And by the way, by my count his numbers are wrong by my records ... but more importantly, look at Bama's record those years.
🏈 PRE-GAME THREAD: It's AuBarn Week..
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I bet Saban would love to comment on this article. Hopefully the team knows better.
Alabama May Let Auburn Off Easy in Iron Bowl
Alabama May Let Auburn Off Easy in Iron Bowl
And soon the invasion begins. And remember people, stay out of their special parking places.
Oh, dear Lort.
I love my university and my team as much as anybody, but that's just stupid.
uke:I think I'm, nope get outta ma way here it comes.Alabama17Tide
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practice Report 11/22/16
Suttles
The team worked outside as it continued its preparation for Saturday's Iron Bowl in Tuscaloosa. Here is what I spotted in the media viewing period.
Offensive linemen Cam Robinson and Korren Kirven went through practice after being limited during Monday's practice. Both Robinson, the starting left tackle, and Kirven, the current starting right guard, suffered injuries in the Chattanooga. Nick Saban said both should practice this week. "I think those guys are better than expected. I don't know that they'll be able to practice (Monday) but hopefully we'll have everybody back to practice (Tuesday)." Alphonse "Shank" Taylor was again not spotted during the viewing period.
Redshirt junior wide receiver ArDarius Stewart went through practice and looks to be ready to play this Saturday.
Sophomore running back Bo Scarbrough went through drills with a knee brace on his right knee. Saban said Scarbrough should be able to play this week. "Bo should be back this week. Bo could have played in the last game. We made a decision. I talked to Bo before the game. He practiced, he wanted to play. I said 'We're going to use you in the game if we need you,' which to me meant that if one of the other guys got hurt and we needed another runner in the game, we would have played him. He should be fine this week and able to practice a little bit more and maybe get himself a little more game-ready."
Suttles
The team worked outside as it continued its preparation for Saturday's Iron Bowl in Tuscaloosa. Here is what I spotted in the media viewing period.
Offensive linemen Cam Robinson and Korren Kirven went through practice after being limited during Monday's practice. Both Robinson, the starting left tackle, and Kirven, the current starting right guard, suffered injuries in the Chattanooga. Nick Saban said both should practice this week. "I think those guys are better than expected. I don't know that they'll be able to practice (Monday) but hopefully we'll have everybody back to practice (Tuesday)." Alphonse "Shank" Taylor was again not spotted during the viewing period.
Redshirt junior wide receiver ArDarius Stewart went through practice and looks to be ready to play this Saturday.
Sophomore running back Bo Scarbrough went through drills with a knee brace on his right knee. Saban said Scarbrough should be able to play this week. "Bo should be back this week. Bo could have played in the last game. We made a decision. I talked to Bo before the game. He practiced, he wanted to play. I said 'We're going to use you in the game if we need you,' which to me meant that if one of the other guys got hurt and we needed another runner in the game, we would have played him. He should be fine this week and able to practice a little bit more and maybe get himself a little more game-ready."
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Something to chew on...
As a college coach, Malzahn is 1-4 against three different teams that included Pruitt as a defensive assistant, with Pruitt's teams winning the last four meetings. As a college head coach, Malzahn is 0-3 against two different teams that featured Pruitt as the defensive coordinator.
Dive deeper into the numbers in those games, and it's fair to ask this question: Does Jeremy Pruitt own Gus Malzahn?
That Nick Saban vs. Auburn stat Alabama fans can't stand
That Nick Saban vs. Auburn stat Alabama fans can't stand
It's not just that, since Auburn 28, Alabama 27 in the 2010 Iron Bowl, with Malzahn as the Auburn offensive coordinator and Pruitt as the Alabama secondary coach, Malzahn hasn't beaten a team with Pruitt on the staff.
As a college coach, Malzahn is 1-4 against three different teams that included Pruitt as a defensive assistant, with Pruitt's teams winning the last four meetings. As a college head coach, Malzahn is 0-3 against two different teams that featured Pruitt as the defensive coordinator.
Dive deeper into the numbers in those games, and it's fair to ask this question: Does Jeremy Pruitt own Gus Malzahn?
