50+yeartidefan
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We have had enough"bush league" for sure....no mas
| FTBL SEC coaches will be suspended a game for 3rd violation for players faking injuries.
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TerryP
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I don't care who answers this question.
Justneedme81
Member
Best way to sell it is when there's lot of players around and you can actually pretend to get caught up and be hurt.
AirForceBamaFan
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It is no different to me…still gaming the system…still looks weak and undisciplined.
50+yeartidefan
Member
Still think. You hurt on field. Trainers come out. Player sits XX minutes or team uses a TO
Not really following you here. On the football side, we see the “fake” injuries as a way to slow an opposing offense and/or to make substitutions. On the court, I don’t really recall many coaches trying to get a technical foul for the same thing. Assuming you mean “flow” as in pace.
TerryP
Staff
I see a basketball coach raising hell and he gets "T'd' up. He is doing to affect the game, the pace, the momentum.
That's where I'm lost...the end result is still the same. One is lauded, the other?
Maybe. I guess I see it from a different perspective. On the court it seems like it's a tactic to try and either get the officials to recalibrate their whistles or in some cases, built up frustration (usually with the officials still) to try and stop a run/momentum by the other team. But, either way, the basketball team gets penalized for it. In football, they don't... and it's still almost exclusively a tactic to slow an opposing offense or to allow a sub(s) without burning a timeout. I think I understand what your comparison, but to me there is a rather stark difference.
TerryP
Staff
I understand where you are coming from here. I don't disagree. I don't like it. But.
How different is it from icing the kicker?
Within the rules, in all cases, it stops the game for a minute.
This is not a hill I will die upon. It's just one of those things I look at and say, "ya know...?"
The T is more like a football coach getting an unsportsmanlike flag to me. Sometimes it's to send a message to the players, sometimes the officials. Interrupts the flow but I'd say not normally the intended purpose.
The problem is that with the hurry up, a player limping off puts the D at a disadvantage. This has gone from “if you are hurt, get down so we can make a sub” to strategic fakery.
TerryP
Staff
I don't disagree.
50+yeartidefan
Member
Easy. Player limping off. Ref stops snap. .. i guess they would start faking that too. So they could sub..
Icing the kicker and getting a T does not fake something that is flat out untrue. Could a coach go off on a ref to purposefully impact the flow of the game? I am sure it happens and then it could be similar although this is not asking your player to do your dirty work for you. Seems like most of the time the T is more about frustration and to get the referees attention. The fake injury thing truly is a maniluplation and just completely fabricated. My perspective at least.
How to prove a player is or isn’t injured. If you’re counting on the refs to make that decision you’re fooling yourself, they can’t get the calls or no calls right. In the extreme, will a bone have to be sticking out for confirmation?
I like the idea but who, what where and when is the enforcement coming from?
I like the idea but who, what where and when is the enforcement coming from?
Player doesn’t go back in until the next defensive or offensive series or a score.
