🏈 PRE-GAME THREAD: It's AuBarn Week..
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18.5 points is about as likely to cover as the odds a war eagle flies into a goal post.
Oh, wait.....
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I just saw it at 20 points. It in our news thread area, that I saw this spread.
In this year's game it's about how banged they are going into Saturday.
"...nothing serious..." - CNS post game presser
They made the decision last week he wasn't going to play.
The line opened at -18.5 and within 30 minutes had jumped to 20!
Barn is a walking wounded bunch coming into this week. I have read mumblings that neither White nor Pettway will play until their bowl game. With a bad throwing shoulder that obviously didn't look good with 2 weeks rest, seriously doubt we see White. Pettway looked like he was a sniper casualty against Vandy with either a pulled or torn Quad. I just don't see it being ANYWHERE NEAR 100% this weekend.
Barn is a walking wounded bunch coming into this week. I have read mumblings that neither White nor Pettway will play until their bowl game. With a bad throwing shoulder that obviously didn't look good with 2 weeks rest, seriously doubt we see White. Pettway looked like he was a sniper casualty against Vandy with either a pulled or torn Quad. I just don't see it being ANYWHERE NEAR 100% this weekend.
One of the few Auburn folks I know and one of the very, very few I trust with Auburn stories tells me that CP won't be playing this weekend and it's looking doubtful he plays in the bowl game as well. He also said White had a torn labrum (though didn't know if it was a tear or just a strain.) I can't recall which shoulder. Do you?
As far as Bama's three Kirven is the most banged up, Foster aggravated his injury, and Cam just needs a couple of days to recoup.
Saban has done one of his "motivational" moves in prep for Auburn that has the team "super-pissed." My gut instinct this morning is this one is going to be a Bama win by 20+
Do you mean KP won't be playing?
I've watched them, they good enough to give us problems. But do believe we still win, after they have to run side line to side line the first few plays. and chase Jalen around the dam will break.
This is my feeling as of now. I think we do have a chance to pull away late if our defense is on point.
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Alabama took last Monday off, but you know they're going to be on the practice field today. Auburn preparation began this afternoon. We were only permitted to watch one period of practice today.
Ben Jones
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- ArDarius Stewart practiced, as expected. Saban said he should be fine to play in this game.
- Cam Robinson and Korren Kirven were both at practice and participating in individual position drills. Saban said they weren't going to be at practice today but would be fine for Saturday, so having them there can only be a good thing.
- Also a good sign: Brandon Greene was working with the TEs instead of as an emergency tackle.
- Reuben Foster's hand was still heavily wrapped and he didn't have use of his fingers but it looked like he had less protection for his injured finger than he did last week.
- Bo Scarbrough practiced, as expected. Saban said he could have played Saturday and should be fine for this week.
Ben Jones
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CNS Monday press conference
Opening statement
"No new comments really from this last game. We obviously didn't maybe play consistently at the level that we'd hoped to or wanted to. I think at this point, the focus needs to be on learning from that experience in terms of how we can get better and also to move forward and look forward to the challenge that we have ahead of us, which is really the legacy of the season relative to what we can accomplish and what we can do and the meaning of this game that we play against our rivalry in this state in the Iron Bowl certainly is a lot to look forward to a lot to prepare for, a lot to get ready for.
"That's where our focus needs to be. I think this is one of the greatest rivalry games in the country. I know it means a lot to a lot of people in this state as well as nationally and the competitors in the game probably enjoy this kind of competition, this kind of rivalry as much as any game that they play.
"It's Senior Day on Saturday for us. We have 23 seniors who have done a fantastic job here. 48-5 record is pretty admirable. We're looking forward to being able to honor them in their last home game at Bryant-Denny Stadium.
"Auburn is an outstanding team. Gus has done a really, really good job there since he's been there, but especially this year and how this team has developed and improved throughout the season. They've made adjustments throughout the year relative to issues that they've had on their team, whether it be injuries or whatever. They've been able to score a lot of points, run the ball very effectively. They've been able to make explosive plays in the passing game. Their defense has been probably as good as any defense that we've played against all year long. They're very good up front. They've got good pass rushers. They create negative plays. They play good in the back end. They're very well coached. Kevin's done a really good job with them. I think Carl Lawson and Montravius Adams are especially a handful up front.
"I think they do what they do on offense, regardless of who plays quarterback, and they've been able to do that pretty effectively all year long relative to how they've been able to run the ball on people and make explosive plays in the passing game. They've got probably one of the best placekickers in the country in Daniel Carlson. It's just a very, very good team."
What have you seen from each of the 3 quarterbacks Auburn has played this year?