That Nick Saban vs. Auburn stat Alabama fans can't stand
That Nick Saban vs. Auburn stat Alabama fans can't stand
It's not just that, since Auburn 28, Alabama 27 in the 2010 Iron Bowl, with Malzahn as the Auburn offensive coordinator and Pruitt as the Alabama secondary coach, Malzahn hasn't beaten a team with Pruitt on the staff.
Alabama17Tide
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CNS Wednesday press conference
He said Cam Robinson and Korren Kirven have practiced and have both made progress this week and said both would play this week. He added that Bo Scarbrough has practiced this week too.
TRANSCRIPT
"I think in games like this that are big rivalry games where there's a lot of stuff going on around the game and all that, players have to really focus on execution. That's the most important thing in a game like this. Focusing on what you need to do in the game to play well and not get sort of semi-distracted by all the things that are going on around you, so you're not saying 'What if' and 'if only I'd have done this or that or whatever' and have a bunch of regret. So that's what we're trying to focus on with our players. We certainly made progress this week but we still have work to do. This is a great rivalry game and everybody looks forward to competing in it. I think our players would love to play their best football in this game."
Earlier in the year you were talking about penalties piling up in a few games. What has been behind you all cutting down those penalties?
"We emphasize it every day. It's disappointing when you emphasize it and you don't get the result that you want, which sometimes earlier in the year, we did not get it. Lately, it's been a little better. Especially the undisciplined type penalties: false starts, illegal formations on offense, jumping offsides and lining up offsides on defense. I think you're going to have a few competitive penalties every now and then, where maybe a guy gets a pass interference or a holding call when you're out there competing or whatever. It's those kind of penalties that you really want to eliminate and put yourself in good position and use good technique, focus on what you're doing is usually what contributes to that. We have officials every day in practice. We go through penalties every day in practice so that players see the emphasis on what they need to improve on when it comes to those types of things."
Any update on Cam Robinson and Korren Kirven?
"They have practiced and if they continue to make progress, they both will play. Bo Scarbrough has practiced more this week so we're hopeful he will continue to progress. Certainly looks a lot better this week. That's about it."
Are you ever nervous before a game or in preparation? Or always nervous?
"I don't know if nervous is the right word. I think that you stay a little up-tight or at least I do until I feel like the players really sort of 'got it' in terms of understanding what they need to do when you've had enough repetitions to get things right. So you feel like going into the game, there aren't a lot of questions in their mind about they need to do and how they should adjust. Then I think when the game starts, you're totally involved in the game and trying to make adjustments to whatever is happening in the game. You're worrying play to play, you're not really nervous or anything like that. I don't really know if nervous is the right word. I don't know if anxious is the right word. I would use the word 'concerned' that you have your players ready to play well."
Thoughts on Kerryon Johnson? You recruited him in high school.
"He's a fantastic player. A very good all-around player. He can run inside, can run outside. Really good receiver. They use him in Wildcat some so he can handle the ball for them. He is the whole package and a complete player and we have a tremendous amount of respect for him. I think when those two guys are healthy, their running game is even better, and it's always really good."
With your NFL background, would you be in favor if the NCAA instituted an injury report policy?
"Who would we be giving that to? Why would we be doing that? For you or for us?"
Both.
"No, I think we would be doing it for you. I have no interest in telling the other team what players are going to play or whatever, and I don't think most teams in the NFL do either, but the media wants to know and they put a lot of pressure on them, so they made a rule that you have to release an injury report. So, you know, I guess if I was in your shoes I'd be for it. Standing up here in my shoes. I'm not for it."
"Thanksgiving is a great time of the year for everybody to have a lot of gratitude for all the blessings that we have and things that sometimes we don't think about that we should be thankful for. I hope everybody has a very happy Thanksgiving. All of our fans, all of our supporters, and certainly the group of people here today, sacrificing and being away from your family to cover our team. Thank you very much."
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He said Cam Robinson and Korren Kirven have practiced and have both made progress this week and said both would play this week. He added that Bo Scarbrough has practiced this week too.
