🏈 Per @chris_hummer only 25% of P5 transfers have landed at other P5 schools as of today

 

[rocknthefreeworld]

If a kid goes from third string at Bama to starter at WhatsAMatta U, they may feel they are better off.

 

[alabamajack]

To add to what rocknthefreeworld said, in my opinion, if you are transferring outside the power 5, you probably aren't all that good and have a slim chance at making the NFL. If I'm one of those players, I get my butt in gear with my studies and graduate from a major university. In my opinion, if you are an Alabama football player, even one that never plays, if you get your degree, you will probably find it easy to go into the career you specialized in.

 

[OldPlayer]

To add to what rocknthefreeworld said, in my opinion, if you are transferring outside the power 5, you probably aren't all that good and have a slim chance at making the NFL. If I'm one of those players, I get my butt in gear with my studies and graduate from a major university. In my opinion, if you are an Alabama football player, even one that never plays, if you get your degree, you will probably find it easy to go into the career you specialized in.

Sports, in general, prepares people for life. There are many skills and processes you learn via sports that can be applied to life and business after your sports life is over. Just as in business, there are some programs that are run more professionally than others. I know from my athletic career there were many things I learned that I could apply to my personal life and professional career. We all know that Saban constantly focuses on full development for his players - athletic, personal and professional. If you were a parent with a rising senior athlete (football), where would you want your child to go to get the most out of the next 4-5 years, Alabama with Saban or Central Florida with Malzahn?

 

[rammerjammer]

To add to what rocknthefreeworld said, in my opinion, if you are transferring outside the power 5, you probably aren't all that good and have a slim chance at making the NFL. If I'm one of those players, I get my butt in gear with my studies and graduate from a major university. In my opinion, if you are an Alabama football player, even one that never plays, if you get your degree, you will probably find it easy to go into the career you specialized in.

You hit the nail on the proverbial head. Before Saban got here and started us back to our championship ways. I remember the 17 year drought of no national championships. There are reps that I know in the medical industry that were tackling dummies on the scout team back in the 90's. I can remember those guys wearing their 92 Championship rings during Auburn week. You wouldn't know these guys from Adam's house cat, but they have rings. Having the ring/degree from UA got them in the field and all of the ones I know, do very well for themselves financially.

 

[Tidestalker]

Sports, in general, prepares people for life. There are many skills and processes you learn via sports that can be applied to life and business after your sports life is over. Just as in business, there are some programs that are run more professionally than others. I know from my athletic career there were many things I learned that I could apply to my personal life and professional career. We all know that Saban constantly focuses on full development for his players - athletic, personal and professional. If you were a parent with a rising senior athlete (football), where would you want your child to go to get the most out of the next 4-5 years, Alabama with Saban or Central Florida with Malzahn?

More than 1 way to skin a cat! For some, not playing and getting the championship level experience is more valuable.

To others, the motivation to actually get on the field and stay on the field makes them better people.

Most people that play sports are highly motivated by playing time. There are others who are fine with their scout roles and are capable of learning lessons and being motivated without the potential of playing in games. Ultimately, sports offers a whole lot of ways to learn and grow both on and off the field... And just as importantly, with GOOD and BAD coaches. I've actually probably learned more from my bad coaches than my good coaches, because learning what not to do is also very valuable. Regardless, it's about making the most of your experience... No matter the "level".

 

[JoseyWalesTheOutlaw]

No, you can't always get what you want
You can't always get what you want
You can't always get what you want
But if you try sometime you find
You get what you need

 

[50+yeartidefan]

Playing Sports ....and serving in the military....
Are 2 areas that one learns from Most in life
Discipline.....team work...sacrifice....
Applies to most every aspect as you work throughthe trials and tribulations of life and its rewards and heart breaks

 

[BamaFan334]

More than 1 way to skin a cat! For some, not playing and getting the championship level experience is more valuable.

To others, the motivation to actually get on the field and stay on the field makes them better people.

Most people that play sports are highly motivated by playing time. There are others who are fine with their scout roles and are capable of learning lessons and being motivated without the potential of playing in games. Ultimately, sports offers a whole lot of ways to learn and grow both on and off the field... And just as importantly, with GOOD and BAD coaches. I've actually probably learned more from my bad coaches than my good coaches, because learning what not to do is also very valuable. Regardless, it's about making the most of your experience... No matter the "level".

