🏈 Saban has said all but one of the players have been vaccinated.

[18Champs]

So we won't likely see a game canceled or forfeited due to testing procedures.

I'm ready for some football.

 

[1CrimsonTider]

Billingsley, I guess? That's the reason he was "given a few days off?"

 

[TerryP]

Billingsley, I guess? That's the reason he was "given a few days off?"

He wasn't given his "time out" because he didn't get the vaccination. At the time there were a few that hadn't received their shots and they were told not to go home during a break from fall camp (to avoid the chances of getting C-19.) Billingsley went home anyway.

 

[Tidestalker]

Don't like the idea of any added public pressure to the 1 hold out....

Nothing wrong with saying "almost fully vaccinated", or "A very high % are vaccinated". The 1 dude will almost surely be outted and face some unnecessary criticism.... As you can see in even our comments - Let the guessing begin.

 

[BamaFan334]

Don't like the idea of any added public pressure to the 1 hold out....

Nothing wrong with saying "almost fully vaccinated", or "A very high % are vaccinated". The 1 dude will almost surely be outted and face some unnecessary criticism.... As you can see in even our comments - Let the guessing begin.

Agreed. No one should be pressured, shunned, or forced. Especially once the minimum percentage is reached voluntarily where the team doesn't have to sacrifice.

 

[Tidestalker]

Agreed. No one should be pressured, shunned, or forced. Especially once the minimum percentage is reached voluntarily where the team doesn't have to sacrifice.

It appears that could be Saban's motivation here. Not sure why else he would highlight an actual number, particularly 1 person, in this circumstance.

 

[TerryP]

It appears that could be Saban's motivation here. Not sure why else he would highlight an actual number, particularly 1 person, in this circumstance.

You're either out of the loop or really don't understand the culture of the locker room.

Or stirrin'

 

[Justneedme81]

to make that statement.. Ya'll clueless of how things work in locker room.

 

[Tidestalker]

You're either out of the loop or really don't understand the culture of the locker room.

Or stirrin'

Feel free to explain.

The OP never posted a link, so I will say a context would be helpful before jumping to a conclusion.

But unless the player is unable to take it, injured, not on campus, etc.... then I take it how I take it from headline given.

 

[TerryP]

to make that statement.. Ya'll clueless of how things work in locker room.

One point missed is "no locker room is built alike." Some coaching staff's will lose locker rooms.

If a coach lost his in 2020, there's the making of an issue.

 

[TerryP]

The OP never posted a link, so I will say a context would be helpful before jumping to a conclusion.

Seriously, aren't you jumping to conclusions by posting some of the things/thoughts that you have in this thread?

I'm on my phone so this will have to wait... It's easy to search and find how the program had handled this. I know I've posted updated timelines.

 

[Tidestalker]

Seriously, aren't you jumping to conclusions by posting some of the things/thoughts that you have in this thread?

I'm on my phone so this will have to wait... It's easy to search and find how the program had handled this. I know I've posted updated timelines.

Yes.... I'm saying I may be out of context.

I'm also saying that all I responded to was the info given.

 

[TerryP]

The OP never posted a link, so I will say a context would be helpful before jumping to a conclusion.

In all fairness when the OP posted this thread, Wednesday, it was following an interview with Schlabach on ESPN. The article covering the interview was published Wednesday afternoon.

The 1 dude will almost surely be outted and face some unnecessary criticism.... As you can see in even our comments - Let the guessing begin.

I'm also saying that all I responded to was the info given.

What information shared led to "almost surely be outted?" That's pure speculation and what's led me to question how much is known about the culture of the lockeroom.

There have been three different physicians who have talked to the team about the pro's and the con's of taking the vaccine. The entire staff, including players, understand it's an individuals choice. They also understand this is a distraction, so to speak. (In a very real sense it's no different than the NIL.) I'll go as far as saying I believe this group is more educated about the virus and vaccine than the majority of the general population—definitely far ahead of some of the SEC counterparts.

I'm left with the impression you're looking for the "Boogeyman" around every corner as of we were still under the Shula regime.

 

[BamaFan334]

In all fairness when the OP posted this thread, Wednesday, it was following an interview with Schlabach on ESPN. The article covering the interview was published Wednesday afternoon.




What information shared led to "almost surely be outted?" That's pure speculation and what's led me to question how much is known about the culture of the lockeroom.

There have been three different physicians who have talked to the team about the pro's and the con's of taking the vaccine. The entire staff, including players, understand it's an individuals choice. They also understand this is a distraction, so to speak. (In a very real sense it's no different than the NIL.) I'll go as far as saying I believe this group is more educated about the virus and vaccine than the majority of the general population—definitely far ahead of some of the SEC counterparts.

