🏈 SUTTLES: SEC declines to comment on controversial play

[Bamabww]

Surprise! Not really.
The SEC declined to comment on the Bradley Sylve/Quan Bray play of a simultaneous reception. Also declined to make SEC Coordinator of Officials Steve Shaw available.

https://alabama.rivals.com/showmsg.asp?fid=427&tid=207242487&mid=207242487&sid=885&style=2

 

[252BAMA]

Why didn't Saban know the rule? Their error could have been corrected prior to the next play.

 

[mhardiman]

I think the link is behind the pay wall. So what controversial call? a tie is suppose to go to the receiver; is there more to the rule?

 

[bamafan9201]

There were two of these, the first one was obviously a tie or Williams' ball which was obvious to everyone. They are referring to the 2nd pass that was caught by Sylve and then Bray put his hands on it after Sylve had possession. In this case, it should've been ruled an interception more than likely. Though they did review it and didn't believe it was an interception still. Not sure how they missed it though, Sylve had possession for a second before Bray had two hands on the ball, either way..it was a close call and I don't think anyone's going to get into trouble over the call.

 

[Bamabww]

I think the link is behind the pay wall. So what controversial call? a tie is suppose to go to the receiver; is there more to the rule?

I heard a discussion today that said with a simultaneous reception, the first player to come down in bounds with the ball is awarded the catch / interception. What the OP says is all the link had info wise. The question was asked during the SEC teleconference today previewing the SEC CG and they declined to comment or allow any further explanation.

I really don't know what the rule says but found the different opinions interesting.

 

[BamaCore]

From what I understand when two players have simultaneous possession while in mid air the player that touches the ground first is credited with the catch. With that being the case it should have been ruled an interception. Regardless I still think it was very clear that Sylve had sole possession of the ball. It was a completely awful call and review which ever way you slice it.

 

[252BAMA]

http://www.foxsports.com/college-foo...pereira-112914


Let’s look at the NCAA Rule Book, Part 2, under "interpretations'' for the answer. Under the Completed Pass, Article 6, rule 7-3-6, section 2: Two opposing players receive a legal forward pass while both are off the ground, and one payer returns to the ground inbounds before the other. Ruling: No simultaneous catch. The legal forward pass is completed or intercepted by the player who first returned to the ground.

 

[252BAMA]

There were two of these, the first one was obviously a tie or Williams' ball which was obvious to everyone. They are referring to the 2nd pass that was caught by Sylve and then Bray put his hands on it after Sylve had possession. In this case, it should've been ruled an interception more than likely. Though they did review it and didn't believe it was an interception still. Not sure how they missed it though, Sylve had possession for a second before Bray had two hands on the ball, either way..it was a close call and I don't think anyone's going to get into trouble over the call.

It was announced as a simultaneous catch with the reception belonging to the offense. That is correct ONLY if both players were on the ground when the catch was made. They were not.

And my contention is that Saban should have told them what I just said if he knew the rule.

 

[planomateo]

SEC...best officials in the business.

:sarc:

 

[UAgrad93]

Officiating is getting to be the WORST in the history of the sport. I know these plays happen at breakneck speed with 22 massive bodies slamming into one another, BUT Damn!!! Learn the damn rules!!! I have seen jr. high officials call better games.

 

[Crimson&WhiteGecko]

Hell there was one Ref saying incomplete, out of bounds, & another comes in and says catch. I thought in the very least that it was incomplete b/c AU receiver didn't even have close control until he was out of bounds.

 

[psychojoe]

I don't get why the replay officials did not get it right. Sylve was the one who made it a catch, as he came down with one foot in bounds.

http://www.foxsports.com/college-foo...pereira-112914


Let’s look at the NCAA Rule Book, Part 2, under "interpretations'' for the answer. Under the Completed Pass, Article 6, rule 7-3-6, section 2: Two opposing players receive a legal forward pass while both are off the ground, and one payer returns to the ground inbounds before the other. Ruling: No simultaneous catch. The legal forward pass is completed or intercepted by the player who first returned to the ground.

You might forgive the guys on the field, but the replay official quite apparently did not know this rule. I confess that I did not either.

 

[rick4bama]

@psychojoe I think that if you on the field to make sure that the game is played fair, you should knoe all the rules.

 

[We All Bleed Crimson]

Officiating is getting to be the WORST in the history of the sport. I know these plays happen at breakneck speed with 22 massive bodies slamming into one another, BUT Damn!!! Learn the damn rules!!!

I have to agree with you on this. I watched the Clemson-SC game earlier in the day and there was some screwed up calls in that one also. Even after reviews, they sometimes come away with the wrong call. I wonder if they don't see the angles we do on the TV. (I think they do have access to them.)

 

[mhardiman]

I could be wrong, but if I remember right wasn't Sylve's first foot to come down land out of bounds, which per the rules stated above should have been ruled an incomplete pass?

 

[gumboman]

Complete Pass
ARTICLE 6. Any forward pass is complete when caught by a player of the
passing team who is inbounds, and the ball continues in play unless completed
in the opponent’s end zone or the pass has been caught simultaneously by
opposing players. If a forward pass is caught simultaneously by opposing
players inbounds, the ball becomes dead and belongs to the passing team (Rules
2-4-3 and 2-4-4) (A.R. 2-4-3-III and A.R. 7-3-6-I-VIII).

 

[252BAMA]

I could be wrong, but if I remember right wasn't Sylve's first foot to come down land out of bounds, which per the rules stated above should have been ruled an incomplete pass?

He came down inbounds, first. Interception.

 

[252BAMA]

Complete Pass
ARTICLE 6. Any forward pass is complete when caught by a player of the
passing team who is inbounds, and the ball continues in play unless completed
in the opponent’s end zone or the pass has been caught simultaneously by
opposing players. If a forward pass is caught simultaneously by opposing
players inbounds, the ball becomes dead and belongs to the passing team (Rules
2-4-3 and 2-4-4) (A.R. 2-4-3-III and A.R. 7-3-6-I-VIII).

And NOW, the rest of the story.

Let’s look at the NCAA Rule Book, Part 2, under "interpretations'' for the answer. Under the Completed Pass, Article 6, rule 7-3-6, section 2: Two opposing players receive a legal forward pass while both are off the ground, and one payer returns to the ground inbounds before the other. Ruling: No simultaneous catch. The legal forward pass is completed or intercepted by the player who first returned to the ground.

 

[rick4bama]

We can talk about this till the cows come home, and it doesn't matter it overwith.

 

[alabama mike]

Thank goodness the play did not come back to haunt us after the fact.