"They're all a little bit different, but all very effective in terms of their style and how they play. Sean White probably was the most effective guy throwing the ball consistently to go with their running game but also pulled the ball on some quarterback runs and made plays and was very efficient and effective. The other two guys are very athletic and very capable of running at any time, scrambling at any time, making plays with their feet at any time. Running the quarterback runs that they have in their offense, as well as making plays passing. I don't see a whole lot of difference in the guys. I don't like to compare people but we all think that we all respect each and every one and their abilities to make plays at their position."
Injury update on Cam Robinson and Korren Kirven?
"I think those guys are better than expected. I don't know that they'll be able to practice today but hopefully we'll have everybody back to practice tomorrow."
Auburn running the ball a ton, and having success doing it...
"They do run the ball but they run it because they're very good at running it and they're very effective running it. They also have threats outside and because they run it, I think it makes it very difficult to defend some of the shot passes that they take relative to their play-action game and their ability to make explosive plays in the passing game. One of the keys really is how do you stop the run but not do it at the expense of giving up explosive plays in the back end?"
What's the overall health of guys like Bo and Damien and how are they progressing?
"Damien's fine. There's nothing wrong with him. He played in the last game. Bo should be back this week. Bo could have played in the last game. We made a decision. I talked to Bo before the game. He practiced, he wanted to play. I said 'We're going to use you in the game if we need you,' which to me meant that if one of the other guys got hurt and we needed another runner in the game, we would have played him. He should be fine this week and able to practice a little bit more and maybe get himself a little more game-ready."
How would you assess the state of the offensive line at this point in the season?
"I think the offensive line, I said Thursday night on my radio show, if I had to say what was the most improved part of our team, that was it. But I don't think that we played especially well in this past game and I certainly think that we'll have to play a lot better in this game against the quality of people that we're playing against to be effective."
It's been a month since an opponent has scored a touchdown against your defense. What's enabling them to keep people out?
"I think the guys have played well together. They have a good competitive spirit. They've prepared pretty well. I think they have a lot of pride. But this is going to be the most challenging group that we've faced, probably, in terms of the multiples of things that they do and how we need to adjust and how people need to be responsible and doing their job. That'll be a real key to it. It doesn’t really matter what we've done in the last three weeks. It matters what we do the next week and that's really what we're focused on here."
With the mystery they have at quarterback and running back, does that change what you might get on Saturday?
"We really have to prepare for what they do. They do a good job of utilizing the personnel that they have. We're preparing as if those guys will play because we respect all the players that they have at that position. All those guys have been productive for them all year long. I think they're all good players and they're going to be a challenge for us to be able to defend against us."
What's ArDarius Stewart's status for Saturday?
"He's fine if he does what he's supposed to do. He'll be fine this game."
Auburn has a couple good edge rushers. Could you talk about their strength on the defensive line?
"I think this is probably the best front that we've played against. I tried to allude to that in my opening comments. This may be the best defense we've played against all year. This is one of Auburn's better defenses -- not to make comparisons -- that we've played against since we've been here. I think it starts with the up front guys because they're very dominant up front. They're really in all areas on their team and they play very well. They don't make a lot of mistakes and they're coached very well. They have a lot of ability and it's going to be a real challenge for us to control their front people."
You've reiterated a couple times that there's a lot to learn from the Chattanooga game. Is it a good thing to have that strong teaching moment?
"I can't really assess that. I think that you've got to kind of play the cards that you're dealt. We said we'd like to create momentum in the game and confidence but I think if you're a good competitor and you're not pleased with the way you played, you should respond and react to that. So how to balance all that and know what's better or worse, I really don't know. I know that as a coach we want to do everything we can to help our players play better. None of them want to go out there and not play well, and it's our responsibility to try to get them to play well. If they don't, it's our responsibility to help them do that. If they didn't, it's our responsibility that they didn't. I'm certainly not pointing a finger at any players. I think that we just didn't play our best, to the standard that we'd like to play to. We need to get that corrected."
Ben Jones
TideSports.com Editor
Opening statement
"No new comments really from this last game. We obviously didn't maybe play consistently at the level that we'd hoped to or wanted to. I think at this point, the focus needs to be on learning from that experience in terms of how we can get better and also to move forward and look forward to the challenge that we have ahead of us, which is really the legacy of the season relative to what we can accomplish and what we can do and the meaning of this game that we play against our rivalry in this state in the Iron Bowl certainly is a lot to look forward to a lot to prepare for, a lot to get ready for.
"That's where our focus needs to be. I think this is one of the greatest rivalry games in the country. I know it means a lot to a lot of people in this state as well as nationally and the competitors in the game probably enjoy this kind of competition, this kind of rivalry as much as any game that they play.
"It's Senior Day on Saturday for us. We have 23 seniors who have done a fantastic job here. 48-5 record is pretty admirable. We're looking forward to being able to honor them in their last home game at Bryant-Denny Stadium.
