it's worth, this isn't a random thought. I can speak, with first hand experience, on its benefits...very recently, in fact.

Quality of life versus someone getting a buzz...HUGE col found between the two "highs."

 

[24and7]

Juxtapose this thought versus the benefits found with fentanyl in medicine. For what it's worth, this isn't a random thought. I can speak, with first hand experience, on its benefits...very recently, in fact.

Quality of life versus someone getting a buzz...HUGE col found between the two "highs."

Fentanyl has to be properly controlled in medicine… but a lot of these traffickers are bringing in fentanyl to simply kill large numbers of people… all it takes is one dose…
Believe it or not I’m fully for the use of CBD and medicinal THC… I have a friend that got screwed up severely on opioids… he says the only way he can kick that habit is to be given marijuana… as long as he smokes marijuana he will not go out looking for a dealer for the hard stuff..Plus THC makes him more mellow and trustworthy… The latter makes him violent and a thief..

 

[musso]

Most illegal entrants have just walked across the border. No violence. Still a crime.

I’m possibly being pedantic here, but nevertheless I think it’s a worthwhile point to make. In most cases, both pro and anti-immigration camps miss the following subtle points, too often at the risk of calling the other side derogatory names.

Violations of any boundary are, at a minimum, not peaceful actions. Now admittedly there’s a meaningful difference between trespassing and destroying property and persons. The latter is obviously more violent than the former. But we must admit that unwelcome and uninvited guests are inherently a threat in every context, regardless of their motives. We concede this all the time when it’s trespassers onto our property or into our homes. In many, if not, most states you’re allowed to kill trespassers and home invaders. Why? Because you cannot assume that uninvited visitors of your home or property have peaceful intent, especially if their speech and nonverbal behavior are unfamiliar. So I’ll concede that the incidence of illegal immigration, by itself, may not destroy material goods. However there are other immaterial goods just as important that are injured. The incidence of unwelcome, uninvited, and unannounced violators of boundaries does not promote trust and peace in our communities, especially when said invaders have pledged no allegiance to our community’s standards, values and customs and have impaired abilities to communicate trustworthiness to others around them. If we are allowed to kill without hesitation invaders of our homes and properties, then we must also be allowed, at least, to gently and kindly deport the invaders of our commons too.

But like I said earlier, we must turn off the magnet of mass immigration by reforming the policies that create flight from other countries. Our policies ought to promote stable and flourishing communities here, first and foremost, but also abroad too rather than regime changes, sanctions, and autocratic rulers beholden to Wall St. There is no deportation policy good enough to deal with limitless numbers of migrants fleeing their failed and crumbling countries.

 

[TerryP]

As I politely usher her out the front door this morning—beautiful Honduras lady—it dawns on me how true this statement is: Immigrants will do things most American women don't want to do.

 

[musso]

I trust she was either invited beforehand or was otherwise halted and identified at the entrance of your home before being expressly welcomed and ushered inside to occupy your dwelling space. Vastly different from what’s happening at the border.

 

[OldPlayer]

As I politely usher her out the front door this morning—beautiful Honduras lady—it dawns on me how true this statement is: Immigrants will do things most American women don't want to do.

. . . at a cheaper cost.