Guys playing for the team are the ones winning the Natty. Team Me ain't winning it all. Society is more selfish than ever and the dollar/social media has killed any sort of "genuine society". Alabama has the best players every year, but if we have too many I's and not enough We's, we don't win. No secret the truth behind what Saban and McCarron have both said on the matter.

 

[Tidestalker]

Guys playing for the team are the ones winning the Natty. Team Me ain't winning it all. Society is more selfish than ever and the dollar/social media has killed any sort of "genuine society". Alabama has the best players every year, but if we have too many I's and not enough We's, we don't win. No secret the truth behind what Saban and McCarron have both said on the matter.

"Guys playing for their team are the ones winning the Natty".

And the guys that aren't playing?

Some people value actual playing more than just winning. TBH - Depending on the person, it can be more valuable for their long term development on and off the field. Just depends on the individual wants, needs, and their own process.

And on a serious note, of course I know how valuable guys that aren't playing are. Doesn't mean I look down on other guys who prioritize getting on the field and using the talents they work hard to try and master.

 

[BamaFan334]

"Guys playing for their team are the ones winning the Natty".

And the guys that aren't playing?

Some people value actual playing more than just winning. TBH - Depending on the person, it can be more valuable for their long term development on and off the field. Just depends on the individual wants, needs, and their own process.

And on a serious note, of course I know how valuable guys that aren't playing are. Doesn't mean I look down on other guys who prioritize getting on the field and using the talents they work hard to try and master.

The guys that aren't playing are probably just as important as the guys that are. If you go up against a bunch of pathetic scrubs giving 50% in practice, how could you ever be ready to play a top notch team on Saturday? Alabama breeds competition and the 2's,3's, and 4's are pushing the 1's the be even better.

And the guys playing for their team comment was intended to mean that guys that aren't all about me me me. As I said, Saban and McCarron made these exact comments years ago proving the point. Straight from one of the most accomplished quarterbacks in Alabama history and the best coach ever.

And who values playing time over winning? Do they not go hand in hand? Why the hell are you even playing if it's not to win? Trust me, I get guys sitting on the bench want to play and think they can do well, but how many of those are willing to sacrifice the team's success to get on the field and fail? Competition is only there to decide a winner and a loser. I understand not every guy is going to make it to the NFL, and they know that, and that's not necessarily the goal of some either. Playing time can definitely help develop as you stated, but if you only care about yourself, you don't ever really make it too far in sports. Even LeBron James learned as good as he was he couldn't do it all by himself, so he started creating superteams with his move to Miami and now in Los Angeles. Kobe and Jordan pushed their teammates to higher levels to create a Championship environment.

 

[JoseyWalesTheOutlaw]

JMO but I believe Nick is about to face the biggest challenges he has faced at Bama. The fact that he has been able (to this point) keep most all of these top talented players buying into the team 1st itself is amazing. Now he gets the NIL and one and done (on to another school if they don't start) to deal with. The NCAA isn't going to do shit as far as cheating (proven by basketball players and coaches) so you can bet this NIL thing is going to get wild. SMU was just ahead of the rest.

 

[Tidestalker]

The guys that aren't playing are probably just as important as the guys that are. If you go up against a bunch of pathetic scrubs giving 50% in practice, how could you ever be ready to play a top notch team on Saturday? Alabama breeds competition and the 2's,3's, and 4's are pushing the 1's the be even better.

And the guys playing for their team comment was intended to mean that guys that aren't all about me me me. As I said, Saban and McCarron made these exact comments years ago proving the point. Straight from one of the most accomplished quarterbacks in Alabama history and the best coach ever.

And who values playing time over winning? Do they not go hand in hand? Why the hell are you even playing if it's not to win? Trust me, I get guys sitting on the bench want to play and think they can do well, but how many of those are willing to sacrifice the team's success to get on the field and fail? Competition is only there to decide a winner and a loser. I understand not every guy is going to make it to the NFL, and they know that, and that's not necessarily the goal of some either. Playing time can definitely help develop as you stated, but if you only care about yourself, you don't ever really make it too far in sports. Even LeBron James learned as good as he was he couldn't do it all by himself, so he started creating superteams with his move to Miami and now in Los Angeles. Kobe and Jordan pushed their teammates to higher levels to create a Championship environment.

For every Saban Championship team, there are other teams who get a whole lot out of themselves, maybe even reach their potential, that don't win Championships. Does the fact that they didn't win a title mean that they got less growth, memories, challenges, etc. out of their experience? All of those things aren't necessarily measured by W's... It's that challenge of getting the most out of yourself (and from the team) that is universal in sports.