"Auburn is an outstanding team. Gus has done a really, really good job there since he's been there, but especially this year and how this team has developed and improved throughout the season. They've made adjustments throughout the year relative to issues that they've had on their team, whether it be injuries or whatever. They've been able to score a lot of points, run the ball very effectively. They've been able to make explosive plays in the passing game. Their defense has been probably as good as any defense that we've played against all year long. They're very good up front. They've got good pass rushers. They create negative plays. They play good in the back end. They're very well coached. Kevin's done a really good job with them. I think Carl Lawson and Montravius Adams are especially a handful up front.
"I think they do what they do on offense, regardless of who plays quarterback, and they've been able to do that pretty effectively all year long relative to how they've been able to run the ball on people and make explosive plays in the passing game. They've got probably one of the best placekickers in the country in Daniel Carlson. It's just a very, very good team."
What have you seen from each of the 3 quarterbacks Auburn has played this year?
"They're all a little bit different, but all very effective in terms of their style and how they play. Sean White probably was the most effective guy throwing the ball consistently to go with their running game but also pulled the ball on some quarterback runs and made plays and was very efficient and effective. The other two guys are very athletic and very capable of running at any time, scrambling at any time, making plays with their feet at any time. Running the quarterback runs that they have in their offense, as well as making plays passing. I don't see a whole lot of difference in the guys. I don't like to compare people but we all think that we all respect each and every one and their abilities to make plays at their position."
Injury update on Cam Robinson and Korren Kirven?
"I think those guys are better than expected. I don't know that they'll be able to practice today but hopefully we'll have everybody back to practice tomorrow."
Auburn running the ball a ton, and having success doing it...
"They do run the ball but they run it because they're very good at running it and they're very effective running it. They also have threats outside and because they run it, I think it makes it very difficult to defend some of the shot passes that they take relative to their play-action game and their ability to make explosive plays in the passing game. One of the keys really is how do you stop the run but not do it at the expense of giving up explosive plays in the back end?"
What's the overall health of guys like Bo and Damien and how are they progressing?
"Damien's fine. There's nothing wrong with him. He played in the last game. Bo should be back this week. Bo could have played in the last game. We made a decision. I talked to Bo before the game. He practiced, he wanted to play. I said 'We're going to use you in the game if we need you,' which to me meant that if one of the other guys got hurt and we needed another runner in the game, we would have played him. He should be fine this week and able to practice a little bit more and maybe get himself a little more game-ready."
How would you assess the state of the offensive line at this point in the season?
"I think the offensive line, I said Thursday night on my radio show, if I had to say what was the most improved part of our team, that was it. But I don't think that we played especially well in this past game and I certainly think that we'll have to play a lot better in this game against the quality of people that we're playing against to be effective."
It's been a month since an opponent has scored a touchdown against your defense. What's enabling them to keep people out?
"I think the guys have played well together. They have a good competitive spirit. They've prepared pretty well. I think they have a lot of pride. But this is going to be the most challenging group that we've faced, probably, in terms of the multiples of things that they do and how we need to adjust and how people need to be responsible and doing their job. That'll be a real key to it. It doesn’t really matter what we've done in the last three weeks. It matters what we do the next week and that's really what we're focused on here."
With the mystery they have at quarterback and running back, does that change what you might get on Saturday?
"We really have to prepare for what they do. They do a good job of utilizing the personnel that they have. We're preparing as if those guys will play because we respect all the players that they have at that position. All those guys have been productive for them all year long. I think they're all good players and they're going to be a challenge for us to be able to defend against us."
What's ArDarius Stewart's status for Saturday?
"He's fine if he does what he's supposed to do. He'll be fine this game."
Auburn has a couple good edge rushers. Could you talk about their strength on the defensive line?
"I think this is probably the best front that we've played against. I tried to allude to that in my opening comments. This may be the best defense we've played against all year. This is one of Auburn's better defenses -- not to make comparisons -- that we've played against since we've been here. I think it starts with the up front guys because they're very dominant up front. They're really in all areas on their team and they play very well. They don't make a lot of mistakes and they're coached very well. They have a lot of ability and it's going to be a real challenge for us to control their front people."
You've reiterated a couple times that there's a lot to learn from the Chattanooga game. Is it a good thing to have that strong teaching moment?
"I can't really assess that. I think that you've got to kind of play the cards that you're dealt. We said we'd like to create momentum in the game and confidence but I think if you're a good competitor and you're not pleased with the way you played, you should respond and react to that. So how to balance all that and know what's better or worse, I really don't know. I know that as a coach we want to do everything we can to help our players play better. None of them want to go out there and not play well, and it's our responsibility to try to get them to play well. If they don't, it's our responsibility to help them do that. If they didn't, it's our responsibility that they didn't. I'm certainly not pointing a finger at any players. I think that we just didn't play our best, to the standard that we'd like to play to. We need to get that corrected."