TRANSCRIPT
"I think in games like this that are big rivalry games where there's a lot of stuff going on around the game and all that, players have to really focus on execution. That's the most important thing in a game like this. Focusing on what you need to do in the game to play well and not get sort of semi-distracted by all the things that are going on around you, so you're not saying 'What if' and 'if only I'd have done this or that or whatever' and have a bunch of regret. So that's what we're trying to focus on with our players. We certainly made progress this week but we still have work to do. This is a great rivalry game and everybody looks forward to competing in it. I think our players would love to play their best football in this game."
Earlier in the year you were talking about penalties piling up in a few games. What has been behind you all cutting down those penalties?
"We emphasize it every day. It's disappointing when you emphasize it and you don't get the result that you want, which sometimes earlier in the year, we did not get it. Lately, it's been a little better. Especially the undisciplined type penalties: false starts, illegal formations on offense, jumping offsides and lining up offsides on defense. I think you're going to have a few competitive penalties every now and then, where maybe a guy gets a pass interference or a holding call when you're out there competing or whatever. It's those kind of penalties that you really want to eliminate and put yourself in good position and use good technique, focus on what you're doing is usually what contributes to that. We have officials every day in practice. We go through penalties every day in practice so that players see the emphasis on what they need to improve on when it comes to those types of things."
Any update on Cam Robinson and Korren Kirven?
"They have practiced and if they continue to make progress, they both will play. Bo Scarbrough has practiced more this week so we're hopeful he will continue to progress. Certainly looks a lot better this week. That's about it."
Are you ever nervous before a game or in preparation? Or always nervous?
"I don't know if nervous is the right word. I think that you stay a little up-tight or at least I do until I feel like the players really sort of 'got it' in terms of understanding what they need to do when you've had enough repetitions to get things right. So you feel like going into the game, there aren't a lot of questions in their mind about they need to do and how they should adjust. Then I think when the game starts, you're totally involved in the game and trying to make adjustments to whatever is happening in the game. You're worrying play to play, you're not really nervous or anything like that. I don't really know if nervous is the right word. I don't know if anxious is the right word. I would use the word 'concerned' that you have your players ready to play well."
Thoughts on Kerryon Johnson? You recruited him in high school.
"He's a fantastic player. A very good all-around player. He can run inside, can run outside. Really good receiver. They use him in Wildcat some so he can handle the ball for them. He is the whole package and a complete player and we have a tremendous amount of respect for him. I think when those two guys are healthy, their running game is even better, and it's always really good."
With your NFL background, would you be in favor if the NCAA instituted an injury report policy?
"Who would we be giving that to? Why would we be doing that? For you or for us?"
Both.
"No, I think we would be doing it for you. I have no interest in telling the other team what players are going to play or whatever, and I don't think most teams in the NFL do either, but the media wants to know and they put a lot of pressure on them, so they made a rule that you have to release an injury report. So, you know, I guess if I was in your shoes I'd be for it. Standing up here in my shoes. I'm not for it."
"Thanksgiving is a great time of the year for everybody to have a lot of gratitude for all the blessings that we have and things that sometimes we don't think about that we should be thankful for. I hope everybody has a very happy Thanksgiving. All of our fans, all of our supporters, and certainly the group of people here today, sacrificing and being away from your family to cover our team. Thank you very much."
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November 23 practice report:
It's the final day of practice notes during the regular season as Alabama keeps working toward the Iron Bowl. The weather considered raining as practice started but quickly thought better of it (Tuscaloosa still hasn't had any real rain since Sept. 18). Alabama was in full pads today:
It's the final day of practice notes during the regular season as Alabama keeps working toward the Iron Bowl. The weather considered raining as practice started but quickly thought better of it (Tuscaloosa still hasn't had any real rain since Sept. 18). Alabama was in full pads today:
- Overall, not much new to report. Didn't notice any players absent or returning that we hadn't told you about earlier this week.
- Bo Scarbrough was there and looked like he was a full participant.
- Cam Robinson was working at LT and Korren Kirven was playing RG.
