🏈 S&C coaching limits coming 8/1

[planomateo]

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/20/s...aff-limits-on-strength-coaches-loom.html?_r=1

Not sure I agree with this, still thinking about this one.

 

[Bo]

I know I don't agree with it. All this about trying to level the playing field for the smaller is BS in my opinion. If they can't run with the big dogs they need to stay on the porch. Out of the 120 or so schools that are in the FBS (D1A), there's probably at least 50 or 60 that have absolutely no business being in there.

 

[TerryP]

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/20/s...aff-limits-on-strength-coaches-loom.html?_r=1

Not sure I agree with this, still thinking about this one.

It's not a good move by the NCAA.

It's a worse move by the NY Times editor who tried to make this about the SEC when you consider:

Tom Moffitt, the strength and conditioning coach at Louisiana State University, disputed the assertion that there were more personnel involved with SEC teams. Moffit said L.S.U. had done research showing that the number of football players per strength and conditioning coaches in the SEC was 18.86. That was the lowest ratio in college football, but he said several other Bowl Championship Series conferences were within a player or two.

Moffitt also said that the restriction put players at risk because fewer strength coaches meant less supervision and less instruction about proper weight-lifting technique.

Notice the two people who are making comments on this? One, from the Big East, and the other from a school and is an also-ran in the ACC.

I'll go on a little more on that last point.

Dr. William Kirwan, chancellor of the University System of Maryland and a co-chairman of the Knight Commission on Intercollegiate Athletics, a watchdog group, said the SEC was more responsible than any other conference for upping the ante in spending year after year.

University System of Maryland. This is the same Maryland that just recently announced they were discontinuing eight athletic sports because they couldn't afford them any longer. So, we'll weigh in on schools that can continue and try to bring them down to our level with legislation?

Bad move by the NCAA to even get involved in S&C.

Then we have the Big East weighing in which is such a case of hypocrisy it almost astounds me: ALMOST.

The strength and conditioning legislation was designed to restore some competitive balance, said Joe D’Antonio, a senior associate commissioner of the Big East who was also a member of the N.C.A.A.’s group. Football programs are allowed 10 full-time coaches and four graduate assistants, but D’Antonio said some programs would hire coaches with football experience in strength and conditioning roles.

That kind of loophole can lead to instruction in the off-season. Wake Forest Coach Jim Grobe noted that football coaches were not permitted to have contact with their players during the summer, but that strength coaches were. Sometimes agility and weight training become drills teaching football techniques.

Understand. This comes from a senior admin of a conference that made a decision not once, but twice, to focus on making their conference a basketball conference instead of football and are suffering the economic impact due to that poor decision.

But wait! Does this apply to basketball? No! In fact, the NCAA just made a rule INCREASING the amount of time coaches can spend with basketball players. They did this this year and announced it in June!

The new rule states that, "In men's basketball, a student-athlete who is enrolled in summer school may engage in required weight-training, conditioning and skill-related instruction for up to eight weeks (not required to be consecutive weeks). Participation in such activities shall be limited to a maximum of eight hours per week with not more than two hours per week spent on skill-related instruction."

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Think about it all you like Matt. I'm calling:

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[planomateo]

Here is an example of what I mean about when I say I'm still thinking about this one...

• So by reducing the number of non-coaching staff positions like S&C, doesn't that mean the rich get richer? Wouldn't this mean that the bigger schools actually save on operating costs?

To your point about the conferences speaking up, if the other big conferences are within 1-2 coaches, why would he even interview them - of course he's gonna interview the smaller schools.

Was digging up more information about this and ran across the "Division 1 Athletics Personnel 2012 NCAA Regional Rules" PowerPoint - this is pretty interesting.

Agenda (from 2nd page)​

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  [*=1]New legislation
  [*=1]Individual associated with a prospective student-athlete - men's basketball.
  [*=1]NCAA Working Group on Collegiate Model - Bylaw 11 commitments and concepts
  [*=1]Other Issues

The writer, according to his bio, back in the 80's was the executive sports editor @ The Knoxville Journal. I'm not in the business so don't know if that was a worthy job...but thinking he isn't a SEC hater due to this, but maybe I'm looking at it wrong.

Terry - what does a freelance journalist get paid per article on average?...just curious

 

[TerryP]

Here is an example of what I mean about when I say I'm still thinking about this one...

• So by reducing the number of non-coaching staff positions like S&C, doesn't that mean the rich get richer? Wouldn't this mean that the bigger schools actually save on operating costs?

To your point about the conferences speaking up, if the other big conferences are within 1-2 coaches, why would he even interview them - of course he's gonna interview the smaller schools.

Was digging up more information about this and ran across the "Division 1 Athletics Personnel 2012 NCAA Regional Rules" PowerPoint - this is pretty interesting.

Agenda (from 2nd page)​

• 
  [*=1]New legislation
  [*=1]Individual associated with a prospective student-athlete - men's basketball.
  [*=1]NCAA Working Group on Collegiate Model - Bylaw 11 commitments and concepts
  [*=1]Other Issues

The writer, according to his bio, back in the 80's was the executive sports editor @ The Knoxville Journal. I'm not in the business so don't know if that was a worthy job...but thinking he isn't a SEC hater due to this, but maybe I'm looking at it wrong.

Terry - what does a freelance journalist get paid per article on average?...just curious

Depends on experience, subject matter, etc. but the least I've seen out of our papers here was in the $35 -$40 range at submission and then paid per views based on 1000 click increments versus others paid a flat fee per article. With the NY Times, I really don't know. Just as an example, some of those working at about.com are hitting six figures per year on submissions.

 

[bamaledge]

I also don't have to think about this. This is another example of affirmative action bull crap. They can't compete on thier own, they have to bring stronger conferences down to thier level and under mine the whole system. Pretty soon they'll be handing out "just for showing up " trophies.