I look at a kid like Jarez Parks... Who was obviously willing to "sacrifice for his team". Talented kid, came in and just couldn't get on the field because there are other guys who are better. Is he selfish for wanting to go somewhere that he can use skills, develop in games, and make actual game memories that he never could at UA? Even if it means he's going to lose more games than he would at Alabama? I don't believe so. There will be others on the new team who are also making the same sacrifices as those at Alabama... Just not as talented. He will share experiences with those players as well.

I think it's short sighted to assume that because he choses to be a 1 somewhere else and not push the starters to be better here, he's a different person with different character. Everyone has their own idea of what they want to get out of their college experience... What has made Alabama so special, is that CNS has been able to sell super talented guys on buying into a role/vision/greater good (with the help of a lot of a great fan base/financial support/university structure) for a consistent amount of time that has set him apart. But IMO these things are also happening all around the country, even if it doesn't end in championships.

 

[BamaFan334]

For every Saban Championship team, there are other teams who get a whole lot out of themselves, maybe even reach their potential, that don't win Championships. Does the fact that they didn't win a title mean that they got less growth, memories, challenges, etc. out of their experience? All of those things aren't necessarily measured by W's... It's that challenge of getting the most out of yourself (and from the team) that is universal in sports.

I think we could all probably point to some players that weren't doing it for the team and therefor not accomplishing their max potential, which causes the team not to capture theirs. There is zero doubt in my mind that Alabama each year has the most talented team in the country and should never not win a National Championship when maximizing their potential. It's not an easy task for coaches to reach every single kid every single year, therefor you have shortfalls. Coach always says, if one guy isn't doing what they are supposed to it makes the entire unit susceptible. Not placing any blame here as it was just the situation due to injury, but look at our defense two years ago when guys were missing calls and not doing their job, what it costed us. This goes right into your comment about growth and all of that and of course it helped us big time as those guys that stepped into the fire were there for us last year to help us win that National Championship. I find it of no coincidence that Coach Saban and even us fans notice his National Championship teams are actual teams and play for one another. The bond can be seen from outside of the locker room, so think about what it's like inside.

I look at a kid like Jarez Parks... Who was obviously willing to "sacrifice for his team". Talented kid, came in and just couldn't get on the field because there are other guys who are better. Is he selfish for wanting to go somewhere that he can use skills, develop in games, and make actual game memories that he never could at UA? Even if it means he's going to lose more games than he would at Alabama? I don't believe so. There will be others on the new team who are also making the same sacrifices as those at Alabama... Just not as talented. He will share experiences with those players as well.

I'm not as concerned with a guy like him because he put in his time at Alabama and he gave himself up in the beginning, so I do not see any selfishness in what he did for this program. Guys leaving just complaining about playing time is where I get rubbed wrong. You made a decision, now you should honor it. The NCAA has now allowed immaturity to run this sport and look at the transfer portal. We have 18 years olds dying for this country in war, yet an 18 year old football player is coddled and viewed as a child with opening up the rule book to make them happy at any cost while also potentially ruining their career. This is where our country is. I want to know more about the Keilan Robinson situation. This is potentially a situation I'm talking about. He didn't give up anything for this team it doesn't appear, he opts out, gets a ring, and now he's transferring out. I want to know more, but assuming it's along the lines of what I don't approve of in college athletics.

I think it's short sighted to assume that because he choses to be a 1 somewhere else and not push the starters to be better here, he's a different person with different character. Everyone has their own idea of what they want to get out of their college experience... What has made Alabama so special, is that CNS has been able to sell super talented guys on buying into a role/vision/greater good (with the help of a lot of a great fan base/financial support/university structure) for a consistent amount of time that has set him apart. But IMO these things are also happening all around the country, even if it doesn't end in championships.

It's not short sighted to want a guy to honor his commitment. We want universities to honor the player scholarship, but we don't want them to honor their school? Najee Harris wasn't "good enough" either for two years to be the main man. He almost let his frustration win out and transferred, but luckily whomever or whatever kept him in Tuscaloosa. Now look at him. First round pick with millions in the bank, and is happy he never left. That's a different situation as he was the #1 recruit in the country, but more than anything you would think he would have a reason more than anyone since he could in fact have started anywhere else. I have zero problems with a graduate transfer immediately moving, and I don't even mind a guy leaving if a coach pulls out of town after you've signed. I just don't agree with free reign coming and going as you please. What about the guys they will be stepping in front of when transferring? What happens to that guy's experience?