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[TerryP]

There are several different aspects of the proposed bill I don't like. If I were sitting in Washington, I'd have voted against the bill. No second thoughts.

There is one thing about that proposal that just doesn't make sense to me given what we've been told.

One of the components of the bill is they would stop border crossings, every day, when they reach the 5000 limit. If I understand this correctly, #4999 and #5000 can get in, but #5001 is stopped (until tomorrow.)

If they have the ability to stop at 5000 doesn't that mean they have the ability to stop at 1?

 

[ElephantStomp]

Your friends strength is admirable. I know somebody that was a result of rape and his Mom treated him like shit, treated him like less than, like an outcast, while treating her other son that wasn’t a result of an awful situation like a charm.

Ok, I can respect your opinion on that, although I disagree with the free will and god thing. Let me ask it this way, do you think there should be an exemption in the case of rape, sexual assault, etc or a total ban?

 

[TerryP]

Ok, I can respect your opinion on that, although I disagree with the free will and god thing. Let me ask it this way, do you think there should be an exemption in the case of rape, sexual assault, etc or a total ban?

How do you disagree with free will? You exercise it every day.

An exemption from what? The ability to exercise free will? While I have my opinions, I have no right to say what anyone else should do. For lack of a better way to put this, "that's your mistake to make."

 

[ElephantStomp]

How do you disagree with free will? You exercise it every day.

An exemption from what? The ability to exercise free will? While I have my opinions, I have no right to say what anyone else should do. For lack of a better way to put this, "that's your mistake to make."

“I have my opinions, I have no right to say” is code for I don’t want to give my opinion.

 

[It Takes Eleven]

“I have my opinions, I have no right to say” is code for I don’t want to give my opinion.

Hilarious coming from a guy who decides when he won't respond, with a misleading partial quote to boot.

 

[TerryP]

“I have my opinions, I have no right to say” is code for I don’t want to give my opinion.

Wait a second. You've been pointing to my opinions in this thread and now choose to say "I don't want to give my opinion?" How does that work?

The one thing you can not say is I have not been explicitly clear on my opinions. If you are looking for those opinions they are found under common sense.

 

[ElephantStomp]

Wait a second. You've been pointing to my opinions in this thread and now choose to say "I don't want to give my opinion?" How does that work?

The one thing you can not say is I have not been explicitly clear on my opinions. If you are looking for those opinions they are found under common sense.

I asked you a pretty simple question and you didn’t answer. I asked “do you think there should be an exemption for rape, sexual assault, etc or a total ban? So, common sense would say you believe there should be, but you’ve not answered that

 

[ElephantStomp]

How do you disagree with free will? You exercise it every day.

An exemption from what? The ability to exercise free will? While I have my opinions, I have no right to say what anyone else should do. For lack of a better way to put this, "that's your mistake to make."

I disagree with the free will in the god gave it to us context

 

[TerryP]

I disagree with the free will in the god gave it to us context

How? Do you make decisions based on some preordained basis?

For a hill to die on saying free will is questionable...?

 

[TerryP]

I asked you a pretty simple question and you didn’t answer. I asked “do you think there should be an exemption for rape, sexual assault, etc or a total ban? So, common sense would say you believe there should be, but you’ve not answered that

I've answered this. Quite clearly.

 

[ElephantStomp]

I've answered this. Quite clearly.

Well then answer it for me again because I missed then. It’s a pretty easy answer yes you do think there should be or no a total ban

 

[ElephantStomp]

How? Do you make decisions based on some preordained basis?

For a hill to die on saying free will is questionable...?

This isn’t some hill I’m going to die on. As I said I don’t agree with the premise god gave us free will, obviously we have free will

 

[TerryP]

Well then answer it for me again because I missed then. It’s a pretty easy answer yes you do think there should be or no a total ban

You quoted, or misquoted, my post. I don't have a right to say what another does in a situation like that. As I said, I've seen both sides.

 

[TerryP]

This isn’t some hill I’m going to die on. As I said I don’t agree with the premise god gave us free will, obviously we have free will

You realize you are contradicting yourself in the same sentence?

Who gives us free will if it isn't God given?

 

[ElephantStomp]

You quoted, or misquoted, my post. I don't have a right to say what another does in a situation like that. As I said, I've seen both sides.

Ok, so yes you’re against a total ban?

 

[ElephantStomp]

You realize you are contradicting yourself in the same sentence?

Who gives us free will if it isn't God given?

Nobody gives it to us. As I’ve said many times I don’t believe in any god

 

[TerryP]

Ok, so yes you’re against a total ban?

How the hell does this question come up? When have I ever sided, or suggested, that's where I stood on this issue? I smoke REALLY good weed, but my god, where are you getting your stuff from?

 

[TerryP]

Nobody gives it to us. As I’ve said many times I don’t believe in any god

"that's your mistake to make."

 

[ElephantStomp]

How the hell does this question come up? When have I ever sided, or suggested, that's where I stood on this issue? I smoke REALLY good weed, but my god, where are you getting your stuff from?

I’ve not said that’s where you fall, I’m asking

 

[TerryP]

I’ve not said that’s where you fall, I’m asking

I've not suggested, implied, even hinted at support of the idea for a complete ban. If you were trying to be audacious with the question, I might tip my hat for it being unique. That's not where I'm leaning right now.

 

[24and7]

More obvious signs of that a black Swan event will happen before the election..Be well armed at all times.