Ben Jones
TideSports.com Editor
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Visitors expected for Bama vs awbarn (partial list)
Najee Harris, five-star running back from Antioch High School in California (Alabama commitment)
Alex Leatherwood, five-star offensive tackle from Washington High School in Pensacola, Florida (Alabama commitment)
Shaun Wade, five-star cornerback from Trinity Christian in Jacksonville, Florida (Ohio State commitment)
Isaiah Wilson, five-star offensive tackle from Poly Prep in Brooklyn, New York
Elliot Baker, five-star offensive tackle from City College of San Francisco in California (Alabama commitment)
Isaiah Buggs, five-star defensive tackle from Mississippi Gulf Coast Community College in Parkinston
JaCoby Stevens, Rivals100 safety from Oakland High School in Murfreesboro, Tennessee (LSU commitment)
Aubrey Solomon, Rivals100 defensive tackle from Lee County High School in Leesburg, Georgia
Tariq Castro-Fields, four-star safety from Riverdale Baptist in Upper Marlboro, Maryland
Najee Harris, five-star running back from Antioch High School in California (Alabama commitment)
Alex Leatherwood, five-star offensive tackle from Washington High School in Pensacola, Florida (Alabama commitment)
Shaun Wade, five-star cornerback from Trinity Christian in Jacksonville, Florida (Ohio State commitment)
Isaiah Wilson, five-star offensive tackle from Poly Prep in Brooklyn, New York
Elliot Baker, five-star offensive tackle from City College of San Francisco in California (Alabama commitment)
Isaiah Buggs, five-star defensive tackle from Mississippi Gulf Coast Community College in Parkinston
JaCoby Stevens, Rivals100 safety from Oakland High School in Murfreesboro, Tennessee (LSU commitment)
Aubrey Solomon, Rivals100 defensive tackle from Lee County High School in Leesburg, Georgia
Tariq Castro-Fields, four-star safety from Riverdale Baptist in Upper Marlboro, Maryland
I don't think so. If Hurts is inconsistent or misses reads, like he is prone to do, Bama becomes one dimensional fast. But I do agree with @EasyTider that we could (probably will) pull away late.
In a manner where we'll see a lot of people questioning Kiffin's play calls.
The one thing that gets me every year is how forgetful I am. Football started in 1983, ok. Let's remember that going into the weekend.
And on that note, here's good ol' Phil on this weekends game.
And on that note, here's good ol' Phil on this weekends game.
If you pay attention to history, it’s reasonable to expect Saturday’s Iron Bowl at Bryant-Denny Stadium to be a close game and to believe Auburn has a chance to win.
Since 1983, Auburn has gone into the Iron Bowl with eight wins or more 17 times. Its record in those games is 13-4. All have been close.
The most lopsided outcome was in 2014, when Alabama won 55-44. Auburn had a 12-point lead in the third quarter and broke offensive records for an opponent at Bryant-Denny Stadium. The other three losses were 21-14 in 1994, 25-23 in 1985 and 17-15 in 1984. Auburn could have/should have won all three.
Here is the list:
2014 Alabama 55-44
2013 Auburn 34-28
2010 Auburn 28-27
2006 Auburn 22-15
2005 Auburn 28-18
2004 Auburn 21-13
2000 Auburn 9-0
1997 Auburn 18-17
1994 Alabama 21-14
1993 Auburn 22-14
1989 Auburn 30-20
1988 Auburn 15-10
1987 Auburn 10-0
1986 Auburn 21-17
1985 Alabama 25-23
1984 Alabama 17-15
1983 Auburn 23-20
Since 1983, Auburn has gone into the Iron Bowl with eight wins or more 17 times. Its record in those games is 13-4. All have been close.
The most lopsided outcome was in 2014, when Alabama won 55-44. Auburn had a 12-point lead in the third quarter and broke offensive records for an opponent at Bryant-Denny Stadium. The other three losses were 21-14 in 1994, 25-23 in 1985 and 17-15 in 1984. Auburn could have/should have won all three.
Here is the list:
2014 Alabama 55-44
2013 Auburn 34-28
2010 Auburn 28-27
2006 Auburn 22-15
2005 Auburn 28-18
2004 Auburn 21-13
2000 Auburn 9-0
1997 Auburn 18-17
1994 Alabama 21-14
1993 Auburn 22-14
1989 Auburn 30-20
1988 Auburn 15-10
1987 Auburn 10-0
1986 Auburn 21-17
1985 Alabama 25-23
1984 Alabama 17-15
1983 Auburn 23-20
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