🏈 Some observatinos and comments heading into the UT game...

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For discussion, here are some observations and comments as we get ready to head up to Knoxville for our last game before the bye week.

1. Forget about the BCS - we need to laser focus on each opponent each week and ONLY each opponent each week. There is nothing we can do about the BCS, but we do control our destiny for the SECCG - THAT should be our sell-out goal. The rest will take care of itself.

2. Calling out the D for a fiery on-field leader - This year's D has alot of talent but alot of youth. Our guys played alot better this week than last, but was still not dominant. However, we have shown flashes of dominance this year - just not sustained. Which upperclassman starter will step up and take on the leadership role: Marcel, Dont'a, Mark? The leadership role was thrust upon Rolando and he stepped up and handled it. We need a field general and motivator on D. who will it be?

3. Calling out the O-line which is getting manhandled - for three games in a row now, we have not had a 100 yard rusher. For two games in a row, GMac has had a high number of sacks (though it must be said that many of those were his own fault). Our O-Line has always taken pride in bullying the opponent and playing ultra-physical. Again, we have had that this season but not recently. Who will step up in practice and in the weight room and challenge his teammates to get back to that level of performance? Used to be we didn't care if they stacked the box, we ram it down their throats anyway. We have the ability to be that way again. Do we have the drive and motivation? Football is an emotional game. Bear won with smaller guys that had bigger hearts. We have big guys... How big are their hearts on game day? They have to CHOOSE to dominate.

4. Our QB, the mid-range passing game, and the TE - Our QB is shell-shocked as a result of getting pounded and getting sacked. Some of this is his own fault for being indecisive. GMac needs to play faster in all areas: command that huddle and get the O in and out and to the LOS, tempo, tempo, tempo; take the snap and fire that pass, tempo, tempo, tempo; make your read and make a decision, tempo, tempo, tempo; let your WRs make a play on the ball, feel the pressure, run when you need, throw it away when you need. What has happened to the mid-range passing game and the TE? If they are stacking the box to stop the run, then a swing or screen won't do much better. Where are our 10-15 yard routes and where is the TE? If Julio is going to be hurt so much, let's get in some of our young and BIG WRs and give them a shot to make plays.

5. Open up the playbook; on offense AND defense - the restricted, conservative play selections of the last three weeks are obviously not going to cut it the rest of the season. Why are we running mostly the same vanilla stuff over and over again. Obviously, opposing defenses know how to defend our basic offense now. If McElwain is afraid to let GMac light it up, then give AJ two or three series a game to see what he can do with some downfield strikes. Perhaps even the threat of that - when AJ is put in the game it should be obvious - will open up the running game as defenses prepare for the long ball. This allows us to get the ball in the hands of our play-makers, Mark and Trent. IF Mark and Trent can effectively share the load, why can't AJ get a few series a game as well? On defense, we have injuries and youth to deal with and opposing offenses are moving the ball. Why stay conservative with the "bend don't break" philosophy - that works with a seasoned veteran team. When you have youth, you downplay their lack of experience by letting them be aggressive. Rather than having them play on their heels, turn them loose and let them blitz and attack; let them take chances on big plays - it's the best way to optimize youth.

6. Calling out Fast and Furious - as much as we all love Mark and Trent, the truth is they have looked tired and slow the last two weeks. Trent's swing pass notwithstanding, they have been going down easier and slower to hit holes the last two to three weeks. Granted alot of this is on the O-line and the play calling and the lack of creativity to get Mark and Trent to the second level where they can make people miss, but Mark and Trent know it themselves - they could both be playing better. Suck it up for one more week and sell yourselves out for this game and this game only. Then you get the bye.

7. Calling out our Coordinators - calling and scheming games "to not lose" as opposed "to win" will backfire eventually. I think everyone knows what I mean. Our playcalling has put our guys on their heals on both sides of the ball - they are calling games to minimize mistakes and to avoid big plays and "to not lose." All this does is restrict our very strenghts; aggression, size, speed, and power. How many times a game are our O-Line and D-Line going backwards for passing/coverage? Turn our guys loose and call the game to take chances, promote aggression and moving forward, and selling out to win! My impression of the Ole Miss game is that we learned little from the South Carolina loss in this regard - that is, that our Coordinators are still calling games to try to minimize mistakes and big plays. This doesn't work with a young team, it only crushes the one thing that can overcome inexperience - aggression. Turn our guys loose!

