🏈 Robby Green?
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Crimson&WhiteGecko
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Me too, dude is a ball hawk. I'll never forget that pick he made in the '09 Spring Game snatching the ball out of the air with one hand. Just hope he can get his stuff straight, but he may dug himself so far UNDER Coach Saban's doghouse he can never get out.
With Lester and Barron back, he wouldpine seen a lot of pine anyway; this suspension solidifies that.
Last year the NCAA-mandated (alleged to be PED, if memory serves), what was it this time? Anyone have insight on what team rule he violated?
With two All-American type safeties coming back, after you've already missed a year, you have to be smart to get any PT!
Last year the NCAA-mandated (alleged to be PED, if memory serves), what was it this time? Anyone have insight on what team rule he violated?
With two All-American type safeties coming back, after you've already missed a year, you have to be smart to get any PT!
You do realize that Alabama was one Robby Green away from winning the Iron Bowl last year, right? Of course, we were also one Trent Richardson catch, one GMac fumble, one massive choke job, etc. away from winning but either way had RG not been suspended he would have been in the game instead of a one-armed Crimson Barron.
Don't step too far out on a limb...
Ifs and buts...
Had he remained eligible, we probably wouldn't know Lester's ability. However, the world moved on without Robby Green and now Lester has most likely solidified himself as a starter.
As an aside, if you think Robby Green would've stopped Bama from imploding I think you overstate his ability. He wasn't a full-time starter in 2009, outside of the nickel and dime packages. 1 pick and 33 tackles and you act as if I'm lost because I'd take Lester's 8 picks and 52 tackles? Right...
Uh, my 14 year old nephew could have, if not intercepted, at the very least knocked that lame duck of a pass to the ground. I am more than 1 trillion percent sure that Robby Green has the athletic ability to simply deflect a pass that hung in the air for 3 years. What Robert Lester has to do with this is beyond me. Was Robert Lester the one that had to play with one arm for the 2nd half of the Iron Bowl? Was Robert Lester the player that was unable to INT/knock the pass away because of having to play with one arm?
If I'm not mistaken, Robert Lester DID play in last year's Iron Bowl. Was he supposed to play 2 positions at the same time or something? Why is CNS not aware of his ability to do so?
Or am I just using poor math? What's 28-7, 'cause I keep coming up with 21? And 21<27 I think....I need a calculator apparently...
So anyway, "ifs and butts" are exactly why having a 2nd/3rd string player screw up & get himself suspended for the entire season can be considered "bad" as opposed to "good" or "no big deal".
If I'm not mistaken, Robert Lester DID play in last year's Iron Bowl. Was he supposed to play 2 positions at the same time or something? Why is CNS not aware of his ability to do so?
Or am I just using poor math? What's 28-7, 'cause I keep coming up with 21? And 21<27 I think....I need a calculator apparently...
So anyway, "ifs and butts" are exactly why having a 2nd/3rd string player screw up & get himself suspended for the entire season can be considered "bad" as opposed to "good" or "no big deal".
i do agree that lack of depth in the secondary really hurt us in that game after barron's injury..
as far as lester's picks, i think you can attribute that to him having less responsibility and being able to simply read the QB more often.. barron was in a similar situation in 09..
i think green is the better player against the pass..
as far as lester's picks, i think you can attribute that to him having less responsibility and being able to simply read the QB more often.. barron was in a similar situation in 09..
i think green is the better player against the pass..
The way I see this plays in this manner...and, it's the reason for my earlier post.
If you follow the development of our depth chart you can tell which players are going to be significant contributors and more often than not starters.
A week, maybe a week and a half ago, we had some player interviews. Chapman and Jesse were both interviewed as an example of the "contributors" category. Pay attention to that this year.
Now, back to the subject at hand.
Not once, one, did we see Green getting face time last spring. Not once did we hear Saban commenting on work ethic, etc. with Green as we did with our other starters.