- This might just be me, but Kirven sticks out like a sore thumb at RG. I know they've shuffled a bunch of players there this season and he may well be their best option, but he doesn't look like a guard. He's probably taller than any other starting OL. Doesn't seem to have a great bend to mitigate his height and help him get leverage. Just seems weird to me. Wonder if they finally feel settled at that position or if they are still working on some other guys.
- Josh Casher was the second team RG.
- Ronnie Clark was wearing the No. 36 jersey to simulate Kamryn Pettway.
Alabama17Tide
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Alabama-Auburn has meaning, thankfully
Cecil Hurt | Sports Editor
Nick Saban on the sideline at Auburn in 2015.
Gary Cosby Jr.
Having seen Will Muschamp's Angry Face in full flower at Auburn last season, I'm hardly anxious to pick a fight with him, but I am still going to disagree with something he said on Tuesday.
"Thanksgiving is a meal," Muschamp, now the head coach at South Carolina, said. "It’s not a day."
The context in which Muschamp was speaking wasn't uncommon. He was in the role of the tough, demanding football coach telling the local press in Columbia that there would be no deviation in routine as the Gamecocks prepare to play Clemson on Saturday.
He may even have been partly right. He's wrong about Thanksgiving being only a meal. You can have turkey and dressing and cranberry sauce in April if you want. Some people do. But if all they are worried about is what's being consumed and whether there is whipped topping for the pumpkin pie, that isn't Thanksgiving either. But it isn't "a day" either, if that means you are somehow a different person on a particular Thursday in November than you are on the other 364 days of the year.
If anything, Thanksgiving is an attitude. It's an awareness that, no matter where we are, we didn't get there by ourselves and we aren't standing there alone. Many people have seemed embittered lately, fearful for the future of our country or our society, regardless of political persuasion. Everyone has worries. But we also have blessings – important ones, like health and home, and superficial ones, like college football. After all, you can be thankful for the small things, too, if they make you happy, or forge a bond between friends or even let you blow off a little cathartic steam at that network color commentator who you just know hates your favorite team.
I'm going to suggest another blessing, even if it's being expressed in a sort of sideways manner by some people: the ones who suggest that because Alabama has played itself into position to make the College Football Playoff's four-team field, Saturday's game is somehow "meaningless." That's as off-base as Muschamp suggesting that Thanksgiving is just a happy combination of poultry, bread and gravy.
The Alabama-Auburn game is never "meaningless." The real marvel – and I am thankful for this – is that it has been so meaningful for the better part of 50 years, stupendously so for the last 10. Compare that to other rivalries: Georgia-Georgia Tech or Oklahoma State-Oklahoma or South Carolina-Clemson. I'm glad to concede that Florida-Florida State had a great stretch, but the history isn't as rich.
Auburn has plenty to play for on Saturday, even if a CFP berth or the SEC championship isn't on the line. A win would very possibly put the Tigers into the Sugar Bowl as the SEC's second-rated team. It would make Gus Malzahn 2-2 against Nick Saban, which would be a huge talking point in this state.
And, of course, it would be a sweet chaser to the bitter pill of Alabama's success, whatever that might be. Alabama fans now are looking at this team's place among the greatest of all time. That's not true if there is a loss to Auburn on the ledger.
So it means something to Auburn, and it should mean something to Alabama. When Nick Saban took the Alabama job and said that UA had a rival that it would work 365 days a year to dominate, he didn't mean that to include "with the occasional Thanksgiving weekend off."
I'm thankful that this state has two such fine programs, that one side or another has been in thick of national championship talk every year since 2008. And, as always, I'm thankful that you care enough about Alabama – and Auburn – to read about it in this column. So enjoy the game, and thanks.
TideSports.com - Alabama-Auburn has meaning, thankfully
Cecil Hurt | Sports Editor
Nick Saban on the sideline at Auburn in 2015.
Gary Cosby Jr.
Having seen Will Muschamp's Angry Face in full flower at Auburn last season, I'm hardly anxious to pick a fight with him, but I am still going to disagree with something he said on Tuesday.
"Thanksgiving is a meal," Muschamp, now the head coach at South Carolina, said. "It’s not a day."
