🏈 Special Teams

[Tidestalker]

Anyone watching this Arky game from last year? My goodness the receiving units were horrendous. I forgot what a headache that was last year. That Ole Miss/Arky period was awful. Whenever Bobby Williams comes on the TV my blood pressure rises. Obviously Christion Jones was freaking disaster, so I'm very excited to see the next chapter.

That being said, JK was a beast. Could he be the first punter to leave early for the draft?? If he does what he did last year, or improves the next 2 seasons, I don't see why not. Saban mentioned Tony Brown, Rob Foster, Minkah Fitz, and even Shawn Burgess Becker as possible S/T standouts.

And exactly how fucked are we at kicker? Boz already mentioning issues with Griffith... If he struggles early, what direction does that go? I was thinking we had that kid Adrien Lamonthe from Mexico. I know Saban doesn't want to mess up a good thing with JK Scott, but he was a damn fine kicker in high school.

Thoughts?

RTR

 

[hughMyronCuz]

Unless something jurastic happens, we will stick with Griffith. I literally can't breathe when he is lining up a kick and his shoulders won't stop shrugging. He looks so tight and worried, (I would be too). Gunner stepped in for Griffith for MSU last year and was serviceable. I think we are just gonna survive until Pineiro gets here.

That being said, I'm not sure why Bobby Williams still has a job.

 

[bcracker]

Everytime Griffin kicked last year my wife left the room.

 

[Woody4daTide]

I've got a good feeling about Cyrus, Black and Charlot this year.

 

[Woody4daTide]

Also, re watching the game just proves to me how shitty Vogler was.

 

[Tidestalker]

Also, re watching the game just proves to me how shitty Vogler was.

And Kiffin's play calling... :notall:

 

[OldPlayer]

Unless the team is the Oakland Raiders, I don't see anyone using a first or second round pick on a kicker. Scott may leave early, but it won't benefit him much.

Griffith's issue wasn't his ability, it was his health. I've heard that he he back surgery in the offseason to fix some things. If he stays healthy, we'll be okay.

 

[Heisenberg]

Griffith's issue wasn't his ability, it was his health.

I'm going to call bullshit on this. He might not have been perfectly healthy but I don't believe for a second the issue wasn't mostly mental.

 

[2Stater]

Everytime Griffin kicked last year my wife left the room.

Hmm...........
Ever thought about running it on a loop?

 

[rueben]

Hmm...........
Ever thought about running it on a loop?

:clap::hurray::clap:
2Stater FTW!!!

 

[rueben]

I'm going to call bullshit on this. He might not have been perfectly healthy but I don't believe for a second the issue wasn't mostly mental.

You can call WTF ever you want. Griffin had some major physical health issues last year. There were some issues in scrimmage, and maybe the physical health issues caused some mental issues. Like J. Fowler not running the same after making a full physical recovery from his knee injury. But, trust me, our kicker was in great physical pain last year.

 

[Woody4daTide]

Unless the team is the Oakland Raiders, I don't see anyone using a first or second round pick on a kicker. Scott may leave early, but it won't benefit him much.

Griffith's issue wasn't his ability, it was his health. I've heard that he he back surgery in the offseason to fix some things. If he stays healthy, we'll be okay.

The benefit would be getting paid.

 

[Woody4daTide]

And Kiffin's play calling... :notall:

Yep. But we weren't running the ball well early. His mistake was abandoning it. Should have been about 5 designed qb runs.

 

[CrimsonBoz]

Griff issue at this point is the mental part. He was in alot of pain kicking before. His kicking motion changed now he is still doing it and still missing kicks. He needs a restart to day 1.

 

[MissingRing]

I note a strange paradox in Nick Saban's handling of place kickers vs. his approach to other player types. Saban is all about competition, all of the time, at every position, and not just during the pre-season but throughout the season. I can't imagine his allowing, for example, a running back or a wide receiver (or any other category of player really) to stay on the field if, for any reason (psychological or physical), that player was not ready and able to perform to a high standard. Yet Adam Griffith - and Cade Foster before him - have been allowed to continue kicking when their performance was obviously being hampered by something, in Griffith's case a stress fracture. Why not allow Gunner Raborn to kick? Why not J.K. Scott for that matter? According to http://kohlskicking.com/profile/jk-scott/5280/, J.K. Scott had the same 5 star rating as a kicker on Kohl's scale as he was rated for punting. I don't get it.

 

[OldPlayer]

I note a strange paradox in Nick Saban's handling of place kickers vs. his approach to other player types. Saban is all about competition, all of the time, at every position, and not just during the pre-season but throughout the season. I can't imagine his allowing, for example, a running back or a wide receiver (or any other category of player really) to stay on the field if, for any reason (psychological or physical), that player was not ready and able to perform to a high standard. Yet Adam Griffith - and Cade Foster before him - have been allowed to continue kicking when their performance was obviously being hampered by something, in Griffith's case a stress fracture. Why not allow Gunner Raborn to kick? Why not J.K. Scott for that matter? According to http://kohlskicking.com/profile/jk-scott/5280/, J.K. Scott had the same 5 star rating as a kicker on Kohl's scale as he was rated for punting. I don't get it.

Scott did kick some last year.

 

[OldPlayer]

The benefit would be getting paid.

But his draft level won't change much. How many kickers and punters were drafted in 2015? He's not in a position where he's might be injured due to a hit, so he'd be wise to get his degree before he left. Granted he can do that in three years, and if he does, I say go.

 

[Woody4daTide]

But his draft level won't change much. How many kickers and punters were drafted in 2015? He's not in a position where he's might be injured due to a hit, so he'd be wise to get his degree before he left. Granted he can do that in three years, and if he does, I say go.

It could go down with a bad fourth year(doubtful) or an injury.

 

[T&B]

Unless something jurastic happens.

I apologize for bringing attention to your grammatical error, but I cant help but think about the drastic improvement watching two dinosaurs fight at half-time would be over watching the band play.

No flames here Mr. Myron; I'm just having a lil fun. :beers/cheers:

 

[hughMyronCuz]

I apologize for bringing attention to your grammatical error, but I cant help but think about the drastic improvement watching two dinosaurs fight at half-time would be over watching the band play.

No flames here Mr. Myron; I'm just having a lil fun. :beers/cheers:

That's that Alabama education at work. Lol