That said, he may have contributed to our defensive backfield last year but he was far from as developed as you portray him to have been. I'd say that hasn't improved much over the last year as well.
If you follow the development of our depth chart you can tell which players are going to be significant contributors and more often than not starters.
A week, maybe a week and a half ago, we had some player interviews. Chapman and Jesse were both interviewed as an example of the "contributors" category. Pay attention to that this year.
Now, back to the subject at hand.
Not once, one, did we see Green getting face time last spring. Not once did we hear Saban commenting on work ethic, etc. with Green as we did with our other starters.
That said, he may have contributed to our defensive backfield last year but he was far from as developed as you portray him to have been. I'd say that hasn't improved much over the last year as well.
You probably don't need a calculator but some more time reading would help.
My original post said that Green would've been on the bench this year. It is obvious he wouldn't usurp Barron so if he were to break into the lineup, it would be at Lester's expense; that wouldn't happen. That is the Lester connection, go back and read my original post. It was a very simple explanation. One safety is an NFL prospect, the other was a total ball hawk last year--why the hell would either of them lose their spot to Green? They wont. Sure, the depth would help Green won't be sorely missed. Bama managed to struggle to the one of the top 5 defenses in the country without his "immense talent" on the field. You're being a touch dramatic.
What does the Iron Bowl have to do with this? Don't struggle with that one, it is rhetorical. However, since you brought it up...Barron misjudged the ball and made a bad play on it. By the way, that was second down. You assume that had that ball been knocked down that we fold and go home. It was the second play of the 3rd quarter, that is an awful lot of time. Barron would have been on the field whether Green was active or not. Saban has 3-4 years of top flight recruiting classes under his belt. If he didn't think Barron could play, he wouldn't have been on the field.
I really don't see how what I said before was difficult to understand.
My original post said that Green would've been on the bench this year. It is obvious he wouldn't usurp Barron so if he were to break into the lineup, it would be at Lester's expense; that wouldn't happen. That is the Lester connection, go back and read my original post. It was a very simple explanation. One safety is an NFL prospect, the other was a total ball hawk last year--why the hell would either of them lose their spot to Green? They wont. Sure, the depth would help Green won't be sorely missed. Bama managed to struggle to the one of the top 5 defenses in the country without his "immense talent" on the field. You're being a touch dramatic.
What does the Iron Bowl have to do with this? Don't struggle with that one, it is rhetorical. However, since you brought it up...Barron misjudged the ball and made a bad play on it. By the way, that was second down. You assume that had that ball been knocked down that we fold and go home. It was the second play of the 3rd quarter, that is an awful lot of time. Barron would have been on the field whether Green was active or not. Saban has 3-4 years of top flight recruiting classes under his belt. If he didn't think Barron could play, he wouldn't have been on the field.
I really don't see how what I said before was difficult to understand.
Good point Duder.
At this juncture, other than Green's physical play and added depth, how could one ponder starting Green over Lester?
This has been the only reason I even thought of having Green back would be a positive for us. We lacked depth and experience and Green would have given us both. Even if he was in CNS's good graces, I didn't see him bumping Lester from a starting role. Only spot I could have seen him getting would've been the Star or Money position. Even then, he would've had his work cut out for him.
I've changed my mind. CLEARLY Robby Green would not have been able to deflect a single pass even WITH an entire year of NOT being suspended. It's painfully obvious that a one-armed Mark Barron would be vastly better at play football than a health Robby Green. I mean, Robby Green is athletic, but I shouldn't overstate his athleticism by suggesting that he could INT/deflect a very poorly thrown ball. Only Deion Sanders has ever had the ability to do such a thing. I just wish Robby Green had been half as athletic as Will Lowery. I don't know what I was thinking. Oh, wait...I was being sarcastic! Yeah, that's the ticket...
ur really not getting it r u? they're not saying Green couldnt have made that play (tho there's no guarantee he would have been in the right position to make the play like Barron was), but suggesting that he may have not been playing at all...
So dumb. So very dumb.
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