The context in which Muschamp was speaking wasn't uncommon. He was in the role of the tough, demanding football coach telling the local press in Columbia that there would be no deviation in routine as the Gamecocks prepare to play Clemson on Saturday.
He may even have been partly right. He's wrong about Thanksgiving being only a meal. You can have turkey and dressing and cranberry sauce in April if you want. Some people do. But if all they are worried about is what's being consumed and whether there is whipped topping for the pumpkin pie, that isn't Thanksgiving either. But it isn't "a day" either, if that means you are somehow a different person on a particular Thursday in November than you are on the other 364 days of the year.
If anything, Thanksgiving is an attitude. It's an awareness that, no matter where we are, we didn't get there by ourselves and we aren't standing there alone. Many people have seemed embittered lately, fearful for the future of our country or our society, regardless of political persuasion. Everyone has worries. But we also have blessings – important ones, like health and home, and superficial ones, like college football. After all, you can be thankful for the small things, too, if they make you happy, or forge a bond between friends or even let you blow off a little cathartic steam at that network color commentator who you just know hates your favorite team.
I'm going to suggest another blessing, even if it's being expressed in a sort of sideways manner by some people: the ones who suggest that because Alabama has played itself into position to make the College Football Playoff's four-team field, Saturday's game is somehow "meaningless." That's as off-base as Muschamp suggesting that Thanksgiving is just a happy combination of poultry, bread and gravy.
The Alabama-Auburn game is never "meaningless." The real marvel – and I am thankful for this – is that it has been so meaningful for the better part of 50 years, stupendously so for the last 10. Compare that to other rivalries: Georgia-Georgia Tech or Oklahoma State-Oklahoma or South Carolina-Clemson. I'm glad to concede that Florida-Florida State had a great stretch, but the history isn't as rich.
Auburn has plenty to play for on Saturday, even if a CFP berth or the SEC championship isn't on the line. A win would very possibly put the Tigers into the Sugar Bowl as the SEC's second-rated team. It would make Gus Malzahn 2-2 against Nick Saban, which would be a huge talking point in this state.
And, of course, it would be a sweet chaser to the bitter pill of Alabama's success, whatever that might be. Alabama fans now are looking at this team's place among the greatest of all time. That's not true if there is a loss to Auburn on the ledger.
So it means something to Auburn, and it should mean something to Alabama. When Nick Saban took the Alabama job and said that UA had a rival that it would work 365 days a year to dominate, he didn't mean that to include "with the occasional Thanksgiving weekend off."
I'm thankful that this state has two such fine programs, that one side or another has been in thick of national championship talk every year since 2008. And, as always, I'm thankful that you care enough about Alabama – and Auburn – to read about it in this column. So enjoy the game, and thanks.
TideSports.com - Alabama-Auburn has meaning, thankfully
I can see Alabama struggling offensively given that we lack much of an effective medium to longer passing game. LSU showed errbody what to do so... the trouble I'm having is seeing Auburn put together more than 1.5 good drives. with the QB trouble they have had off and on this year, I think they're due for a punch in the mouth, and Bama's defense is just the bunch to do it.
*** I look for multiple INTs in this contest. more from aub QBs than Jalen.
*** I look for multiple INTs in this contest. more from aub QBs than Jalen.
planomateo
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So Trent is nursing a quad injury?
My opinion, if Pettway plays he won't be anywhere near 100%. That injury two weeks ago against Georgia looked bad.
bama alum
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I didn't know that about Trent.
Pettway will have more of a decoy role than anything else. If Foster lays on solid hit on Pettway, he may be done with any idea of a bowl game .
planomateo
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My bad, I was suggesting is Trent simulating Kamryn (who's nursing an injury).
Alabama17Tide
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Steele engineers big turnaround on defense
Bryan Matthews | Senior Editor
AUBURN | The turnaround started last season but Kevin Steele has taken it to another level.
Auburn is ranked seventh in the nation in scoring defense allowing 14.3 points per game and 18th in total defense giving up 334.5 yards per game.
The Tigers haven’t put up numbers like that since 2008 and its Steele, Auburn’s first-year defensive coordinator, that’s been a key part of the improvement.