I don't expect much difference with UT, but we had better have better execution if we want to win against UT in Neyland. HOWEVER, we HAD BETTER come out of the bye week with open playbooks, aggression, willingness to take chances, and power or this conservative "avoid mistakes," passive, unaggressive football is going to backfire in a big way. And the thing is, it's such an easy fix - just turn them loose guys! Let them be aggressive and use their natural talents. Look at what Auburn did last year and they almost pulled it off - we had a very seasoned veteran team that weathered the storm. We don't anymore. We already have the one loss, and when it comes to LSU and Auburn this year taking risks and being aggressive may result in a loss, but playing "careful" and conservative and trying to avoid mistakes will DEFINITELY result in another loss or two.

Here's to a victory over the Hillbillies next week and getting back to Bama, bullying, power and attacking football after that!

My $0.02.
 
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I'd like to add one to that list: the aggressive attitude of our players on third down. Think about the long third quarter drive by South Carolina. We put them in third and long multiple times and couldn't finish them off. After that drive I knew we were done because they regained the momentum and gave their defense a huge rest.

This example is for comparison purposes only, of course. Watching Auburn on defense, they play poorly overall. But it seems like when they need a big play, they get pumped up and you just know something good is about to happen for them. Interceptions in the Arkansas game, fumbles in the USC game, 3rd down sacks when they really need it. That stadium gets so loud and they just respond. I don't know exactly our defensive 3rd down percentages, but it seems like when we really need a big play on third and long, we just let them get away. In the South Carolina game, it would've put us back in the game. In the Ole Miss game we could've buried them in the second half if we had stopped them on a couple of third down plays. We can just never put the nail in the coffin on third downs, when what we really need is a big, game changing play

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Just remember in order to knock off the orange we will have to penetrate that awesome redzone defense of the Viles!
some people have started calling it the....7-3-3 Redzone!:rofl: They usually don't run this unless they have the game in the bag!:rofl:
 
I can follow you on most of this except for taking GMac out of the game. Yes, he has areas that need fixing but he is not playing bad enough to need to be taken out. Our greatest problem right now is theOLogy which has been beat at the line of scrimmage the last two games and the predictable play calling. When Bama gets in the red zone someone besides Mac. should call the plays.
 
I agree esp. with #6 .Mark and Trent do seem a bit sluggish
and seem to go down easier after the initial tackles being made.
But that being said there bread and butter is reaching the second level and making defensive players ,well for lack of words look stupid.
One play to me put it in a nutshell saturday against Miss.
when we had 3rd. and short and Ingram hit the o-line then broke to the outside and slipped and fell.
As he ran off the field i saw the fustration in his body language
and i dont think it was from falling on the turf.
 
GMac's biggest problem is he won't throw it deep. The plays are called and the WR's are open, but he refuses to throw deep. (This has happened every game and is increasing with each game.) If he returns to his previous form of taking three or four shots a game our run game will improve. (No SEC Def. Co. fears us deep because the QB isn't going to throw the ball deep.) Obviously he's not getting the message and he is being told to take some chances deep. If he doesn't correct this early against TN there's a good chance we'll see AJ. One reason we haven't seen this earlier is GMac is prone to funks if things don't go his way. (Benching him could cause him to check out mentally and we need his A game to be as good as we can be. This will need to be handled carefully. GMac hasn't relished AJ's little playing time.) Another reason is Saban is loyal to his QB if he's not getting him beat and GMac isn't making big mistakes. However, the staff is growing impatient and they understand we desperately need to take the top off the defense to get the box more manageable. (Our O-line is giving him enough time on most occasions, but he's indecisive. We can't run effectively when there are one or two more people in the box than we have blockers.) The downside to playing AJ is he's going to make mistakes, like any young QB, that can get you beat. The upside is he's smart, knows the offense, will sling it enough to keep the box honest, and he's got a rocket laser arm. This week is very very crucial for Greg, this may be his last chance to right himself. The staff knows we cannot beat LSU without a deep threat and an effective run game. LSU is going to man-up, load the box, cover all the short stuff, and dare us to throw deep. We must throw deep to keep their S's out of the box. If Greg doesn't improve quickly Knoxville would be a good place to get AJ's feet wet on the road before heading to Red Stick. We still control our destiny for SECC and our O, especially decisions in the passing game, must improve for us to get to Atl.
 
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I am sure we will see Tennessee load the box and dare us to throw down the field, just as USCe and Ole Miss did. As long as they tackle well when they do this our running game is going to struggle. The answer for this is to hit some passes down the field. That backs the defense up and opens the running game.