I'm left with the impression you're looking for the "Boogeyman" around every corner as of we were still under the Shula regime.

You could allow 100 different physicians come in, and you could get 100 different opinions. Who is right? Who is wrong? Is there a right or wrong about something we are so unsure of still?

Considering the near zero affect on people within that age range when it comes to death and even hospitalization, what's the difference in being vaccinated and unvaccinated when both can still get sick, both can still spread it, and both can apparently still die from it? This is what I will not understand when it comes to the SEC or any other conference when threatening with forfeits and making guys sit out. In the end, it's holding player's and coach's feet to the fire and forcing them to get injected. I just saw yesterday where the governor of Washington threatened to fire the Washington State head coach if he didn't get the vaccination.

Washington State Coach’s New Rival: The Governor Who Wants Him to Get Vaccinated

Cougars football coach Nick Rolovich agrees to get Covid-19 vaccine after state mandate.

www.wsj.com

 

[TerryP]

. I just saw yesterday where the governor of Washington threatened to fire the Washington State head coach if he didn't get the vaccination.

I hope he does for the entertainment value of following that story. Heads will explode

 

[Tidestalker]

In all fairness when the OP posted this thread, Wednesday, it was following an interview with Schlabach on ESPN. The article covering the interview was published Wednesday afternoon.




What information shared led to "almost surely be outted?" That's pure speculation and what's led me to question how much is known about the culture of the lockeroom.

There have been three different physicians who have talked to the team about the pro's and the con's of taking the vaccine. The entire staff, including players, understand it's an individuals choice. They also understand this is a distraction, so to speak. (In a very real sense it's no different than the NIL.) I'll go as far as saying I believe this group is more educated about the virus and vaccine than the majority of the general population—definitely far ahead of some of the SEC counterparts.

I'm left with the impression you're looking for the "Boogeyman" around every corner as of we were still under the Shula regime.

Not at all.

I still don't see the point in Saban, or any coach for that matter, detailing the actual # of players not vaccinated unless it's for a greater purpose. And even a non-boogyman looker can admit that CNS is in the conversation for one of the most calculated coaches of all time when using the media, so it simply raises my ire as to state the actual #, especially when it's simply 1.

And whether it's Saban, the Pope, or John down the street... My principles wouldn't change because of what team I cheer for. I don't like the idea of extra pressure being put on anyone to get this particular vaccination. If you disagree I understand, or don't see this as added pressure, I understand. Just happen to disagree. So I simply posted my opinion as such, and I think many could easily grasp why that 1 person may now feel more pressure after one of the most influential people in all of sport has highlighted the issue to the media & public knowledge forefront. (Does the public really need to know 1 dude isn't vaccinated if the team has reached the league's threshold?)

If there's some type of reason the individual can't get vaxed, or some special reason that CNS would have noted that 1 person, I'd love to hear it and it could certainly impact my outlook. I actually asked you to explain earlier in the thread, and for whatever reason you semi referenced it but didn't post it... I'm not above saying I'm wrong, but given the context provided so far I don't feel that way.

 

[TerryP]

If you disagree I understand, or don't see this as added pressure, I understand. Just happen to disagree. So I simply posted my opinion as such, and I think many could easily grasp why that 1 person may now feel more pressure after one of the most influential people in all of sport has highlighted the issue to the media & public knowledge forefront. (Does the public really need to know 1 dude isn't vaccinated if the team has reached the league's threshold?)

It's not about whether I agree with what he said. My response was directed at how you felt this one person would be pressured; or feel pressured. That's why I proffered the thought that you didn't understand the culture of the locker room.

 

[TerryP]

I actually asked you to explain earlier in the thread, and for whatever reason you semi referenced it but didn't post it... I'm not above saying I'm wrong, but given the context provided so far I don't feel that way.

It would take paragraphs for me to walk through every step the staff has taken. Call me lazy, I don't want to type that much.

I have posted updates on how the staff has been handling this—consisently. It's understandable if you have missed those in threads in the off-season.

 

[Tidestalker]

It's not about whether I agree with what he said. My response was directed at how you felt this one person would be pressured; or feel pressured. That's why I proffered the thought that you didn't understand the culture of the locker room.

That is certainly fair! I do believe that there is a legitimate strength & togetherness in the locker room.... I just don't see the need to test it, do you?

It's really easy to see why players & coaches would now be asked more about who the player is. As I pointed out earlier, in this thread alone a name was put into question regarding their own decision and status on the vaccine. That's unfortunate.

I go back to the question - Why would you put a number on it if you're Coach Saban? Why does the public need to know if it's 1, 5, or 10 guys, as long as they're pass the threshold? If you or anyone else has an answer or opinion on that, I'm all ears.