“Our impact players have stayed healthy,” said Auburn coach Gus Malzahn of the turnaround. “We had a lot of carryover from last year. The bowl game last year we played our best game defensively so we had a lot of momentum.
“Coach Steele and his staff have really done a good job with our guys and we've got some guys that kind of took that next step. They're playing very aggressive and having fun playing defense.”
Steele has Auburn playing its best defense in nearly a decade.
Wade Rackley/Auburn athletics
The improvement started last season under defensive coordinator Will Muschamp. In the final five games, the Tigers gave up 339.0 yards per game, more than 100 yards less than they allowed over the first eight.
Auburn held a Memphis offense that was averaging 42.7 points and 510.4 yards per game to just 205 yards in a 31-10 Birmingham Bowl win.
Muschamp accepted the head coaching position at South Carolina, prompting Malzahn to hire Steele away from LSU, promote Travis Williams to linebacker coach and bring in secondary coach Wesley McGriff from the NFL.
This season, Auburn is second nationally in red zone defense (.667) and leads the nation with 65 pass breakups. Auburn hasn’t allowed a rushing touchdown in eight straight games, which hasn’t been done in a single season since 1957.
Fully healthy for the first time since his freshman season in 2013, Carl Lawson is tied for third in the SEC with 9.0 sacks and seventh with 12.5 tackles-for-loss. Josh Holsey is second in the SEC with 13 passes defended.
“They've improved greatly since last season,” Malzahn said. “When we went into this season, we felt like this had a chance to be one of our better defenses, at least since I've been here. Each week it seems like they've gotten better.
“They're stopping the run very well. We're not giving up a lot of explosive plays in the pass or run game and our red zone defense has been excellent. We haven't given up a rushing touchdown in a while. I think that's a sign of a great defense, and they're playing with a lot of confidence now too.”
AuburnSports.com - Steele engineers big turnaround on defense
Bryan Matthews | Senior Editor
AUBURN | The turnaround started last season but Kevin Steele has taken it to another level.
Auburn is ranked seventh in the nation in scoring defense allowing 14.3 points per game and 18th in total defense giving up 334.5 yards per game.
The Tigers haven’t put up numbers like that since 2008 and its Steele, Auburn’s first-year defensive coordinator, that’s been a key part of the improvement.
“Our impact players have stayed healthy,” said Auburn coach Gus Malzahn of the turnaround. “We had a lot of carryover from last year. The bowl game last year we played our best game defensively so we had a lot of momentum.
“Coach Steele and his staff have really done a good job with our guys and we've got some guys that kind of took that next step. They're playing very aggressive and having fun playing defense.”
Steele has Auburn playing its best defense in nearly a decade.
Wade Rackley/Auburn athletics
The improvement started last season under defensive coordinator Will Muschamp. In the final five games, the Tigers gave up 339.0 yards per game, more than 100 yards less than they allowed over the first eight.
Auburn held a Memphis offense that was averaging 42.7 points and 510.4 yards per game to just 205 yards in a 31-10 Birmingham Bowl win.
Muschamp accepted the head coaching position at South Carolina, prompting Malzahn to hire Steele away from LSU, promote Travis Williams to linebacker coach and bring in secondary coach Wesley McGriff from the NFL.
This season, Auburn is second nationally in red zone defense (.667) and leads the nation with 65 pass breakups. Auburn hasn’t allowed a rushing touchdown in eight straight games, which hasn’t been done in a single season since 1957.
Fully healthy for the first time since his freshman season in 2013, Carl Lawson is tied for third in the SEC with 9.0 sacks and seventh with 12.5 tackles-for-loss. Josh Holsey is second in the SEC with 13 passes defended.
“They've improved greatly since last season,” Malzahn said. “When we went into this season, we felt like this had a chance to be one of our better defenses, at least since I've been here. Each week it seems like they've gotten better.
“They're stopping the run very well. We're not giving up a lot of explosive plays in the pass or run game and our red zone defense has been excellent. We haven't given up a rushing touchdown in a while. I think that's a sign of a great defense, and they're playing with a lot of confidence now too.”
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