🏈 So What!

Kirk Van de Graaff

Kirk Van de Graaff

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Over the years of my life there has been one thing constant, my love for Alabama Football. The rewards have been paid off two fold. I cant remember not having Alabama football in my life, nor do I want to. It is one of those things that I will go to my grave with, and even after I am gone I will be buried with something of Alabama on me. All through my life I have been accused of being a little overboard on my fanatical approach to all things Alabama Crimson Tide. My answer... So What!.

As I read through all the comments from different school fans over this "Alabama doesn't deserve to be in this game" "They didn't even win their conference" "They had their chance" "OSU has won more quality games than Alabama" and "LSU already beat them once, why play this boring game again?" Fact is, we are hated because we are relevant and it seems like everyone outside of Bama fans forget one thing..... Through the season the two best teams in the country are LSU and Alabama. If anyone argues that, they didn't watch college football at all this year. Playing in the SEC is a gauntlet and what LSU and Bama for that matter has done this year is nothing short of being a great football team. With only one determining factor left, winner takes all..... Not according to all the analysis from outside. According to them if Bama barely beats LSU then LSU deserves to share the title. I mean come on college fans, Bama earned this, but you would rather give it to some other team that didn't?

Actually, I like this position we are in as a whole. Alabama football is relevant and will always be relevant, and being in this position year in and year out, like now, brings nothing more than a big fat grin on my face. The big question here is... Are Bama fans delusional in their approach to Crimson Tide Football? With a demanding response... HELL NO! We expect a team that plays Alabama Football, and we have been honed to do so. 13 national championships, or whatever the amount is according to other fans, own the record in bowl appearances (58) and so forth and so on. The nation in a whole is against Alabama right now, basically Alabama is playing for more than a National Championship to most, they are playing for respect. In my mind, they have already earned that, and it is amazing to me that they have to "prove" they "deserve" a 14th NC.

Face it OSU and every other team out there this year, Bama deserves this title shot, and I believe they will show the Nation come Monday night. So in this Alabama fans perspective, I say to the rest of the nation of college football... Roll Tide and So what!. So what that you don't think Alabama deserves this, So what that you think all Bama fans are delusional, So what that each fan base thinks they should hand pick a team to play for a championship (OSU), So what that even when Alabama leads the nation on Defense and pretty much made every team they have played look like patsies, that they have to "Prove" they deserve the title. So what OSU beat Stanford, you got beat by Iowa State, and that's why you are not in the title game, beat them, there would be no talk about deserving. So what that everyone outside of Bama hates us. So what that you have a player nicknamed "Honey Badger", and So what about other bowl games scoreboards that are showing 70-42.

I will take my Alabama Crimson Tide on a losing day before I would give a rats behind about any other team or why so and so team doesn't deserve this. Make a plus one and I guarantee the Title game would be the same, the top 2 teams playing for a NC.(LSU,Alabama)

Roll Tide Roll!!!!
 
By my watch, it's almost 4:20 there...sober up a bit in a few minutes. Or, become REALLY...

BTW, I agree with you on the Plus-1 gives us the same game. Funny how everyone wants it now, but when we proposed it in 2008 it was Dan Beebe—Big 12 commish—that was one of the strongest voices against the proposal. Right behind the Big 12, the Pac 10.

IOW, you screwed yourself, "also-rans," years ago.

BTW, both conferences have voted unanimously to approve a plus one...and, that happened within the last month.

I wonder why...:headscratch:
 
Here's my thing Kirk. I do understand some of the complaints and the accusations of it being flawed. But, those with those complaints always have something they can point to that put them exactly where they are.

Take Arkansas for example. Did they deserve to be in a BCS bowl over West Virginia or a Clemson: both with two conferences losses? Continuing with conferences losses, what about a one loss Va. Tech team or a two loss Michigan team? These are season ending results when you look at W/L records and Clemson is one that ends the season with three losses.

Does Arkansas have an argument? Based on rankings in the BCS one could certainly say, "hell yeah!" Did they get screwed by the system?

Wait a minute...this is the same Arkansas that lost two conference games last year, didn't win their conference much less their division, and still ended up with a BCS bowl bid.

It's convoluted, yes. But, there are FEW that I listen to with their arguments. Simply put, I refuse to let them have it both ways depending on the season they choose.
 
Whereas I agree that Bama is relavant, I think it is more true to say that the heartburn that we are hearing is because the rest of college football has repeatedly failed to make itself relavant. Its not that we are good, its that they are not as good and can't fix that.