Will we do this against the orange? Will we instead be stodgy and predictable on offense and rely on defense and special teams to win for us? We'll see Saturday. Stodgy might work this week, but we'll need offensive productivity against LSU, MSU and the barn.
 
I agree esp. with #6 .Mark and Trent do seem a bit sluggish
and seem to go down easier after the initial tackles being made.
But that being said there bread and butter is reaching the second level and making defensive players ,well for lack of words look stupid.
One play to me put it in a nutshell saturday against Miss.
when we had 3rd. and short and Ingram hit the o-line then broke to the outside and slipped and fell.
As he ran off the field i saw the fustration in his body language
and i dont think it was from falling on the turf.

Agreed - they've been taking a beating and it's starting to show. I wonder if there's any residual impact to Mark's lateral movement, but both of them right now seem more content to bull forward for three or four yards instead of slashing and cutting back. When they are on, they make our O-line look far better than they would look with an average back in the backfield.

RTR,

Tim
 
I have a buddy who insists that Mark Ingram must still be injured and is not running at 100%. I disagree. I think Mark has shown, at times, that he's still 100% physically, but he is getting mentally broken down because so many tacklers have learned to cut his legs out from under him. This is truly the only way to tackle him or Trent. Tackle them up high, and they will carry you down the field with them, or you'll just be thrown off. So, tacklers are getting under our offensive lineman's blocks and sweeping the RB's legs out from under him. As a result, we can't go between the tackles, and we can't get to the outside either. This CONTAINS the running game, and it is now the formula to beat us, as evidenced by Arkansas' effort against our run game, Florida's effort, SC's effort, and Ole Miss' effort. LET ME REPEAT: Tacklers are stopping our backs by cutting their legs out from under them, thus eliminating any rushing to the inside or outside.

So what's left? Well, to get McElroy throwing downfield with any accuracy, these receivers have got to get some space. They aren't. So all that is left, with little running game and no downfield attack, is these 7-8 yard slant patterns and curls/screens. THAT is working. But it's a tough go, because the QB must make do more checking down and read the coverages better. He's doing "ok" at this. Not bad, not great either. Without Richardson's TD the other night, which was one of those short yardage plays, this game would have been in doubt.

HOW DO WE BREAK OUT FOR THE OFFENSE? 2 back set, I believe. I formation with the lead back being an initial blocker, to stop that first tackler from making the leg-cutting tackle. This springs the runner past that LOS where it seems our running plays are dying. When passing out of the I, play action. DEEP play action. This forces those guys crowding the line to re-think that strategy, backing off or spreading out some, which will feed the running game even more. The 1 back set, from shotgun, is basically 11 on 9 offense right now, and we're losing that battle.

Thumbs up to the defense last week!!!! All the pressure on Massoli took him out of that game early, and allowed us to build a lead before they could ever get going. I'm good with that. I think the Head Coach probably liked it too. While I do think that Dareus' current condition warrants having someone else in there, just his presence out there is inspiring to this defense, and he is the de-facto leader. That defense knows it. Mark Barron is doing better as well.
 
Totally agree with with #6. We need Mark and Trent back at full speed for this game against the Viles. I'm sure the Viles are still pissed off about losing to LSU the way they did and I damn sure don't want Alabama to become Dooley's signature win this season! Suck it up fellows and play with all you got before the bye.

As far as McElroy throwing it deep. This all seems to have started since he threw those interceptions in that Arky game. Not sure if he's now scared to chunk it or not, but we indeed need something to loosen up other teams defense a little.

That said, perhaps I'm just a homer, but I think the coaches will get it worked out. We'll see...
 
it seems we have gotten worse (or at least not improved) as the season moves on....and Auburn has gotten better (more so on offense). The Aub's are getting to be like knats, annoying and in your face, every monday morning. At least if we looked dominate i would have some amunition for them. The way things look right now Ole herbstriet may have been right....au may be the team to beat in the west.
 
it seems we have gotten worse (or at least not improved) as the season moves on....and Auburn has gotten better (more so on offense). The Aub's are getting to be like knats, annoying and in your face, every monday morning. At least if we looked dominate i would have some amunition for them. The way things look right now Ole herbstriet may have been right....au may be the team to beat in the west.

