I agree there. Id also have no problems with just a warning about it, I doubt the possibility of it being the wrong thing to do even popped up in their heads, it wouldnt have in mine atleast, and I could see myself easily making the same mistake in their position.
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I agree there. Id also have no problems with just a warning about it, I doubt the possibility of it being the wrong thing to do even popped up in their heads, it wouldnt have in mine atleast, and I could see myself easily making the same mistake in their position.
It depends on what the issue is...I mean seriously. How can you equate to being arrested for possession of an unregistered firearm with drugs in the car, to what is being discussed regarding Jones and Ingram? Are you serious? One issue is discipline for serious behavioural and decision making problems, the other is following compliance requirements where a student athlete accidentally violated amateur status and has already paid restitution. If a suspension against the weak sisters of the poor is adequate, so be it. It may not even come to that!
True.
I came across an article this morning talking about how a newspaper in Colombus, OH, had been doing a study on how schools black out names in reports to the NCAA and claim the student privacy act as their reasons to do so.
During this report they discovered OU had self reported a secondary violation with one of their student athletes. His/her name is yet to be disclosed, but there is something in the article that is related to this thread here.
From NEWSOK.comOver the weekend, the Columbus (Ohio) Dispatch published the results of a six-month long investigation of how NCAA schools use their own interpretations of the Family Educational Rights and Privacy Act to ācensor information in the name of student privacy.ā
In its investigation, titled āSecrecy 101,ā which included making extensive open records requests from all 119 Football Bowl Subdivision schools, the Dispatch learned that among several violations committed by various schools across the country, an unidentifiedUniversity of Oklahoma football player committed a violation last spring that was discovered in November 2008.
According to the Dispatch, the player traveled to an NFL Draft party as the guest of a former college teammate. The $1,300 trip, which included use of a credit card, was paid for by the former teammateās agent. The university erased all names from the violation report.
The Dispatch reported that the NCAAās penalty for the violation was that the football player had to repay $832 to a charity from his scholarship, a federal Pell grant, and the school-issued spending money he received during the teamās trip to the BCS National Championship game. An OU spokesman said the player was reinstated with no competition penalty.
Now, this isn't the same thing.
But, it's a trip a kid made having fun as we should HOPE our student athletes are able to do when they are in school.
As you can see (I got happy with colors) there are a few points in there to take note of.
I may have created some unnecessary confusion with my post.
I did not mean to imply that Julio should be suspended. In fact, based on what Terry described a suspension would be overkill and done simply to send a message to the NCAA that we are harder on own players than any other program is on their own. A stupid signal to send (but understandable given our recent history and the problems our current AD has with understanding compliance).
In fact, Julio Jones and Mark Ingram and their current situation was not even a minute part of my response to a question.
I was responding very narrowly to the question of if there is a precedent for enforcing a player suspension sometime after the first game of the season when the infraction occurred sometime between the last game of the prior season and the first game of the current season. Garth/Simpson was a glaring example of just such a precedent.
My comment indicating that precedent was not exactly honorable nor should be repeated spoke only to the idea that our coaches should not delay punishment for a pre-season player infraction until later in the season when the opponent is less of a threat. And only that general practice. A a coach who only hands out suspensions for games where the opponent is not a real threat is not much of a leader or teacher.
Nor should the punishment include the meting out of an ice cream cone.
Semantics.
I call a trip to go fishing a excursion. I call a cruise something you go on for a few days, sleep, gamble...you know the routine.
Gilligan went on a three hour cruise.
Has no bearing really on the story itself...just like it was a Auburn fan has no bearing either.
In all honesty, this came out several days before the post was made here. There was a little discussion about it on our "Booster forum," but it wasn't brought up here because of the reactions and conversations that were bound to follow.
Trust me TP I, being here near AU I heared about it before anything was posted here(and it was made to be a huge deal by most of them), just was not gonna say anything on here without facts:smile:.
My only contribution to this kerfuffle is to clarify that Gilligan went on a three hour tour. Besides, Mary Ann was a Jayhawk and Ginger a Lady of Troy.
...back to our regular scheduled aubrun propaganda...
Brief, and on topic, usually.
Looks that way. They both payed back the money and their amateur status is protected. The issue only became NCAA related if their status was in jeopardy and they played a game during that time frame. Then it would be playing an ineligible player. Its like it never happened.
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That's what they're saying @ Tidesports too.
http://forums.tidesports.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/3631098265/m/4461090588?r=4851001588#4851001588
http://forums.tidesports.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/3631098265/m/4461090588?r=4851001588#4851001588
Probably the same kind as the way this story has worked out for The Barners - a flounder. That or a blow fish.
I never understood the whole issue here. These are kids who went on a vacation with girls and the girls parents from what I understand. That shouldn't be a problem. 19-20 year old students do that all the time. Parents pay for the vacations all the time.
It's not like they received a gift of substantial value, like a car or cash.
It's not like they received a gift of substantial value, like a car or cash.
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