If you can't make yourself good enough to with the game, change the game.

"Bama didn't win their own division!" So what. That is not a rule in this game.
"They had their chance!" A good point if that game was in a playoff context, but again, that is not the game we are playing.
"Bama schedule is not as tough as OSUs!" Apparently that is irrelavant to the two people polls and half dozen computer polls that decide who plays for the title.

The game has not changed since September. We all play by the same rules. There is no unfair advantage. The game is the game, and the SEC plays it better than any other conference in the country.
 
Well said terry, I have always wanted the "system" to use all the bowl games as a playoff, you keep the bowls and have the top teams in the country getting to see who really is number one. But then you have the money problem, for instance the SEC would rake in plenty of dough year in and year out, because they would probably compete or have two teams for the National Championship every year...wait they are already doing that without a playoff. Anywho people can argue both ways and having 120 teams in division 1 college you will never be able to get the right format. Boise State, Cincinnati,TCU and Houston would not benefit with a playoff because they would get theirs on a even scale IMHO, basically losing to a down perennial team or another up and coming of the same caliber, and the LSU's and Alabama's taking the trophy anyways. A plus one is the best cure for this and I am all for it. I for one would of loved to have played OSU, I feel comfortable saying we would beat them like rented mules. Fact is, there is not a sure fire way to fix this, but a plus one would help. Unless the SEC fields all four spots, and I could go on and on. LOL
 
LBS said:
Whereas I agree that Bama is relavant, I think it is more true to say that the heartburn that we are hearing is because the rest of college football has repeatedly failed to make itself relavant. Its not that we are good, its that they are not as good and can't fix that.

If you can't make yourself good enough to with the game, change the game.

"Bama didn't win their own division!" So what. That is not a rule in this game.
"They had their chance!" A good point if that game was in a playoff context, but again, that is not the game we are playing.
"Bama schedule is not as tough as OSUs!" Apparently that is irrelavant to the two people polls and half dozen computer polls that decide who plays for the title.

The game has not changed since September. We all play by the same rules. There is no unfair advantage. The game is the game, and the SEC plays it better than any other conference in the country.
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Spot on
 
Bama1966 said:
Well said terry, I have always wanted the "system" to use all the bowl games as a playoff, you keep the bowls and have the top teams in the country getting to see who really is number one. But then you have the money problem, for instance the SEC would rake in plenty of dough year in and year out, because they would probably compete or have two teams for the National Championship every year...wait they are already doing that without a playoff. Anywho people can argue both ways and having 120 teams in division 1 college you will never be able to get the right format. Boise State, Cincinnati,TCU and Houston would not benefit with a playoff because they would get theirs on a even scale IMHO, basically losing to a down perennial team or another up and coming of the same caliber, and the LSU's and Alabama's taking the trophy anyways. A plus one is the best cure for this and I am all for it. I for one would of loved to have played OSU, I feel comfortable saying we would beat them like rented mules. Fact is, there is not a sure fire way to fix this, but a plus one would help. Unless the SEC fields all four spots, and I could go on and on. LOL
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And, on a hypothetical, let's assume that was in place.

If UArk would have beaten LSU at seasons end they would have remained in the top four in this order: Bama, Okie St., LSU, Arkansas. (No, I don't think UArk would have jumped LSU.)

Three SEC teams. Let's assume USCe and UGA didn't lose to Auburn and Boise State? The SEC would have five of the top eight in the BCS rankings.

NOW you want a playoff?
 
TerryP said:
And, on a hypothetical, let's assume that was in place.

If UArk would have beaten LSU at seasons end they would have remained in the top four in this order: Bama, Okie St., LSU, Arkansas. (No, I don't think UArk would have jumped LSU.)

Three SEC teams. Let's assume USCe and UGA didn't lose to Auburn and Boise State? The SEC would have five of the top eight in the BCS rankings.

NOW you want a playoff?
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Why not, we do it every year anyways. :td:
 
This has to be kept in perspective considering—in our case as example with Penn State—there aren't a lot of marque' OOC games throughout an individual season.

That takes the same amount of consideration as the games we do play in the post season and the domination we've seen SEC present. Ask Michigan State.

This year, the SEC lost eight non-conference games this year, including the bowl games. Do that math on that winning percentage.

That's the smallest number of losses since '97 and we lost seven freakin' games that year!!!!
 

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