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Think of it this way:

USCe had an extra week to prepare just for us (actually more than that since they played Furman before their off week, and Ole Miss had a bye week as well. That gives them time to fix what problems they may have, get some dinged up players healthy and really break down our tendencies on both offense and defense. We've had only the normal game week, which means we prepare for what we've seen them do, but not a lot of practice time to fix problem areas or put in anything new. last year, through this same stretch, we came close to losing to an only moderately good Tennessee team that defended us the same way as USCe and Ole Miss did.

Tennessee isn't even close to as good as they were a year ago, so we should be able to get through that one playing very conservative football even though they too have had an off week to prepare.
 
Please tell me that no matter how many guys stack the box we'll still be able to run vs. UT. Oh well, it was worth a try.

Anyone know anything about their secondary without Eric Berry this year?
 
These are excellent points. I would also like to see some kind of no-huddle offense for a few series a game. Something to unsettle the defense and prevent substitutions. Mixing in a little bit of hurry-up as well (no-huddle and hurry-up are not necessarily the same thing though they can be used together) to knock the defense off balance would help. Our plays are taking too long to develop and we are showing no tempo or rhythm. This gives the opposing D time to see our sets and settle in on their response.

Also, our wildcat is no longer effective because GMac is basically a wasted player lining up wide. The defense does not take him seriously out there. This just gives them an extra player in the box. We should try a zone read with Ingram taking the snap in the backfield with Richardson. The option would be to Richardson. Leave GMac off the field for those plays or find a RB with an arm and maintain a pass option. That's Auburn's whole offense - it's all zone option reads for Newton.

Another thing, our red zone is horrendous with all those FGs. We need to let our taller receivers - yes, even other than Julio who is hurt again - go up for some jump balls on a fade. We are so terrified of making mistakes that we are not even willing to take chances. Find the short DB and throw the fade.

WR separation and space is a matter of will, determination, and crisp route running. Maze is doing fine it seems, but Julio has been hurt - it's time to let the younger guys try to make a name for themselves and FIND THE DANG TE!!

Lastly, back to the AJ issue. My point with him, was by giving him a series or two the D has to take the deep threat more seriously which should in turn open up the run game. If they don't keep the safeties back, let AJ throw the ball - take some chances and quit playing "not to lose." If they keep safeties back, run the ball. Also, FORCE GMac to take some deep shots just to keep the D honest.

We need to stop playing not to lose and start playing to win - in order to do that we need to take chances.


I have a buddy who insists that Mark Ingram must still be injured and is not running at 100%. I disagree. I think Mark has shown, at times, that he's still 100% physically, but he is getting mentally broken down because so many tacklers have learned to cut his legs out from under him. This is truly the only way to tackle him or Trent. Tackle them up high, and they will carry you down the field with them, or you'll just be thrown off. So, tacklers are getting under our offensive lineman's blocks and sweeping the RB's legs out from under him. As a result, we can't go between the tackles, and we can't get to the outside either. This CONTAINS the running game, and it is now the formula to beat us, as evidenced by Arkansas' effort against our run game, Florida's effort, SC's effort, and Ole Miss' effort. LET ME REPEAT: Tacklers are stopping our backs by cutting their legs out from under them, thus eliminating any rushing to the inside or outside.

So what's left? Well, to get McElroy throwing downfield with any accuracy, these receivers have got to get some space. They aren't. So all that is left, with little running game and no downfield attack, is these 7-8 yard slant patterns and curls/screens. THAT is working. But it's a tough go, because the QB must make do more checking down and read the coverages better. He's doing "ok" at this. Not bad, not great either. Without Richardson's TD the other night, which was one of those short yardage plays, this game would have been in doubt.

HOW DO WE BREAK OUT FOR THE OFFENSE? 2 back set, I believe. I formation with the lead back being an initial blocker, to stop that first tackler from making the leg-cutting tackle. This springs the runner past that LOS where it seems our running plays are dying. When passing out of the I, play action. DEEP play action. This forces those guys crowding the line to re-think that strategy, backing off or spreading out some, which will feed the running game even more. The 1 back set, from shotgun, is basically 11 on 9 offense right now, and we're losing that battle.

Thumbs up to the defense last week!!!! All the pressure on Massoli took him out of that game early, and allowed us to build a lead before they could ever get going. I'm good with that. I think the Head Coach probably liked it too. While I do think that Dareus' current condition warrants having someone else in there, just his presence out there is inspiring to this defense, and he is the de-facto leader. That defense knows it. Mark Barron is doing better as well.
 
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